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Post by soonerjbd on Oct 27, 2017 17:48:37 GMT
I am looking to start a thread discussing the fastest nations for conquests in various years. Now, this does not mean easiest. Conquests are a different prospect when you have maxed out tech and generals and are looking to maximize speed.
1939 I just did my first Conquest with 1939 France, completing it in 27 turns, which matches my record with the Soviets. I could have probably shaved several turns off of that by focusing more resources earlier in the East. I conquered Africa and Europe in less than 20 turns. I think I can beat my record with the Soviets as well, but I am curious whether the French will ultimately be faster. You can conquer Africa with no generals relatively quickly. If you jump on offense quickly, you can take out the Germans before they conquer most of your European allies. Spain falls quickly. If you are fast, Russia also really helps push Germany from the Eastern Front and will take Romania. The fact that you have a solid presence in Africa, Europe and Southeast Asia seems to be a huge advantage. I’m still open to the idea that the Soviets can be the fastest for 1939, but I think the French will give them a run for their money. Britain is similarly situated, but France has a better base of operations in Africa and doesn’t have to move troops across the English Channel, which slows things down. Anyone have other thoughts on potentially fastest nations for 1939 conquests?
1943 Soviets seem the obvious choice here, but I am curious to test out the U.S. as a wildcard. You don’t have to spend a lot of resources defending early on, and it is much quicker in this game to move forces across oceans.
1950 I think NATO countries will be faster simply because the time spent invading North America slows down the Soviets quite a bit. France is an interesting choice here again because it has territory near all of the key areas. Britain as well. I expect the U.S. could also be completed quickly, but the oceans obviously slow invasion speed.
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Post by Max Otto von Stierlitz on Oct 28, 2017 11:03:33 GMT
I haven't played conquests yet (don't have time for that and also I have much to do with scenarios, by now I have only Timoshenko and 14 scenarios left to clear to unlock cwe), but as I looked at USSR and France 39, USSR looks better: it has better access to Japan, worse to Africa, but there are quite many airports, so that don't have to be a big problem. USSR has 3 good gens while France only 2 and a bit worse and also USSR has more and better other gens. In addition to that USSR has better income. Sure, that's hard to say without trying to play, but I think USSR is worth to investigate.
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Post by soonerjbd on Oct 28, 2017 15:09:30 GMT
I haven't played conquests yet (don't have time for that and also I have much to do with scenarios, by now I have only Timoshenko and 14 scenarios left to clear to unlock cwe), but as I looked at USSR and France 39, USSR looks better: it has better access to Japan, worse to Africa, but there are quite many airports, so that don't have to be a big problem. USSR has 3 good gens while France only 2 and a bit worse and also USSR has more and better other gens. In addition to that USSR has better income. Sure, that's hard to say without trying to play, but I think USSR is worth to investigate. My first instinct is that the Soviets will be easiest for all the reasons you mentioned. I characterize France as more of a dark horse. I was surprised how quickly they could take Africa and Europe. Also seems like when you are the Soviets you do all the work in Europe and have to sweep all the way to take Spain. As France, if you push quickly, the Soviets can actually help, and you don’t have to retake all their cities. I only used one land general against Japan. I’ve got a feeling I could shave some turns off by putting more resources there early.
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Post by Max Otto von Stierlitz on Oct 29, 2017 4:04:09 GMT
I haven't played conquests yet (don't have time for that and also I have much to do with scenarios, by now I have only Timoshenko and 14 scenarios left to clear to unlock cwe), but as I looked at USSR and France 39, USSR looks better: it has better access to Japan, worse to Africa, but there are quite many airports, so that don't have to be a big problem. USSR has 3 good gens while France only 2 and a bit worse and also USSR has more and better other gens. In addition to that USSR has better income. Sure, that's hard to say without trying to play, but I think USSR is worth to investigate. My first instinct is that the Soviets will be easiest for all the reasons you mentioned. I characterize France as more of a dark horse. I was surprised how quickly they could take Africa and Europe. Also seems like when you are the Soviets you do all the work in Europe and have to sweep all the way to take Spain. As France, if you push quickly, the Soviets can actually help, and you don’t have to retake all their cities. I only used one land general against Japan. I’ve got a feeling I could shave some turns off by putting more resources there early. Yes, France has quite good position. In WC3 I checked, if it is suitable for speedrun, and in 1950 it was the best for it. But now I can just guess about it, I plan to start to play conquests after some 2-3 weeks, and 8 gens (sure, not upgraded) I will have after some 2-3 months I think.
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Post by kanue on Oct 30, 2017 8:54:35 GMT
soonerjbd, you might want to try USSR in 1939. Good economy, access to both battlefronts. I took it easy with no rush and still finished it in 23 turns. With your tech and generals, you can probably steamroll Germany, paradrop Japan, and end it in less than 20 turns.
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Post by deadman on Oct 30, 2017 17:02:25 GMT
Do you still recieve the same rewards for finishing the conquest quickly?
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Post by soonerjbd on Nov 9, 2017 8:26:52 GMT
soonerjbd, you might want to try USSR in 1939. Good economy, access to both battlefronts. I took it easy with no rush and still finished it in 23 turns. With your tech and generals, you can probably steamroll Germany, paradrop Japan, and end it in less than 20 turns. I haven’t played around with the Soviets in a while. I got kinda bored for a while and haven’t been playing at all much lately. Now that Modern Warfare is out, that will change.
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Post by su on Nov 10, 2017 14:45:46 GMT
I am looking to start a thread discussing the fastest nations for conquests in various years. Now, this does not mean easiest. Conquests are a different prospect when you have maxed out tech and generals and are looking to maximize speed. 1939 I just did my first Conquest with 1939 France, completing it in 27 turns, which matches my record with the Soviets. I could have probably shaved several turns off of that by focusing more resources earlier in the East. I conquered Africa and Europe in less than 20 turns. I think I can beat my record with the Soviets as well, but I am curious whether the French will ultimately be faster. You can conquer Africa with no generals relatively quickly. If you jump on offense quickly, you can take out the Germans before they conquer most of your European allies. Spain falls quickly. If you are fast, Russia also really helps push Germany from the Eastern Front and will take Romania. The fact that you have a solid presence in Africa, Europe and Southeast Asia seems to be a huge advantage. I’m still open to the idea that the Soviets can be the fastest for 1939, but I think the French will give them a run for their money. Britain is similarly situated, but France has a better base of operations in Africa and doesn’t have to move troops across the English Channel, which slows things down. Anyone have other thoughts on potentially fastest nations for 1939 conquests? 1943 Soviets seem the obvious choice here, but I am curious to test out the U.S. as a wildcard. You don’t have to spend a lot of resources defending early on, and it is much quicker in this game to move forces across oceans. 1950 I think NATO countries will be faster simply because the time spent invading North America slows down the Soviets quite a bit. France is an interesting choice here again because it has territory near all of the key areas. Britain as well. I expect the U.S. could also be completed quickly, but the oceans obviously slow invasion speed. 1943 Germany is much faster compared to the soviets. They have a strong economy and that you don’t really need to spend any resources on Africa. I cleared it in 40 turns wherelse it took me 70+ for Soviet’s. Or am I playing soviets wrong?
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Post by soonerjbd on Nov 11, 2017 21:18:52 GMT
I think you are playing Soviets wrong. It takes a long time to invade North America and clear out China and down to Australia and Hawaii as Germany. The Soviets can be done much more quickly because you don’t need to send an army across long distances.
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Post by Singlemalt on Nov 12, 2017 12:33:55 GMT
1980 ussr is speedy.. i am often not the quickest but in my 2nd round i got it in 34 turn and i forgot south america which took me >5 turns longer
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Post by Mountbatten on Nov 13, 2017 5:09:58 GMT
1943 Japan has speed running potential. I had a 40 turn finish and I delayed my U.S invasion by about 10 turns.
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Nov 13, 2017 12:44:52 GMT
If anyone is willing to, I need suggestions for a 1* & 2* nations for 1943 conquest that is both EASY and FAST. I want to get Guderian ASAP & by doing these 2 conquests, the achievements gained will top up the remaining medals which I lack.
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Post by stoic on Nov 13, 2017 13:15:47 GMT
If anyone is willing to, I need suggestions for a 1* & 2* nations for 1943 conquest that is both EASY and FAST. I want to get Guderian ASAP & by doing these 2 conquests, the achievements gained will top up the remaining medals which I lack. Imo, USSR is an easy and fast one. 2* , however, is a difficult one to choose... european-war-4.boards.net/thread/7389/countries-easy-complete-1939-1943?page=2
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Nov 13, 2017 16:07:20 GMT
Thanks stoic. Also, great minds do think alike. I too saw potential in playing as ROC. Hopefully I can finish these 2 quickly. I desparately need to balance out my underdeveloped tank tech with a good gen.
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