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Post by Laurent de Gouvion St. Cyr on Jan 15, 2018 23:05:44 GMT
Papa_Stalin.... @joshuameme is wrong. A transition to socialist politics was IMO most possible in early 20th Century USA, with powerful labor unions and socialist parties like the IWW,AFL, and SLP. Remember, President McKinley was killed by an anarchist only a decade ago. Both William Jennings Bryan and Theodore Roosevelt had anti-laissez faire leanings. The Socialist Party of America and the SLP had quite a lot of votes in the 1912 election, almost 100,000 between both of them. America was most likely of all nations to have a revolution (or reform beyond recognition) IMO, even May Day (International Labor Day) was based on the Haymarket Affair, an American strike. The way I see it, Wilson could appoint someone from the AFL (which was close to the radical wing of the Democrats) as a cabinet secretary, and have him influence the government. Appoint socialists to important positions until a coup happens. Or you could do an alternate history of the 1912 Lawrence Textile Strike. It was crushed and some immigrant laborers were arrested there, and you could make the trial a backdrop for a revolution. Propaganda to side with the laborers, constant strikes, constant appeals up to SCOTUS. Regardless, a conviction happens and that may ignite revolution. Though if you strike the latter route, it would not be vanguardism/M-L, but anarcho-syndicalism. The former would more likely get a USSR-esque state, though still unlikely given the zeitgeist. Another thing, a small revolution is fine. Even if that fails, the brutality used when suppressing that could be the cause of another revolution.
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Post by Papa_Stalin on Jan 15, 2018 23:07:52 GMT
Papa_Stalin .... @joshuameme is wrong. A transition to socialist politics was IMO most possible in early 20th Century USA, with powerful labor unions and socialist parties like the IWW,AFL, and SLP. Remember, President McKinley was killed by an anarchist only a decade ago. Both William Jennings Bryan and Theodore Roosevelt had anti-laissez faire leanings. The Socialist Party of America and the SLP had quite a lot of votes in the 1912 election, almost 100,000 between both of them. America was most likely of all nations to have a revolution (or reform beyond recognition) IMO, even May Day (International Labor Day) was based on the Haymarket Affair, an American strike. The way I see it, Wilson could appoint someone from the AFL (which was close to the radical wing of the Democrats) as a cabinet secretary, and have him influence the government. Appoint socialists to important positions until a coup happens. Or you could do an alternate history of the 1912 Lawrence Textile Strike. It was crushed and some immigrant laborers were arrested there, and you could make the trial a backdrop for a revolution. Propaganda to side with the laborers, constant strikes, constant appeals up to SCOTUS. Regardless, a conviction happens and that may ignite revolution. Though if you strike the latter route, it would not be vanguardism/M-L, but anarcho-syndicalism. The former would more likely get a USSR-esque state, though still unlikely given the zeitgeist. Another thing, a small revolution is fine. Even if that fails, the brutality used when suppressing that could be the cause of another revolution. Ah, thank you for clearing that up Laurent de Gouvion St. Cyr. I wish I hadn't removed my post...
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Post by Laurent de Gouvion St. Cyr on Jan 15, 2018 23:19:54 GMT
NOTE: I'm not saying the majority of Americans were Socialist. It's just that the labor movement atm was in its zenith, and a logical turn of events can easily turn part of the country against the other.
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Post by Tadamichi Kuribayashi on Jan 16, 2018 2:51:52 GMT
Bloody dang it, I had focused my political turn around the events concerning the United States
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Post by Papa_Stalin on Jan 16, 2018 22:36:16 GMT
'Kay, gonna have to type up the turn again....
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Post by Tadamichi Kuribayashi on Jan 17, 2018 0:28:12 GMT
Darn it, I had also erased everything. Urgh, I will get it posted as soon as possible.
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Post by Desophaeus on Jan 18, 2018 1:05:51 GMT
Let you know that I am working on something important in RL all day today, ALL DAY. I apologize, best75. I should be available for tomorrow.
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Post by Laurent de Gouvion St. Cyr on Jan 20, 2018 2:16:28 GMT
Posted the ordinary format plus some short add-ins. I will be away for about two weeks. Hopefully this RP would pick up then.
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Post by best75 on Jan 20, 2018 21:17:22 GMT
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Post by JapaneseGamer5USA on Jan 21, 2018 1:39:52 GMT
my turn will be done tonight
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Post by Papa_Stalin on Jan 24, 2018 1:09:16 GMT
To say the RP is quiet is an understatement.
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Post by Tadamichi Kuribayashi on Jan 24, 2018 1:49:58 GMT
I can still do this, just give me time.
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Post by best75 on Jan 24, 2018 7:13:09 GMT
I assume people are losing interest in this. I will wait a week more but if there's still not much response than its probably best I end this.
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Post by Papa_Stalin on Jan 25, 2018 0:10:56 GMT
I assume people are losing interest in this. I will wait a week more but if there's still not much response than its probably best I end this. A sensible compromise. I don't know about anyone really coming back other than a small handful.
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Post by best75 on Jan 25, 2018 7:16:51 GMT
I haven't seen several players. With players missing I think Its needlessly getting prolonged now. I plan to lock this tomorrow now.
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