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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Aug 27, 2018 11:36:23 GMT
It was written long time ago. So maybe recently some other strategies were recommended. But what I know now. Lots of people use Leeb till the endgame. So getting him is a good investment. Agreed^^. Of course, if you don't think you can make the jump to Guderian or Konev on your own after buying Leeb, you can always fall back on the Messe-Leeb combo. Trust me when I say this: You CAN make the jump to Leeb on your own without gens. I did this in my 2nd & current run of WC4. I made it to challenge IV, V and even VI for some of the Challenges in Domination without any gens, you can too! Lastly, if you clear 1939 conquest with A rank, you get 500 medals as an achievement. Thus, it's not impossible to directly make the leap to Leeb from 0 gens. |
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Post by czak on Oct 19, 2018 1:02:58 GMT
Is two naval generals a good idea?
I've got Nimitz; but kinda leery about upgrading his skills; added Depot & Air leader
Earned enough & want to get Donitz
But that's a lot of potential upgrades for Guderian, Konev n Rommel
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Post by TK421 on Oct 19, 2018 1:15:57 GMT
I think that's more opinionative. Two naval generals is nice but not needed, from what I gather (and from experience, as well). A good amount of recommended generals have naval capabilities, and, in conquest, naval generals aren't the best as most important battle occur on land.
Again, though, it your choice. It's a nice quality of life thing. However, keep note of Donitz's price tag. He costs an awful lot for naval stuff. Plus, Yamamoto (The best naval general) is only about 100 medals off. Upgrades are nice, as well, but that's also something you need to figure out. How often would you have succeeded if just one or two skills had been slightly upgraded? Or if your generals had more health?
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Oct 19, 2018 1:53:59 GMT
Is two naval generals a good idea? I've got Nimitz; but kinda leery about upgrading his skills; added Depot & Air leader Earned enough & want to get Donitz But that's a lot of potential upgrades for Guderian, Konev n Rommel I used Nimitz and Kuznetsov. I don’t recommend donitz as he is just too expensive. For kuznetsov you can just raise his rumor to lvl 3 and leave the rest up to him. The guy is very hard to kill even with lvl 1 rumor on a double stacked cruiser during the 1950 conquest. |
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Post by czak on Oct 19, 2018 4:18:47 GMT
I liked getting the Quest generals as an achievement for the game
Donitz is significantly more expensive than Nimitz
But he comes so well pre-stacked with good skills I'm wondering if over all he's better worth the cost
I bought Depot for him more to not waste the Medal than as a desired skill. Naval units have such significant health, 6hp a turn is pretty moot
I added Air leader thinking I'd mostly use him on carriers, but seems cruisers are more useful vs cities & coastal forts.
With Donitz, I could add Rumor & ..? and be ahead of Nimitz
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Post by daemon on Oct 19, 2018 4:58:36 GMT
I liked getting the Quest generals as an achievement for the game Donitz is significantly more expensive than Nimitz But he comes so well pre-stacked with good skills I'm wondering if over all he's better worth the cost I bought Depot for him more to not waste the Medal than as a desired skill. Naval units have such significant health, 6hp a turn is pretty moot I added Air leader thinking I'd mostly use him on carriers, but seems cruisers are more useful vs cities & coastal forts. With Donitz, I could add Rumor & ..? and be ahead of Nimitz just give Donitz with rumor is more than enough , he is an MVP in rommel 20% discount as support artillery . The last skill could be explosive (to crack Athens as Turkey 1980 faster ) or crowd tactics (tbh does crowd stack , to further his role as support artillery) ? But i would not recommend to invest in fifth skill because the medal should be spend on something else . Yeah Donitz > Nimitz |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Oct 19, 2018 13:39:51 GMT
I liked getting the Quest generals as an achievement for the game Donitz is significantly more expensive than Nimitz But he comes so well pre-stacked with good skills I'm wondering if over all he's better worth the cost I bought Depot for him more to not waste the Medal than as a desired skill. Naval units have such significant health, 6hp a turn is pretty moot I added Air leader thinking I'd mostly use him on carriers, but seems cruisers are more useful vs cities & coastal forts. With Donitz, I could add Rumor & ..? and be ahead of Nimitz Imo, the only two skills you need for navy are fleet leader and rumor. Also, nimitz comes with lvl 3 ace forces which you can stick a medal on. Sure donitz is slightly better, but he costs 1400 medals more, which is enough to buy Kuznetsov or Halsey. But I would shove cover as the 5th skill. That way Donitz can endure massive amounts of damage before dying. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Oct 19, 2018 13:41:11 GMT
I liked getting the Quest generals as an achievement for the game Donitz is significantly more expensive than Nimitz But he comes so well pre-stacked with good skills I'm wondering if over all he's better worth the cost I bought Depot for him more to not waste the Medal than as a desired skill. Naval units have such significant health, 6hp a turn is pretty moot I added Air leader thinking I'd mostly use him on carriers, but seems cruisers are more useful vs cities & coastal forts. With Donitz, I could add Rumor & ..? and be ahead of Nimitz Imo, the only two skills you need for navy are fleet leader and rumor. Also, nimitz comes with lvl 3 ace forces which you can stick a medal on. Sure donitz is slightly better, but he costs 1400 medals more, which is enough to buy Kuznetsov or Halsey. But I would shove cover as the 5th skill. That way Donitz can endure massive amounts of damage before dying. The thing is, if you shove rumor and cover on nimitz, he would be no less effective than donitz, hence why he isn’t worth the cost. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Oct 19, 2018 13:44:44 GMT
I liked getting the Quest generals as an achievement for the game Donitz is significantly more expensive than Nimitz But he comes so well pre-stacked with good skills I'm wondering if over all he's better worth the cost I bought Depot for him more to not waste the Medal than as a desired skill. Naval units have such significant health, 6hp a turn is pretty moot I added Air leader thinking I'd mostly use him on carriers, but seems cruisers are more useful vs cities & coastal forts. With Donitz, I could add Rumor & ..? and be ahead of Nimitz just give Donitz with rumor is more than enough , he is an MVP in rommel 20% discount as support artillery . The last skill could be explosive (to crack Athens as Turkey 1980 faster ) or crowd tactics (tbh does crowd stack , to further his role as support artillery) ? But i would not recommend to invest in fifth skill because the medal should be spend on something else . Yeah Donitz > Nimitz If you think about it, who would really win in a battle. Kuznetsov or Donitz. Donitz would probably win, but with only a fourth of his health remaining, if not losing to Kuznetsov, as kuznetsov has a very good skill set for 1000 medals. |
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Post by daemon on Oct 19, 2018 14:49:07 GMT
just give Donitz with rumor is more than enough , he is an MVP in rommel 20% discount as support artillery . The last skill could be explosive (to crack Athens as Turkey 1980 faster ) or crowd tactics (tbh does crowd stack , to further his role as support artillery) ? But i would not recommend to invest in fifth skill because the medal should be spend on something else . Yeah Donitz > Nimitz If you think about it, who would really win in a battle. Kuznetsov or Donitz. Donitz would probably win, but with only a fourth of his health remaining, if not losing to Kuznetsov, as kuznetsov has a very good skill set for 1000 medals. I agree Kuzetsov is a good early naval generals like messe but he lacking capacity to be invested therefore reach his maximum capacity early . Therefore , we need an end game naval generals which i prefer Donitz for the fact wolfpack can buff ship to deal more damage in invasion for example 12 medals type naval invasion . I would prefer Donitz because of his potential to be a support artillery that have high mobility to move with tanks . Nimitz on the other hand is just a good naval general with lower cost but he cannot do any land combat role except on air and we can only fit limited generals on mission. Kuzentov like i stated reach max potential ways too early and invest more in him would be a little bit wasteful |
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Post by daemon on Oct 19, 2018 14:53:39 GMT
Btw , can someone check what should i do now ( stuck at UN hard mission and Panama canal exercise)
My current generals list
-Guderian (with lv 4 rumor and lv 5 plain )
-Konev (lv4 rumor and lv 3 crowd )
-Dowdling ( no upgrade , do a good job in cracking Athens as Turkey 1980 and air role)
Rommel (lv 2 panzer leader and lv 2 Blitzkrieg )
Donitz (lv 4 rumor )
Nimitz (lv 1 rumor )
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Oct 19, 2018 19:44:51 GMT
If you think about it, who would really win in a battle. Kuznetsov or Donitz. Donitz would probably win, but with only a fourth of his health remaining, if not losing to Kuznetsov, as kuznetsov has a very good skill set for 1000 medals. I agree Kuzetsov is a good early naval generals like messe but he lacking capacity to be invested therefore reach his maximum capacity early . Therefore , we need an end game naval generals which i prefer Donitz for the fact wolfpack can buff ship to deal more damage in invasion for example 12 medals type naval invasion . I would prefer Donitz because of his potential to be a support artillery that have high mobility to move with tanks . Nimitz on the other hand is just a good naval general with lower cost but he cannot do any land combat role except on air and we can only fit limited generals on mission. Kuzentov like i stated reach max potential ways too early and invest more in him would be a little bit wasteful If you like donitz on artillery, all power to you. I would say that kutznetsov is an end game general as well as he is very strong. I don’t see how Donitz can be a good artillery general where Nimitz can’t. They would both have pretty much the same skill set. |
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Post by czak on Oct 21, 2018 6:29:30 GMT
Imo, the only two skills you need for navy are fleet leader and rumor I added Air leader n Depot Does the Air & Fleet leader skills stack..?; on a carrier Pretty sure I know the answer is no, but... |
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Post by daemon on Oct 21, 2018 7:01:23 GMT
I added Air leader n Depot Does the Air & Fleet leader skills stack..?; on a carrier Pretty sure I know the answer is no, but... Air leader will activate on carrier when carrier make air strike while fleet leader will activate when it counter attack |
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Post by biskup1997 on Nov 12, 2018 2:21:45 GMT
Something that might interest some newer people like me. So i got Guderian, Rommel, Konev, Yamamoto and Rundsted. Honestly i think Runsted is useless general. I ussualy use him on arty or tanks. No metter how good my infantry is it is more or less useless against all types of enemys. Anyway my question is when do you have enough generals ? And when do you need to save your medals for upgrading the ones you got instead of saving them for buying some other generals ?
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