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Post by Iron Duke on Dec 5, 2017 14:07:21 GMT
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Post by dain on Dec 5, 2017 19:50:41 GMT
After general with Leadership attacks, the attack of an enemy unit that he dealt demege is lowered to 50% for a time.
The higher the level of skill, the higher the probability and duration. On level 1 there is 15% chance of occurrence and the duration is 1 turn. On level 10 is 100% occurence and duration is 2 turns.
The Spy skill is similar, it just lowers enemy defense.
For every general, the first skill (leftmost) must be "charged" to trigger (notice the rainbow progress bar around the general icon - when it's flashing, you can "run" the skill). The skill is charged by dealing damage to enemies.
Second and third skills of general are static and need not be charged. For example, when Nobunaga has Leadership level 10, every unit he attacks (and during enemy's turn any unit that Nobunaga attacks back) will have its attack lowered by 50%
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Post by Iron Duke on Dec 6, 2017 13:57:49 GMT
Thanks dain, this is useful info.
It seems then that when faced with a tough enemy it may be a good idea to hit them with Nobby first then all pile in and attack them while they can't hit back so hard.
A follow up question, what happens if two Leadership generals attack the same enemy in the same turn?
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Dec 6, 2017 14:22:23 GMT
Thanks dain, this is useful info. It seems then that when faced with a tough enemy it may be a good idea to hit them with Nobby first then all pile in and attack them while they can't hit back so hard. A follow up question, what happens if two Leadership generals attack the same enemy in the same turn? The exact same effect does not stack. If it does, imagine if multiple gens with "Rumour" attack one of your gens & all of their attacks trigger it. That's why the same effect does not stack. |
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Post by andrei on Dec 6, 2017 14:34:40 GMT
Iron DukeAs I remember Leadership effects do stack. You can check it in the unit statistics screen. However it is not efficient. When debuffed once the enemy is already quite weak, so additional debuff from Leadership is not effective. Better to attack another target with second Leadership general.
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Post by dain on Dec 11, 2017 9:08:29 GMT
Leadership or Spy effects do not stack (on itself - you can of course use both Leadership and Spy on an enemy unit).
The 50% decrease is always taken from the original value of attack/defense. They also do not stack with decreases due to low morale. But they do stack with decreases due to low health (don't know for sure, the border is approximately 40% and 20% of unit's full health).
However, commander effects do stack. Every bonus is calculated from previous value (which may include previous bonuses). For example, if you have general with 1000 attack and two other generals with max level commander (50% bonus) the final attack will be 2250 (1000 + 500 + 750).
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Post by Iron Duke on Dec 11, 2017 14:34:10 GMT
Leadership or Spy effects do not stack (on itself - you can of course use both Leadership and Spy on an enemy unit). The 50% decrease is always taken from the original value of attack/defense. They also do not stack with decreases due to low morale. But they do stack with decreases due to low health (don't know for sure, the border is approximately 40% and 20% of unit's full health). However, commander effects do stack. Every bonus is calculated from previous value (which may include previous bonuses). For example, if you have general with 1000 attack and two other generals with max level commander (50% bonus) the final attack will be 2250 (1000 + 500 + 750). Wow! So if I can get two Archer Commanders I can have Nobunaga firing at 225% for 3 rounds? Do the Commander skills work on the Commanders themselves too? |
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Post by dain on Dec 11, 2017 14:45:02 GMT
Yes and yes  And Nobunaga's Sniper Master skill also count, when maxed out it will be another 150 %, for nice total 337,5 %  |
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Post by Iron Duke on Dec 15, 2017 12:16:18 GMT
I'm guessing that when you attack someone and the blue sword appears over them that that's the leadership being activated, and likewise the blue shield and spy?
If so what does the red sword signify?
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Post by dain on Dec 15, 2017 12:28:22 GMT
Hmm, don't remember red sword. Could you post a picture?
Blue sword/shield on enemy means they suffer from Leadership/Spy. The "sad blue eagle" is morale down, "sadder blue eagle" double morale down, and whirling cloud is rumor.
Maybe you mean flashing crossed swords? This is infantry commander activated, but is golden/yellow, not red.
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Post by Iron Duke on Dec 15, 2017 13:14:26 GMT
Hmm, don't remember red sword. Could you post a picture? Blue sword/shield on enemy means they suffer from Leadership/Spy. The "sad blue eagle" is morale down, "sadder blue eagle" double morale down, and whirling cloud is rumor. Maybe you mean flashing crossed swords? This is infantry commander activated, but is golden/yellow, not red. No it's definitely not inf. commander, and it's definitely red, but possibly not a sword. I'll have to try some experimenting over the next few days to a) get it to appear again, and b) figure out how to do screenshots on my phone I thought it might be double leadership? |
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Post by dain on Dec 15, 2017 13:56:42 GMT
Well, in fact, the moment leadership is "inflicted", there is animation of a red broken sword, but after that there is only a small blue hovering sword symbol. Do you mean that?
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Post by Iron Duke on Dec 15, 2017 14:04:36 GMT
Well, in fact, the moment leadership is "inflicted", there is animation of a red broken sword, but after that there is only a small blue hovering sword symbol. Do you mean that? Er, quite possibly!  |
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Post by Iron Duke on Dec 17, 2017 13:00:36 GMT
Well, in fact, the moment leadership is "inflicted", there is animation of a red broken sword, but after that there is only a small blue hovering sword symbol. Do you mean that? Yeah, it is just that. In my defence, it caught my eye when it appeared on someone already under the leadership spell, so to speak. So, if it doesn't stack then I guess it just means it can be re-inflicted without waiting for the effect to wear off. |
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