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Post by purtylee on Mar 3, 2018 23:59:44 GMT
I have the following Generals:    Contemplating my next move. I could start EC number 2....tank 1 or Arty 2 I could sell Patton to have more medals for EC tank....and buy Vatutin. Patton irritates me when his health is below 50 percent, he becomes a cream puff. I could buy Vatutin I could buy Kovev or Bai for another Arty, but having Zhukov, Konev is probably the same. |
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Post by purtylee on Mar 4, 2018 0:04:26 GMT
I was contemplating Goring, but Eisenhower and Goring have the same skills with Eisenhower's skill level a bit higher.
Then there is Yamamoto.....
So make 2nd EC?
Sell Patton for more medals for second EC?
2nd EC go Arty 2 or tank?
Pick up 1 or 2 of the following:
Goring
Yamamoto
Konev
Bai
Vatutin
Rommel
Or pick up none???
Which direction is best?
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Post by Max Otto von Stierlitz on Mar 4, 2018 9:39:44 GMT
Goring or Yama is not worth - cheaper and more effective is to add air/navy stars for your EC.
Selling Patton for Vatutin - that's not bad idea as you don't need Patton if you have ECs with explosives and against units Vatutin is better.
Buying other academy gens is not worth before you have 3 maxed ECs + lv28 ion.
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Post by purtylee on Mar 4, 2018 12:57:49 GMT
Max, should I start the tank EC next, or my second Arty EC.
Also I am tempted to make all 3 EC artillery. Is that a bad choice?
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Post by Tito on Mar 4, 2018 13:29:11 GMT
The best combination in my eyes is 2 arty and a tank
A tank, as said in the name, tanks dammage and deals, it can even deal a lot when on a city as double attack and you won't usually get 3+ artilleries in campaign and until you build one that is a few rounds wasted in which you could have dealt dammage.
Arty is mostly useful in the Alien missions and tanks die quickly there but in lower conquest tanks are far better as if you hit it you retaliate, and you can make the enemy not retaliate with Blitzkrieg on some accasions. Artillery (RA) is a huge dammage dealer but doesn't retaliate
Basically, go for 1 tank 2 arty ecs
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Post by purtylee on Mar 4, 2018 14:24:38 GMT
Thank you very much for the help, I really appreciate it.
I have the first EC as Arty. Should I make the second one Arty or start the tank?
Or sell Patton, pick up Vatutin and start EC tank?
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Post by Tito on Mar 4, 2018 17:08:04 GMT
Get some Air stars on one EC and add Tank/Arty stars and then skills. I am not sure about the Patton-Vatutin thing. I have always prefered Patton, so it is more of an Emotional Glue that is sticking between me and him and have never done the math much. I have used Vatutin very rarely throughout my WC3 days, always used the Tripartate of Guderian Rommel and Patton. I'd let someone else come here and say something about it, but in my eyes Eissenhower on one front and the EC with air stars on the other so you have strong air coverage on two fronts with very strong generals to be combated as well, but it is still a thing of the situation. Max Otto von Stierlitz, your call on here, mi amigo |
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Post by purtylee on Mar 4, 2018 18:36:04 GMT
I went supply street/fighting on the first Arty EC. Should I got supply/Ace forces on the 2nd?
I agree on Eisenhowers as tank/ Air.
I believe he is the best air General in game.
Followed by Goring. I had Goring but dismissed him to use medals for my EC Arty 1.
Eisenhower's and Gorings skills are almost identical with the advantage to Eisenhower.
I use the following set up.
Tank 1 Guderian
Tank 2 Patton
Arty 1 EC
Arty 2 Manstein
Arty 3 GOVOROV
Then I bring in Eisenhower as Air General
Patton as secondary air General as needed.
I find it's hard to have your Air General at one end of the game or the other. Really need two.
Zhukov not being used as much.
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Mar 4, 2018 20:20:13 GMT
Well... at this stage you can do whatever you feel good with. The lineup itself currently is good enough. Since you made an arty EC you can put Manstein(who conflicts with Patton by ability) on tank. Ike can play as a tank, but if you want another one, Rommel, Vatutin all have their pros and cons.
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Post by purtylee on Mar 4, 2018 21:17:10 GMT
Thank you Erich...I appreciate the help very much.
And I enjoy studying your many helpful inputs to help us all. Very nice work.
I'm trying to think over what's the smartest move to make the squad better.
I run Guderian on tank 1
Patton Tank 2
I start my EC Arty as Arty 1
Manstein as Arty 2
Govorov as Arty
Then once established I place Eisenhower in a tank to a nice city with air and blast away.
Zhukov doesnt get much play except missions.
It appears Eisenhower has the same skills as Goring but higher so probably don't need Goring....though I find it would be nice to have two generals who can do Air, since the Air general can only be in one place. Yamamoto is a thought as well, but probably don't need.
I am thinking of whether to start the next EC. And whether to start second Arty or Tank next.
Eventually I may buy Yamamoto, Goring,Konev, Bai, Rommel, Vatutin, Montgomery. Just for the fun of playing and to be able to run multiple missions at the same time. Probably dont need any of them.....would be just for fun.
Monty just for the fun of a air general with survivability highest in game and Marshall.
At this point its all just thoughts in my mind and wondering what plan is best.
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Post by purtylee on Mar 4, 2018 21:25:36 GMT
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Post by Tito on Mar 5, 2018 17:17:41 GMT
Don't go for Goring, Yamamoto maybe.
You don't need him as you will have 5 air stars on your ECs so they can multitask basically, save you a general slot and have a higher output. Take this as an example on how effective it would be. Let's say The EC in the pic with city bonus, he is in Changchun on FA, Japs go at him , he deals dammage to them and deals heavy dammage with Fighter aircraft and that is only one general slot to be used! You then could use the Tank Gen with 5 air stars as well when he is resting on a city to gain health , or if you take over a city with an airfield, it will be pretty effective for air attacks if he is there. Goring cannot deal much dammage him alone, and his health is not needed , your commanders mostly get hit by frontline units , not airplanes, so you can easily rest on a city with like 25% and bombard and you will be mostly safe if it is not a nuke era conquest or campaign. There is a slight chance of a bombardment so that is why I put up Anti-Air Artillery on a city on which this Gen is.
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Post by purtylee on Mar 5, 2018 20:55:42 GMT
1:should I make the next EC Arty or Tank?
2: basically you are saying if I have 5 stars air on a EC, it is taking care of two generals in one.
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Post by purtylee on Mar 5, 2018 20:58:35 GMT
If I understand correctly, you are saying its better to use my tank/air general ( Eisenhower) as main air general and put air stars on EC to utilize as needed.
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Post by Tito on Mar 7, 2018 13:28:35 GMT
I am saying you can save up a general slot if you had Air Stars on your ECs with maxed skills and stars on their specific unit. Eissenhower can be used as a Frontline and Backline commander, aka he can deal a lot of dammage by the unit itself but can deal air strike dammage and get money to your nation as well with his Econ skills. Basically, having a specific air general is a waste as you can take the opportunity of having a general whom you can use double and upgrade him, example Patton, is a good tank commander but when he is defending a city or capturing it and wanting ensure to keep it , he can deal great dammage to units
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