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Post by CountVonNumenor on Mar 23, 2018 15:47:25 GMT
Lord of Middle Earth
I think this is the name I will go with for the project in European War 4. Come and check the already created nation units and models, they will help you a lot. But still, I think there are some problems that I think you can solve, because I need your help:
- except for a few nations' superheavy cavalry (Mumakil, trolls of Gundabad, Misty Mountains, Isengard, Olag-Hai, dwarven and rhunic chariots), I was not able to find and create some units to use for replacing the originals
- I think you should use this image for the background of the game menu
- and maybe the theme music should be changed. One of my suggestion would the the Uruk-Hai theme from Lord of the Rings
- I need a map or at least a list of the settlements from European War 4, in order to think how should we rename them, if possible (it would be more interesting to have the names from Middle Earth)
- also, if possible, I'd like you to add some new towns, and I will work for some custom settlements look, such as Paris, London, Moskau etc, (I think I can create some textures to resemble such places as Erebor, Rivendell, Minas Tirith, Minas Morgul, Barad-Dur and so on...)
This thread will be set as a conclusion before anyone start doing this mod, so we need to create the difinite idea. Shoid I also upload the unit textures done until now here?
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Post by Aleksandr Vasilevsky on Mar 23, 2018 19:45:10 GMT
Lord of Middle EarthI think this is the name I will go with for the project in European War 4. Come and check the already created nation units and models, they will help you a lot. But still, I think there are some problems that I think you can solve, because I need your help: - except for a few nations' superheavy cavalry (Mumakil, trolls of Gundabad, Misty Mountains, Isengard, Olag-Hai, dwarven and rhunic chariots), I was not able to find and create some units to use for replacing the originals - I think you should use this image for the background of the game menu - and maybe the theme music should be changed. One of my suggestion would the the Uruk-Hai theme from Lord of the Rings - I need a map or at least a list of the settlements from European War 4, in order to think how should we rename them, if possible (it would be more interesting to have the names from Middle Earth) - also, if possible, I'd like you to add some new towns, and I will work for some custom settlements look, such as Paris, London, Moskau etc, (I think I can create some textures to resemble such places as Erebor, Rivendell, Minas Tirith, Minas Morgul, Barad-Dur and so on...) This thread will be set as a conclusion before anyone start doing this mod, so we need to create the difinite idea. Shoid I also upload the unit textures done until now here? Yes, please upload the unit textures here. It would be slightly easier for me to..."get/view" them. As for the nation's super heavy cavalry, some nations you cannot find and create...Do you have an idea for them or not? Or is it just that you know what they are to be, but you can't find the textures/pictures for them?
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Post by CountVonNumenor on Mar 23, 2018 20:41:50 GMT
Aleksandr Vasilevsky , about superheavy cavalry (replacing the European War 4 armoured car), I found only a few things that can can be used: - different troll types for the orc nations - Mumakil/Oliphantus for Harad (and maybe Khand) - chariots for Rhun and Dwarves (both will have different models for this king of unit) I didn't find any refference to such units for other nations of Middle Earth. Maybe if you would add some more armoured cavalry, on the kind of the Cataphracts, but I was already planning that as heavy units. Is it possible to block this kind of unit for certain nations? I had problems doing the cavalry designs, so all I could do until now was the infantry and some superheavy cav (still have to work a bit on the chariots' design). Cavalry units (light, heavy and vuard cavalry) should be inspired from their infantry counterparts, such as swordsmen, spearmen and guard/elite infantry (dwarves may have, if possible, only the superheavy cavalry - chariots - and heavy cavalry - goat riders, similar to the ones from the Extended Edition of "Battle of the Five Armies"). Also, lorewise, many nations could not bring into battle giant beasts or chariots, so thus is why this unit should be maybe blicked for certain nations. Also, I didn't find any source that would help. As all said, I will post here the models. If it would be possible to just move these posts from my original topic to this one... According to the European War 4 standatd units roaster, I was thinking about a unit convention: - militia = militia - line infantry = swordsman - light infantry = archers/crossbowmen - grenadiers = spearmen - guards = guards - machinegun = pikemen - light cavalry = light cavalry - heavy cavalry = heavy cavalry - guard cavalry = general cavalry bodyguards - armoured car = Mumakil/chariots/trolls - light artillery = ballista - heavy artillery = catapult - mortar = trebuchet - rocket launcher = locked What music should we use for the opening screen (and maybe for whole game? It should be something themed, maybe from the movies. One of my suggestions would be the Uruk-Hai theme. Last thing, is this image good for opening screen (I will post it below)? How many generals are in European War 4? There will be need to change portraits and names (we can use the vanilla game ones, but with the changes mentioned). The Uruk-Hai theme Attachments:
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Post by CountVonNumenor on Mar 23, 2018 20:50:38 GMT
I will start uploading the units. There will also be the flag of the country. I f needed, there will be two comments containing the units of each nation. Gondor: - militia - swordsman (line infantry) - archers (light infantry) - spearmen (grenadiers) - guards - pikeman (machinegun) - flag
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Post by CountVonNumenor on Mar 23, 2018 21:01:40 GMT
Arnor - militia - swordsman - archer - spearman - guard/elites - pikeman - flag Attachments:
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Post by CountVonNumenor on Mar 23, 2018 21:06:12 GMT
Dale - flag - militia - swordsman - archer - spearman - guard/elite - Dismounted Earls of Dale - pikeman - Laketown Pikeman
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Post by CountVonNumenor on Mar 23, 2018 21:11:19 GMT
Dwarves (universal look for Erebor&Iron Hills, Eried Luin and Khazad-Dum in the first version) - flag (Erebor)
- Ered Luin (Blue Mountains) Dwarves flag - Khazad-Dum flag - militia - swordsman - archer/crossbowman - spearman - guard/elite - pikeman - Vault Warden
- superheavy cavalry
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Post by CountVonNumenor on Mar 23, 2018 21:15:40 GMT
Easterlings of Rhun (aka the Golden Boys from LoTR The Two Towers) - flag - militia - swordsman - archer - spearman - guard - pikeman
- superheavy cavalry
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Post by CountVonNumenor on Mar 23, 2018 21:20:57 GMT
Angmar - flag (Gundabad) - militia - swordsman - archer - spearman - guards/elite - Whitch-Realm Hammer Guard - pikeman - Whitch-Realm Pikemen
- flag (Angmar)
- superheavy cavalry - Beast of Angmar (concept creature for Battle of the Five Armies, possibly used during the First or Second Age)
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Post by CountVonNumenor on Mar 23, 2018 21:27:57 GMT
Harad (incomplete nation) - flag - militia - swordsman - archer - spearman - guard/elites - Dismounted Serpent Guard - pikeman - superheavy cavalry - Mumakil I did not complete this nation because I was looking the the Southron look of these units depicted in Lord of the Rings trilogy. Also, Bismark Junior announced that he was already working on some textures for Hardrim units.
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Post by CountVonNumenor on Mar 23, 2018 21:33:43 GMT
Isengard - flag - militia - swordsman - archer/crossbowman - spearman - elites - Guards of Orthanc - pikeman - superheavy cavalry
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Post by CountVonNumenor on Mar 23, 2018 21:38:35 GMT
Elves of Mirkwood - flag - militia - swordsman - archer - spearman - guard - no pikes for the Mirwood Elves, as such unit was never seen neither in the movies or book, or at least I havent found any source. But I think I can use the ones of Rivendell as a start
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Post by CountVonNumenor on Mar 23, 2018 21:43:25 GMT
Orcs of the Misty Mountains - militia - swordsman - archer - spearman - elites - pikeman - superheavy cavalry - flag
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Post by CountVonNumenor on Mar 23, 2018 21:47:09 GMT
Mordor - flag - militia - swordsman - archer - spearman - elites - pikeman - superheavy cvalry
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Post by CountVonNumenor on Mar 23, 2018 21:51:05 GMT
Rivendel / Imladris - flag - militia - swordsman - archer - spearman - elites - pikeman
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