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Post by stoic on May 29, 2018 7:04:48 GMT
Davout is the best for cav, Washington/Bolivar - inf (but I will anyway take Suvorov instead ), Kutuzov for arty. I will probably do the same (I mean to get Suvorov as an Inf general )
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Post by juljas on May 29, 2018 10:01:43 GMT
hi stoic
my take on suvorov is that he is a very potent general but i don't see the advantages of having plain (which is a superb skill) and mountain (not so good) at the same time. for me it counts as a deducted skill so he basically is a 4 * General in my Eyes. If you still like the stile of general he offers i would give the advice to look at possible 50% off lannes!
with his skills: assault (excellent) intercept (ok-good) tunnel (very good) plain (exellent) at the max ranking off King he offers an brilliant option as second or third infantry general and IMO the best price-performance in the game.
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Post by andrei on May 29, 2018 20:11:41 GMT
juljas , You don't understand! It's Suvorov! Generalissimo! Greatest field marshal ever Was thinking about generals. Here are my thoughts: In EW6 they won't make a lot of a difference in the early and even mid game. Units are extremely tanky and REALLY CHEAP at the same time. With no skills upgraded, relatively low tech and almost no possibilities for regen HP the generals (whether gold tier, purple or even blue tier) not too much differ one from another. By the end game period of course this difference will be visible, but now it is not. Just my experience with Campaign missions. I have Blucher, Suvorov and Napoleon. And in case I am using these gens the result is almost the same if I use free gens from USA Campaign. P.S.: At first I also was not happy about Suvorov's plain+mountain fighting, but actually I think there are only few really good skills for infantry, so yes, one skill is useless for Suvorov, but gives some freedom. The map is almost always full of units, so placing always on the plain to attack is not an easy task, so mountain fighting is not that bad as it seemed to be.
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Post by stoic on May 30, 2018 7:03:05 GMT
hi stoic my take on suvorov is that he is a very potent general but i don't see the advantages of having plain (which is a superb skill) and mountain (not so good) at the same time. for me it counts as a deducted skill so he basically is a 4 * General in my Eyes. If you still like the stile of general he offers i would give the advice to look at possible 50% off lannes! with his skills: assault (excellent) intercept (ok-good) tunnel (very good) plain (exellent) at the max ranking off King he offers an brilliant option as second or third infantry general and IMO the best price-performance in the game. Thank you for advice juljas , but as andrei said it is not always the optimal way we are looking for Bisides I like some bizarre (to some extent) strategic ideas, which are working in the end. For example, I completed WC4 without Guderian (the best general in the game) or EW 5 with 4 inf generals. You know, it is like a challenge inside another challenge
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Post by juljas on May 30, 2018 10:35:32 GMT
haha stoic, andrei, i like how you guys think and you are right early game I also don't notice a huge difference in weak to strong Gens. And I can see the challenging point of not having the very best and taking it as a challenge and playing to a Gens strengths. For Example In WC4 I played all the time with Mannerheim as I am fascinated by what he did (like smoke infront of Hitler to test in how bad of a situation he is) and even though he wasn't the best Inf Gen I adored him. Buuut I think objectively Suvorov is not the best Gen But If you really like him he still Is a viable Option as 2 or 3 Inf Gen.
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Post by xerexes on May 30, 2018 15:24:12 GMT
Am I the only one who buys Washington as first infantry general instead of the popular Bismarck ?
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Post by andrei on May 30, 2018 18:21:19 GMT
Am I the only one who buys Washington as first infantry general instead of the popular Bismarck ? I purchased Suvorov Washington will be the second infantry
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Post by stoic on May 31, 2018 5:23:30 GMT
No way I could buy a gold tier general in any other ET game after 2 days of playing. Sardinia thank you for all!!!
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Post by stoic on May 31, 2018 5:42:40 GMT
haha stoic , andrei , i like how you guys think and you are right early game I also don't notice a huge difference in weak to strong Gens. And I can see the challenging point of not having the very best and taking it as a challenge and playing to a Gens strengths. For Example In WC4 I played all the time with Mannerheim as I am fascinated by what he did (like smoke infront of Hitler to test in how bad of a situation he is) and even though he wasn't the best Inf Gen I adored him. Buuut I think objectively Suvorov is not the best Gen But If you really like him he still Is a viable Option as 2 or 3 Inf Gen. It is a pity, that Infantry was very weak in WC4, so that even 2 great medals didn't help. In Ew5 Inf team was very solid. From what I see now it seems to be possible to build up a team around Inf generals. It is now only a window of possibility, but I like to try a couple of Inf Commanders (in EW5 terms. Inf Master it is now, if I remember corretly). For example, Massena, Karl or Barclay. The skill is weaker than the analogues one in EW5 and probably dosn't work for a general himself, but to be honest, I haven't seen many great skills in the game so far... So maybe it is worth truying after all...
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Post by Mountbatten on May 31, 2018 6:08:39 GMT
haha stoic , andrei , i like how you guys think and you are right early game I also don't notice a huge difference in weak to strong Gens. And I can see the challenging point of not having the very best and taking it as a challenge and playing to a Gens strengths. For Example In WC4 I played all the time with Mannerheim as I am fascinated by what he did (like smoke infront of Hitler to test in how bad of a situation he is) and even though he wasn't the best Inf Gen I adored him. Buuut I think objectively Suvorov is not the best Gen But If you really like him he still Is a viable Option as 2 or 3 Inf Gen. It is a pity, that Infantry was very weak in WC4, so that even 2 great medals didn't help. In Ew5 Inf team was very solid. From what I see now it seems to be possible to build up a team around Inf generals. It is now only a window of possibility, but I like to try a couple of Inf Commanders (in EW5 terms. Inf Master it is now, if I remember corretly). For example, Massena, Karl or Barclay. The skill is weaker than the analogues one in EW5 and probably dosn't work for a general himself, but to be honest, I haven't seen many great skills in the game so far... So maybe it is worth truying after all... Infantry is now my favorite unit. Artillery has a -25% damage debuff against basically everything besides ships and cities. The only thing wrong with infantry is that they get melted like butter but hey, they are cheap and spammable.
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Post by stoic on May 31, 2018 6:12:52 GMT
It is a pity, that Infantry was very weak in WC4, so that even 2 great medals didn't help. In Ew5 Inf team was very solid. From what I see now it seems to be possible to build up a team around Inf generals. It is now only a window of possibility, but I like to try a couple of Inf Commanders (in EW5 terms. Inf Master it is now, if I remember corretly). For example, Massena, Karl or Barclay. The skill is weaker than the analogues one in EW5 and probably dosn't work for a general himself, but to be honest, I haven't seen many great skills in the game so far... So maybe it is worth truying after all... Infantry is now my favorite unit. Artillery has a -25% damage debuff against basically everything besides ships and cities. The only thing wrong with infantry is that they get melted like butter but hey, they are cheap and spammable. And exactly that makes the presense of Inf Master viable! But I think Cav and Arty will gain weight with time...
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Post by best75 on May 31, 2018 7:11:37 GMT
Infantry is now my favorite unit. Artillery has a -25% damage debuff against basically everything besides ships and cities. The only thing wrong with infantry is that they get melted like butter but hey, they are cheap and spammable. And exactly that makes the presense of Inf Master viable! But I think Cav and Arty will gain weight with time... For my take on it I still stick with mainly building lots of artillery. I even considered getting Mahmud. He's not top tier but he has artillery expert which i could put great use to when I make lots of artillery. I build some infantry to hold cities and sometimes as shields. Cavalry is really the only unit type I don't use. For their price they don't match infantry in stats and getting their 2nd attack is too unreliable. That doesn't mean cavalry generals are useless, the best cavalry unit the armored car is better in stats than the best infantry unit so cavalry gens could be more powerful in endgame than infantry gens.
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Post by xerexes on May 31, 2018 8:22:16 GMT
And exactly that makes the presense of Inf Master viable! But I think Cav and Arty will gain weight with time... For my take on it I still stick with mainly building lots of artillery. I even considered getting Mahmud. He's not top tier but he has artillery expert which i could put great use to when I make lots of artillery. I build some infantry to hold cities and sometimes as shields. Cavalry is really the only unit type I don't use. For their price they don't match infantry in stats and getting their 2nd attack is too unreliable. That doesn't mean cavalry generals are useless, the best cavalry unit the armored car is better in stats than the best infantry unit so cavalry gens could be more powerful in endgame than infantry gens. I bought an ambulance for my Davout and I would say he is my strongest general as of yet. But then again, an ambulance on Any general would make him op as well. Try buying an ambulance guys. I believed that makes me enjoy this game better!
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Post by yuanzhong on May 31, 2018 8:45:32 GMT
No way I could buy a gold tier general in any other ET game after 2 days of playing. Sardinia thank you for all!!!
So i intend to never get update until i finish farming for all my general collection. I think ET will change reward of Conquest in next update ^^!. Sadly but true, ET become greedy recently. We need to play very hard and wait long time to get enough medal and resources if not pay in recent ET games from World conqueror 3.
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Post by stoic on May 31, 2018 9:37:28 GMT
No way I could buy a gold tier general in any other ET game after 2 days of playing. Sardinia thank you for all!!!
So i intend to never get update until i finish farming for all my general collection. I think ET will change reward of Conquest in next update ^^!. Sadly but true, ET become greedy recently. We need to play very hard and wait long time to get enough medal and resources if not pay in recent ET games from World conqueror 3. For me it is Ok actually. I like to survive and win in ET games notwithstanding any hardships. I personally would be disappointed a bit if we won't struggle in such games. I completed EW5 first time in more than half a year, and it was the most exciting challenge in mobile games that I had. So it was frustrating for me that WC4 was considerably easier in this respect. It is of course not to every player's taste, but I like it as it is...
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