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Post by stoic on Jun 2, 2018 2:57:21 GMT
I'm playing quite intensely and never, never Denmark had any chance to survive (let alone defeat Sweden). I don't disband my troops, defend my city as long as needed, and for security sake take a couple of cities after that. Usually Netherlands, Denmark and Warsaw are defeated in first 20-25 turns, and that the end of the game basically.
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Post by Ralyks on Jun 2, 2018 8:12:30 GMT
Then I guess it was very bad luck, because Denmark was able to hold the south front whilst punishing Sweden on the north one, the English fleet (with some support from Naples and mine) was demolished by the French and Spanish one, who kept sending ships whilst British couldn't as they had no port. Spain crushed Portugal. France held the front and pushed back later on, and Ottomans joined when the focus of Russia and the other allied factions was on the east and he could just invade without facing barely any resistance.
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Post by stoic on Jun 2, 2018 10:13:21 GMT
Then I guess it was very bad luck, because Denmark was able to hold the south front whilst punishing Sweden on the north one, the English fleet (with some support from Naples and mine) was demolished by the French and Spanish one, who kept sending ships whilst British couldn't as they had no port. Spain crushed Portugal. France held the front and pushed back later on, and Ottomans joined when the focus of Russia and the other allied factions was on the east and he could just invade without facing barely any resistance. Spain will crush Portugal and destroy British fleet. It is ok. But there are other important things. 1. Prussia should enter the war in the first 5 turns. 2. Russia should enter the war in turns 8-9. 3. Ottoman empire on the other hand in turns 18-21 It is possible to motivate them to do so. In turn 1, for example, I send protocols to Prussia, Russia, Spain and Ottomans. In turn 2 again to Russia. Then again to Russia when I have enough resources (depends on how many French units are coming). And then a couple of times to the Turks.
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Post by Ralyks on Jun 2, 2018 20:27:23 GMT
Tried that, Ottomans joined on turn 21, on that turn, I gave all my leftover resources to Russia and clicked autoplay. To see later that on round 31, I was defeated. So I tried again, this time looking up to round ~35, and on round 29, a spanish riflemen and spanish light cavalry were arriving at my mighty Sardinia. On those 8 turns that have passed, it gathered resources to make one cavalry and it send it north, which died trying to take Marseille. So i took control when i saw those 2 coming and had enough resources for a militia. That militia holded the capital until i had resources to make a second one (2 turns), and with those 2, i could take down both invaders. After that, just autoplayed checking every now and then but i didnt need to act any time, i was safe. Sweden (and in a lesser extent, Russia and Austria) just smashed everyone (funny, as Sweden got stomped on my first attempt at this) and they took only 60 rounds to clear everything, with Seville resisting on its own for 5 turns. Congrats my allies and thanks to stoic, that his tips helped me out (I guess) making my allies finally doing the work like they should. So yes, ill expand a bit on stoic tips- Dont pay to get Portugal enter war sooner, Spain will call back some of the troops sent to support France, and these extra 2 turns, will make those troops take longer and Spain support (both in Mediterranean and in middle Europe) will be delayed by like 4 turns
- Dont delay Denmark, the sooner they join, the more enemy troops they will have nearby (else, they will move them against France and have less troops to defend when it joins)
Russia must be sped up twice (hopefully thrice, its posible), whilst Ottomans delayed as much as posible - At turn 20, you can skip it fast until 28, where you should see a small Spanish group going to your islands, remove autoplay as it tends to play it dumb with few resources (like move troops outside the city when they dont have enough money to hire another troop on it, for example)
- Speed up Naples once, so that they start producing troops faster, but dont delay Italy. If you delay Italy, many Naples ground troops will jump to the seas as they can't expand through land
- Delay Warsaw (once is enough), if you manage to get them to participate the same turn as Russians, they will do pretty much nothing, else they will harm the undefended HRE and Prussia (as they all sent their troops to the east and north)
- Speed up Prussia once, the sooner they join and support HRE, the better
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Post by stoic on Jun 3, 2018 3:11:44 GMT
Bad thing about autoplay is that you can't guarantee that some Spanish or even Ottoman troops don't arrive. Now I switch to Autoplay only after capturing Corsica or some Italian cities...
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Post by best75 on Jun 3, 2018 5:05:47 GMT
I been doing it in a similar way by disbanding all units at start. Send protocols to Prussia, Warsaw, Naples, Russia on turn 1. Send protocols to Russia 2 more times. Send gold to Naples. Send protocols to Ottomen 2 times. I done that by turn 12 and switch the game to Autoplay while I go do something else. I know it is risky to sit on Autoplay that soon but I want to get it done in as less effort as possible and don't want to babysit the game.
In general I think we have a solid plan for Sardinia 1798 Step 1 Send resources to get allies in faster Step 2 Send them money Step 3 Autoplay/Pass turns quickly Step 4 Profit
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Post by xerexes on Jun 3, 2018 5:31:44 GMT
I think if u want quick conquest, ending turn manually is faster. Took me 15-20 min. After 10th-15th turn all I did was end my Turn n fast forward.
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Post by stoic on Jun 3, 2018 8:05:31 GMT
In 1806 however the one and only goal of all French generals is to destroy our little Sardinia
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Post by andrei on Jun 3, 2018 8:12:21 GMT
In 1806 however the one and only goal of all French generals is to destroy our little Sardinia Well.. they haven't killed Sardinia in 1798. So they learned a lesson
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Post by ANoob on Jun 3, 2018 9:10:14 GMT
In my game as Sardinia, Russians steamrolled Europe with the Swedes and then the Ottomans joined. Two steamrolls at one game, nice. Can someone explain how to post pictures inside your phone?
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Jun 3, 2018 9:25:09 GMT
In my game as Sardinia, Russians steamrolled Europe with the Swedes and then the Ottomans joined. Two steamrolls at one game, nice. Can someone explain how to post pictures inside your phone? Find an online host for your pics, I use postimages.org Then upload the pics to the host (be sure not to press the rubbish bin utton). Afterwards, copy the direct link. Then in your reply box, type [ i m g ] (paste the direct link here) [ / i m g] except you don't type in a space between each character.
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Post by Singlemalt on Jun 3, 2018 12:51:31 GMT
I think I played now 5 full conquest with Sardinia and stopped 5 more off them due to annoying AI steps. So you can play indeed without building or playing at all.. but it won't be 10out of 100. just start with killing your troops and skip turns.. check now and then no1 is going to take ur city. Just spend the money to get ur allies in and ur enemies out of the war. Every time it will be different. I once managed to keep Portugal alive and without any move they finished it in 50 turns... sometimes turkey and Spain are very lucky and then it takes a while.. in the end I see myself spending most off the money to England. Sometimes you see an enemy wants to take ur city.. then just build and defend (or play but this takes time).. Its easy and it gives ur resources... fun... not really Sincerely
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Post by ANoob on Jun 3, 2018 13:53:01 GMT
125th turn and Ottoman got Istanbul back from HRE -which was reduced to Ukranian states and rhe Balkans after the Ottoman steamroll-, Italy is holding off against Sweden and HRE, i lost my capital after a failed attack against Corsica and now my only city is Corsica and Spain invaded Ireland. Also, France's northern cities got invaded by almost everyone at this point; Spain, Prussia, Russia, Sweden, United Kingdom, Italy and even France -it managed to get back northern cities two times, but lost them permamently after-. I just hope it ends at this point.
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Post by teemee123 on Jun 3, 2018 15:08:06 GMT
Here are my thoughts on who to bribe: Russia gets a morale boost really early so you have to bribe them twice early, the one time I didn't bribe Spain I lost so bribe them twice at the start, Prussia you can bribe twice but you then can't bribe Sweden. Bribing prussia twice and russia three times and ignoring sweden has been most successful for me (sweden has always beaten norway and taken european cities anyway). And i think you can bribe everyone else like once.
Other notes I have are that you should:
> build tonnes of coastal forts when you get the +250? industry event (and maybe one earlier in sardinia), > piss off spain by sending half dead militia around their coastline attacking their cities (sometimes they just let them take the cities, or waste units defending them). believe it or not, infantry do more damage against cities when they're attacking from the sea > keep militia next to french/spanish cities even if they have to wait in the water, so that when nelson's ship or other ships reduce their health to 0 you can sneak in. > not forget about military tactics (blast is good, also promotion and forced march) > if you are going to get the north island (corsica), make bribes beforehand as they will increase in cost after taking it
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Post by VizzyT on Jun 4, 2018 7:58:18 GMT
The way people do it in China right now(tried twice, works): Disband ALL your troops and spend your money to get Naples and Russia in earlier. Then just keep doing it, when Naples is in give them money until they are winning against Italy, some to Sweden/UK when they find a hard time against Denmark/Spain. And then... auto. I just tried it and it worked on the second try. I even got S rank! The first time a french unit got Cagliari, so maybe in the start, when the french navy isn't a threat anymore you might want to put a militia in there...
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