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Post by juljas on Jun 16, 2018 18:37:35 GMT
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Post by odm on Jun 16, 2018 19:55:48 GMT
Nice video as always  . I pretty much think the same, however I would rank Nelson above Bismark (My top 5 would be in order Karl, Murat, Davout, Washington, Nelson). Also I don't really like Kutuzov, but maybe that's just because we can say this: Infantry: Karl can be considered better than Wellesley Cavalry: Blucher is really, really good, Murat is sort of Blucher lite, it can compensate quite nicely Artillery: Napoleon... I'd say it's the only arty general which has only god skills (and no terrain bonus means he is equally best everywhere), while Kutuzov is much more defensive (and honestly while arty is the only ranged land unit, it is also the weakest one.. without help it dies fast) Navy: No IAP, Nelson holds the place, + no other gold general. I was thinking of a dream team made out of Karl, Washington, Massena, Murat, Davout, Kutuzov, Mahmud, Nelson. Would that be good or there are better alternatives? |
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Post by andrei on Jun 16, 2018 20:38:55 GMT
My top playwise. Infantry: Karl, Massena, Washington Cavalry: Blucher, Davout, Murat Artillery: Napoleon, Kutuzov, Mahmud II Navy: Nelson, Treville, Jervis Top 5 (no IAP): Karl, Massena, Murat, Kutuzov, Nelson P.S.: I am not going to follow it, as I hire gens I like (historical aspect)  |
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Post by best75 on Jun 17, 2018 0:58:39 GMT
I would give mention to Massena. Besides the 5% damage boost Karl has its Karl's Intercept/Ambush/Jungle fighting vs Massina's Assault/Tunnel/Motivation. I find Infantry Assault giving a flat 20+ damage is one of the best skills and because of that I would rank him higher than Karl.
On another note I think the poll was done before the aura buff skills like infantry master were discovered to buff the general unit itself. If the poll was done again I believe Massena and Karl would be ranked higher than say Washington and Bismarck.
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Post by TK421 on Jun 17, 2018 2:05:13 GMT
I would give mention to Massena. Besides the 5% damage boost Karl has its Karl's Intercept/Ambush/Jungle fighting vs Massina's Assault/Tunnel/Motivation. I find Infantry Assault giving a flat 20+ damage is one of the best skills and because of that I would rank him higher than Karl. On another note I think the poll was done before the aura bluff skills like infantry master were discovered to bluff the general unit itself. If the poll was done again I believe Massena and Karl would be ranked higher than say Washington and Bismarck. Aura bluff skills? Wow. Glad to see Easytech adding in more unique things with their recent update. Bluffing your enemy in retreating or getting lowered morale. lol |
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Post by Saltin on Jun 17, 2018 2:36:10 GMT
I fixed best75 typo, obviously "buff" was meant not "bluff", they mean entirely different things I would go pretty much the same rout as andrei in my picks, Karl,Massena, Kutoz,Nelson, Murat/Davout. |
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Post by andrei on Jun 17, 2018 5:42:21 GMT
Agree with best75 about assault and it's a pity Karl don't have it. However jungle fighting in EW6 is same good as plain fighting. When I use Karl I have no problems with placing him into the forest. I'ld say 7/10 times he fights in the forest. With mountains (sometimes I use Welligton) it is much more complicated. Why I ranked Karl higher than Massena. As mentioned earlier - higher basic stats both battle ability and defence bonus. But his skills are more focused on survivability (ambush, intercept and even jungle fighting) which imo a bit more important in EW6, as units are tanky and in the long run I prefer survivability over pure damage. |
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Post by Robert Walpole on Jun 17, 2018 9:50:49 GMT
After the new update where Easytech buffed the 3 IAP generals, I’m pretty sure they are the best in their respective units.
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Post by odm on Jun 17, 2018 12:12:47 GMT
After the new update where Easytech buffed the 3 IAP generals, I’m pretty sure they are the best in their respective units. Patch notes says that they increased their initial nobility and rank, which means nothing on long-term (just some medals and coins saved).I was saying that Wellesley is pretty mediocre actually, the other two are very good however. |
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Post by andrei on Jun 17, 2018 12:16:31 GMT
After the new update where Easytech buffed the 3 IAP generals, I’m pretty sure they are the best in their respective units. Patch notes says that they increased their initial nobility and rank, which means nothing on long-term (just some medals and coins saved).I was saying that Wellesley is pretty mediocre actually, the other two are very good however. I think they increased battle/specific ability. Ranks and titles are the same. |
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Post by odm on Jun 17, 2018 12:54:31 GMT
Patch notes says that they increased their initial nobility and rank, which means nothing on long-term (just some medals and coins saved).I was saying that Wellesley is pretty mediocre actually, the other two are very good however. I think they increased battle/specific ability. Ranks and titles are the same. What should I understand from " Initial titles for Wellesley, Blucher and Napoleon increased"? Source: european-war-4.boards.net/thread/9263/ios-version-1-06 |
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Post by juljas on Jun 17, 2018 12:55:21 GMT
oh I like how this thread is going well I have to say I was quite surprised at how strong nelson actually is in this game! odm, also I have to say that Blutcher and Napolean would be top 3 best Gens but Wellesley is quite mediocre as stated above! andrei, TK421, very interesting thoughts on Karl and Massena -> my thoughts are that 5% missing dmg and also only prince as highest rank does make a significant difference between these two gens and I think even though plain probably is a little better than forest fighting a general without terrain based damage increase is significantly weaker than one with! I mean up to 30% damage increase is insane! but otherwise massena as a supporting General is just as viable as Karl... but damage and survivable wise he's not. And yeah It could be very interesting to make a new poll to show how opinions have changed (especially with the aura buff!) one question Saltin, andrei, do you guys know if the aura buff is stackable? that means if one puts Karl and Massena next to each other do the buff the infantry around the for 40%? that would be insane and a interesting meta strategy... |
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Post by andrei on Jun 17, 2018 13:02:30 GMT
oh I like how this thread is going well I have to say I was quite surprised at how strong nelson actually is in this game! odm, also I have to say that Blutcher and Napolean would be top 3 best Gens but Wellesley is quite mediocre as stated above! andrei, TK421, very interesting thoughts on Karl and Massena -> my thoughts are that 5% missing dmg and also only prince as highest rank does make a significant difference between these two gens and I think even though plain probably is a little better than forest fighting a general without terrain based damage increase is significantly weaker than one with! I mean up to 30% damage increase is insane! but otherwise massena as a supporting General is just as viable as Karl... but damage and survivable wise he's not. And yeah It could be very interesting to make a new poll to show how opinions have changed (especially with the aura buff!) one question Saltin, andrei, do you guys know if the aura buff is stackable? that means if one puts Karl and Massena next to each other do the buff the infantry around the for 40%? that would be insane and a interesting meta strategy... It is stackable But it is points not % |
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Post by Saltin on Jun 17, 2018 13:06:33 GMT
juljas, you can actually stack 3 of them if you want, for a total of +60 attacks but it's not very practical because of positioning issues: only one general has 3 hexes aura, the others only have a range of 2 hexes. Still with 2 generals it works well.
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Post by odm on Jun 17, 2018 13:12:53 GMT
You can even go further and I can confirm that the bonuses do stack. You have 3 generals with aura-buff for each class, those are Karl, Massena and Barclay for infantry, Napoleon, Mahmud and Alexander for artillery and Blucher, Murat and Dabrowski for cavalry. And 7 navy (yes 7!) navy generals with escorting (unfortunately 3 are green with really bad max nobility , the champion here being Duckworth which can only reach Viscount... horrible) which can boost navy defense to absurd levels (I' d really want to see someone doing that). |
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