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Post by Saltin on Jun 19, 2018 7:22:34 GMT
Mountbatten, when you first start and before the full speed farming starts medals are in extremely short supply and so we have to decide how to best do this but yeah I get your point both should be possible with farming. banjo, I think you nailed it on the head. The ambulance is a strategic asset that let you get started on farming faster. Pre-patch in 1798 Sardinia a single general with regen would hold the line without having to delete units. Post-patch in Netherlands a single general with regen can defend against the coast against the British. Ambulance just jump starts the grinding of medals and resources.
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Post by stoic on Jun 19, 2018 7:58:58 GMT
Mountbatten , when you first start and before the full speed farming starts medals are in extremely short supply and so we have to decide how to best do this but yeah I get your point both should be possible with farming. banjo , I think you nailed it on the head. The ambulance is a strategic asset that let you get started on farming faster. Pre-patch in 1798 Sardinia a single general with regen would hold the line without having to delete units. Post-patch in Netherlands a single general with regen can defend against the coast against the British. Ambulance just jump starts the grinding of medals and resources. With all due respect  but I don't agree. Was/is it possible to complete a pre-patch Sardinia 1798 without any general or item? Absolutely, many of us did it. Is it possible to complete post-patch Netherlands without any general or item? Yes, with a good strategy it is no problem at all. Is it possible to complete all campaigns (available to us) and missions in the Challenge mod without an ambulance? More than possible. Therefore we can make a conclusion that ambulances are great items, but only items for our generals. What is absolutely necessary for completing this game is a team of generals working in synergy with each other. It seems that my point of view is not very popular , but it is my deep conviction that it is far more important, first of all, to understand the relative value of skills and, second, to elaborate a decent synergy of your units on the battlefield. |
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Post by andrei on Jun 19, 2018 8:41:30 GMT
Mountbatten , when you first start and before the full speed farming starts medals are in extremely short supply and so we have to decide how to best do this but yeah I get your point both should be possible with farming. banjo , I think you nailed it on the head. The ambulance is a strategic asset that let you get started on farming faster. Pre-patch in 1798 Sardinia a single general with regen would hold the line without having to delete units. Post-patch in Netherlands a single general with regen can defend against the coast against the British. Ambulance just jump starts the grinding of medals and resources. With all due respect but I don't agree. Was/is it possible to complete a pre-patch Sardinia 1798 without any general or item? Absolutely, many of us did it. Is it possible to complete post-patch Netherlands without any general or item? Yes, with a good strategy it is no problem at all. Is it possible to complete all campaigns (available to us) and missions in the Challenge mod without an ambulance? More than possible. Therefore we can make a conclusion that ambulances are great items, but only items for our generals. What is absolutely necessary for completing this game is a team of generals working in synergy with each other. It seems that my point of view is not very popular , but it is my deep conviction that it is far more important, first of all, to understand the relative value of skills and, second, to elaborate a decent synergy of your units on the battlefield. , the question is not whether it is possible to complete the content without items, skills' upgrades or whatever else, but what is the most convinient way to do it  Everything is possible - You just need to keep trying and eventually You'll work out proper strategy. As we remember EW4 was the game where all the best gens were unavailable for free-to-play but it was possible to complete it anyway. That's what we love ET games for Most missions can be completed with 2 academy gens and 2 free gens for instance, so it doesn't mean that You need to wait with ambulance before You have a full squad. The thread is about what is the most convinient time to purchase it. In most missions You anyway need somewhat like 4 gens, so investing thousands of medals into 5th or 6th gen or 3rd or 4th gen's skills upgrades instead of 480 medals into the ambulance is not the proper way. That's what most of the people are saying here |
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Post by stoic on Jun 19, 2018 9:06:07 GMT
With all due respect but I don't agree. Was/is it possible to complete a pre-patch Sardinia 1798 without any general or item? Absolutely, many of us did it. Is it possible to complete post-patch Netherlands without any general or item? Yes, with a good strategy it is no problem at all. Is it possible to complete all campaigns (available to us) and missions in the Challenge mod without an ambulance? More than possible. Therefore we can make a conclusion that ambulances are great items, but only items for our generals. What is absolutely necessary for completing this game is a team of generals working in synergy with each other. It seems that my point of view is not very popular , but it is my deep conviction that it is far more important, first of all, to understand the relative value of skills and, second, to elaborate a decent synergy of your units on the battlefield. , the question is not whether it is possible to complete the content without items, skills' upgrades or whatever else, but what is the most convinient way to do it Everything is possible - You just need to keep trying and eventually You'll work out proper strategy. As we remember EW4 was the game where all the best gens were unavailable for free-to-play but it was possible to complete it anyway. That's what we love ET games for Most missions can be completed with 2 academy gens and 2 free gens for instance, so it doesn't mean that You need to wait with ambulance before You have a full squad. The thread is about what is the most convinient time to purchase it. In most missions You anyway need somewhat like 4 gens, so investing thousands of medals into 5th or 6th gen or 3rd or 4th gen's skills upgrades instead of 480 medals into the ambulance is not the proper way. That's what most of the people are saying here In this case I firmly believe that the most convinient way is not the best way I understand quite well what people say, my point is that if a player (let's suppose a newbie) can learn some important patterns of the game by doing things hard way (i.e. without an ambulance) it will be more profitable for him actually (so to say personal growth ). In other words if he can do something without an ambulance, I am sure, he can do the same with an ambulance as well. But it doesn't work the other way round. Do you recall how many players start to play everytime new ET projects? And how many of them complete this or that game? An ambulance is a "cheat sheet", if you like Probably good for immediate results, but you'd better have your homework done  |
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Post by andrei on Jun 19, 2018 9:15:30 GMT
stoic , the question is not whether it is possible to complete the content without items, skills' upgrades or whatever else, but what is the most convinient way to do it Everything is possible - You just need to keep trying and eventually You'll work out proper strategy. As we remember EW4 was the game where all the best gens were unavailable for free-to-play but it was possible to complete it anyway. That's what we love ET games for Most missions can be completed with 2 academy gens and 2 free gens for instance, so it doesn't mean that You need to wait with ambulance before You have a full squad. The thread is about what is the most convinient time to purchase it. In most missions You anyway need somewhat like 4 gens, so investing thousands of medals into 5th or 6th gen or 3rd or 4th gen's skills upgrades instead of 480 medals into the ambulance is not the proper way. That's what most of the people are saying here In this case I firmly believe that the most convinient way is not the best way I understand quite well what people say, my point is that if a player (let's suppose a newbie) can learn some important patterns of the game by doing things hard way (i.e. without an ambulance) it will be more profitable for him actually (so to say personal growth ). In other words if he can do something without an ambulance, I am sure, he can do the same with an ambulance as well. But it doesn't work the other way round. Do you recall how many players start to play everytime new ET projects? And how many of them complete this or that game? An ambulance is a "cheat sheet", if you like Probably good for immediate results, but you'd better have your homework done Ok, ok, "no pain - no gain" I remember |
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Post by Robert Walpole on Jun 19, 2018 9:41:13 GMT
And here am I thinking if Easytech should make a +40 per round healing item...
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Post by Saltin on Jun 19, 2018 10:23:12 GMT
It's worth remembering that on occasions there is no absolute "best way", it can sometimes just be a player preferance or playing style. Still loving pain and refusing ambulance help might not qualify as the best and most efficient way to go Kidding aside yeah I get Stoic point, it is not an immediately necessary item although I think it makes sense to get it as early as feasable. |
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Post by Robert Walpole on Jun 19, 2018 11:27:18 GMT
Entire Thread in a nutshell: You can buy the ambulance if you want to. If you don’t want to, it’s still there in the market.
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Post by banjo on Jun 20, 2018 3:15:44 GMT
It’s really down to your preference in terms of how you want to tackle your game progression. But the real question is after the 2 ambulances you will definitely buy, is it better to go for the other healing items or the extra 10/30 point items?
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Post by Mountbatten on Jun 20, 2018 4:35:44 GMT
It’s really down to your preference in terms of how you want to tackle your game progression. But the real question is after the 2 ambulances you will definitely buy, is it better to go for the other healing items or the extra 10/30 point items? I bought one of those for Kutuzov, he's a monster. |
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Post by banjo on Jun 20, 2018 4:53:02 GMT
It’s really down to your preference in terms of how you want to tackle your game progression. But the real question is after the 2 ambulances you will definitely buy, is it better to go for the other healing items or the extra 10/30 point items? I bought one of those for Kutuzov, he's a monster. Yea I can definitely see the art generals preferring the damage items + a minor healing. What’s the % gains after equipping the 10/30 on Kutuzov? |
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Post by Mountbatten on Jun 20, 2018 6:24:52 GMT
  I believe it is 25/10 rather than 30/10 unless there is an even stronger item. |
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Post by yuanzhong on Jun 20, 2018 10:47:01 GMT
I believe it is 25/10 rather than 30/10 unless there is an even stronger item. Please make me a Prince and push my Plain Fighting to level 6 - Kutuzov said |
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Post by banjo on Jun 20, 2018 12:08:15 GMT
Wow 8% is quite significant, nice
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Post by Mountbatten on Jun 20, 2018 18:13:17 GMT
I believe it is 25/10 rather than 30/10 unless there is an even stronger item. Please make me a Prince and push my Plain Fighting to level 6 - Kutuzov said Please build a machine that spits out medals for free - Mountbatten said |
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but I don't agree.
