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Post by itzechox on Jun 17, 2018 9:42:21 GMT
I have kutuzov , %40 discounted lannes and also 4 starting generals. When should i get an ambulance? i have 450 medals right now and still farming
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Post by Robert Walpole on Jun 17, 2018 9:48:26 GMT
I have kutuzov , %40 discounted lannes and also 4 starting generals. When should i get an ambulance? i have 450 medals right now and still farming Ambulances are effective if you have a good cavalry general so you can rush missions in the least number of turns as possible. Regarding infantry and artillery, they already work best with tents. Since you have Lannes and Kutuzov, I think you should already get some ambulances once they appear at the market. |
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Post by stoic on Jun 17, 2018 10:09:23 GMT
It is a very interesting question, btw.
I completed all available campaigns with 3 stars for each mission, all missions in the Challenge mode (only 2 missions in Prussian war with 2 stars, the rest with 3 stars), and unlocked 2 out of 4 Academy generals with 50% discount (2 are unlocked with 40% discount). And I don't have yet neither Ambulance nor any other elite item.
I think that "generals first - skills second - items third" is a good long term strategy.
1. Your generals gain experience naturally this way. There are no discrepancies between them in this respect.
2. After the backbone of your team is built, you can concentrate all your efforts on the best skills of your generals. It is quite a long way, actually.
3. And only after that imo it is time to buy equipment for your generals.
Then it is possible to upgrade military rank and less important skills so to say in the field, without loosing time between missions.
Ambulances are great, without any doubt. It is tempting to buy them at once. But in the long run, I think, is better to form the backbone of your team and to upgrade best skills of your generals first, and take care of items after that...
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Post by andrei on Jun 17, 2018 10:53:07 GMT
It is a very interesting question, btw. I completed all available campaigns with 3 stars for each mission, all missions in the Challenge mode (only 2 missions in Prussian war with 2 stars, the rest with 3 stars), and unlocked 2 out of 4 Academy generals with 50% discount (2 are unlocked with 40% discount). And I don't have yet neither Ambulance nor any other elite item. I think that "generals first - skills second - items third" is a good long term strategy. 1. Your generals gain experience naturally this way. There are no discrepancies between them in this respect. 2. After the backbone of your team is built, you can concentrate all your efforts on the best skills of your generals. It is quite a long way, actually. 3. And only after that imo it is time to buy equipment for your generals. Then it is possible to upgrade military rank and less important skills so to say in the field, without loosing time between missions. Ambulances are great, without any doubt. It is tempting to buy them at once. But in the long run, I think, is better to form the backbone of your team and to upgrade best skills of your generals first, and take care of items after that... Ambulance is far better than most of the skills  |
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Post by stoic on Jun 17, 2018 11:23:07 GMT
It is a very interesting question, btw. I completed all available campaigns with 3 stars for each mission, all missions in the Challenge mode (only 2 missions in Prussian war with 2 stars, the rest with 3 stars), and unlocked 2 out of 4 Academy generals with 50% discount (2 are unlocked with 40% discount). And I don't have yet neither Ambulance nor any other elite item. I think that "generals first - skills second - items third" is a good long term strategy. 1. Your generals gain experience naturally this way. There are no discrepancies between them in this respect. 2. After the backbone of your team is built, you can concentrate all your efforts on the best skills of your generals. It is quite a long way, actually. 3. And only after that imo it is time to buy equipment for your generals. Then it is possible to upgrade military rank and less important skills so to say in the field, without loosing time between missions. Ambulances are great, without any doubt. It is tempting to buy them at once. But in the long run, I think, is better to form the backbone of your team and to upgrade best skills of your generals first, and take care of items after that... Ambulance is far better than most of the skills Better than most of them? Probably, yes. Better than best of them? Doubtful.  |
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Post by andrei on Jun 17, 2018 12:14:25 GMT
Ambulance is far better than most of the skills Better than most of them? Probably, yes. Better than best of them? Doubtful. It helps keeping Your gen at full strength which ensures max output of the gen and could be used with any gen whenever You need, so maybe it is better than even the best skills |
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Post by stoic on Jun 17, 2018 12:55:45 GMT
Better than most of them? Probably, yes. Better than best of them? Doubtful. It helps keeping Your gen at full strength which ensures max output of the gen and could be used with any gen whenever You need, so maybe it is better than even the best skills I don't see any particular reason to keep your general healthy when his skills are weak, he can't use aura and his attack is insignificant. His full health makes sense only after he will be strong enough to change the situation. Weak general with an ambulance is nothing more than a weak general with an ambulance Powerful general even without an ambulance is a decisive factor on the battlefield... |
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Post by andrei on Jun 17, 2018 13:05:04 GMT
It helps keeping Your gen at full strength which ensures max output of the gen and could be used with any gen whenever You need, so maybe it is better than even the best skills I don't see any particular reason to keep your general healthy when his skills are weak, he can't use aura and his attack is insignificant. His full health makes sense only after he will be strong enough to change the situation. Weak general with an ambulance is nothing more than a weak general with an ambulance Powerful general even without an ambulance is a decisive factor on the battlefield... Yes but You have many gens. And having 1 strong is OK to invest into the Ambulance |
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Post by Robert Walpole on Jun 17, 2018 13:12:48 GMT
It helps keeping Your gen at full strength which ensures max output of the gen and could be used with any gen whenever You need, so maybe it is better than even the best skills I don't see any particular reason to keep your general healthy when his skills are weak, he can't use aura and his attack is insignificant. His full health makes sense only after he will be strong enough to change the situation. Weak general with an ambulance is nothing more than a weak general with an ambulance Powerful general even without an ambulance is a decisive factor on the battlefield... A powerful general on the brink of death stationed at a temple for 7 turns is quite useless tbh. How about we all compromise and say they are BOTH important. |
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Post by Saltin on Jun 17, 2018 13:17:55 GMT
Personally first I would get a couple generals to get started then immediately get an ambulance or 2.
The ambulance is a game changer..literally.
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Post by stoic on Jun 17, 2018 13:18:08 GMT
I don't see any particular reason to keep your general healthy when his skills are weak, he can't use aura and his attack is insignificant. His full health makes sense only after he will be strong enough to change the situation. Weak general with an ambulance is nothing more than a weak general with an ambulance Powerful general even without an ambulance is a decisive factor on the battlefield... A powerful general on the brink of death stationed at a temple for 7 turns is quite useless tbh. How about we all compromise and say they are BOTH important. It is not a theme of a dispute The importance of both is undeniable |
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Post by Robert Walpole on Jun 17, 2018 13:22:21 GMT
Ambulances are no doubt powerful since they can heal on the go.
Skills literally require medals to upgrade and one can even be more expensive than that of an ambulance.
Gameplay wise, ambulances=skills
Medal wise, ambulances>skills
On the long run wise, ambulances<skills (since the health of your general is increasing per rank up)
But no doubt we all know generals are more important than these factors :^)
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Post by best75 on Jun 17, 2018 13:38:16 GMT
I would not wait till you upgrade your skills till you get the ambulance. The ambulance is simply too good of a item to wait for once you have your good general.
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Post by Mountbatten on Jun 18, 2018 19:16:31 GMT
Why are we debating ambulance vs skills? It's well within our range to get both As for my own input, I got my first ambulance after I bought Bolivar and Kutuzov and I bought my second after buying Massena. It's a very effective item. I don't have a cavalry general to use them on but they work fantastic for infantry regardless. In the end game I will look to have all of my generals equipped with regeneration items. The only way to regen health on the battlefield is temples, I believe I read that cities don't heal anymore. I hardly ever use temples so the ambulance is naturally my best asset. |
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Post by banjo on Jun 19, 2018 6:55:24 GMT
I only bought the ambulance after I bought Karl, but in hindsight it would have acelerated my progress if I had bought ambulance first as it significantly boosts general survivability and helps with Netherlands farm for the gen on the heavy cav.
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