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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Oct 12, 2019 9:41:06 GMT
Mmm My first germany run didnt follow any strategy haha just did it with the maximum historical accuracy as possible and only faced slight spams
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Post by Gone on Oct 13, 2019 2:03:44 GMT
Dude listen to me i have done this conquest with no gens no tech first shot S rank 60 turns. First you need to do is to transfer manstein to the eastern front asap the eastern front you HAVE TO maximze the dâmge dealt even with the cost of damageing units( dont step in mines tho) You find yourself capitulating Poland within 5 turns and then move your entire eastern army up north taking Leningrad and Riga in 8th turn (+ignore Denmark and Norway) if you fail to do this then restart, you failed cuz timoshenko and vatutin will spawm and deal masive damage. Then head straight for Moscow, ignore Minsk and Kiev. You sshould bring as much force as you can and surround the city litterally to get their moral 2 times down latest turn 18. It will fall then dont send anymore money to the east but to the west and if you play it right manstein guderian bock model is still ok. Then send them south to take Minsk Kiev and Stalingrad ASAP or they will spawn new gens there and slow you down, trade health for speed. then head to China to aid Japan ASAP through the fastest way. Meanwhile in the western front you should defend using as least as possible resources to take holland belgium by Meyer and Leeb then defend British backup landings by howitzer from afar defend cities by light inf try anyway to block them from landing even by paratroops. After the fall of Moscow you should build up some heavy tanks there and launch invasion of france after taking Kiev while keep on protecting cities and block Brits from landing. The invaion would be slow but you will win in the end. Then, start bombing London by strategic bombers in Paris by accumlating money for one bomb row in 1 turn then para troop it then block units from retake London by para trooping ảound the city as meat shields(this wil take about 3500$). The next turn immediately make tier 3 heavy tanks there until there is 6 of those in the British Isle then the Uk will fall quickly. Meanwhile in Asia after killing China head for India ASAP take New Dehli and Mumbai then split your forces:Bock and Model down south to finish of India and then head west for East Asia and Africa, the others( Manstein and Guderian ) go for South East Asia, take the Phillipines and indochian and Indonesia then kill Austrailia by Air power ( you have to preserve the 4 above tank gen no matter the cost by occasionally air strikes and support from the three inf gens. If you can take UK and China, India, Austrailia and Africa then the rest is a piece of cake cuz you have missles. Remember to trade health for speed in the east while still preserving tank gens and to defend in the west and then invade France after Mosow fall and with the help of tier 3 heavy tanks( redirect all your money to west after moscow falls before that all to the east) during that use some air strike if needed if it gets you faster. P/s keep an eye on the Denmark and Norway they could send troops towards you. P/s This could be long ( sorry ) but it might be the best chance for you to win if luck is on your side Goodluck!!!! Yeah. The Soviets themselves are quite easy to defeat. The problem is their generals because almost all of them are great and many of them are among the top in the game, such as Rokossovsky and Zhukov. |
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Oct 13, 2019 4:32:50 GMT
zhukov, on a non stacked howitzer, can be easily dealt with in 1939/1943 using fighters/infantry
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Post by wilhelmvonleeb on Oct 13, 2019 11:38:11 GMT
Zhukov spawns in Moscow in turn 20-ish; Vatutin and Timo in Leningrad/Riga in turn 8; Budyonny in Kiev in turn 28; Vasilevsky in Minsk in turn 22-24(dont remember exactly). According to my strategy you will take out Poland in turn 5 Riga + Leningrad in turn 8 so no Timo and Vatutin spawned; Take out Moscow in turn 15-17 so no Zhukov; take out Minskin turn 22 so no Vasilevsky; take out Kiev in turn 27 so no Budyonny. You will just face gens like Rokko ( remember Chuikov and Konev are killed by romanians in turn 25-ish) and voronov. So sacrificing health for speed has the purpose of avoiding damage in the end
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Post by beetle1944 on Nov 24, 2019 1:09:05 GMT
Umm, why is Spain in the allies and fighting Germany. They we under nationalistic leadership and they just finished a civil war.
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Post by Pietro Badoglio on Nov 24, 2019 3:23:05 GMT
Mainly to make the conquests more interesting (And to screw the French over even more). Also probably because of the Blue Division that Spain sent to fight the Soviets.
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Nov 24, 2019 5:50:44 GMT
Umm, why is Spain in the allies and fighting Germany. They we under nationalistic leadership and they just finished a civil war. happy first post! You are right, in some wc4 mods they made spain a neutral country too to enhance the historical accuracy |
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Nov 24, 2019 5:52:09 GMT
Mainly to make the conquests more interesting (And to screw the French over even more). Also probably because of the Blue Division that Spain sent to fight the Soviets. just realized he meant spain as an allied country supporting the french and fighting against italy and germany :0 probably a typo haha |
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Post by Icefyre on Dec 25, 2019 19:57:54 GMT
Zhukov spawns in Moscow in turn 20-ish; Vatutin and Timo in Leningrad/Riga in turn 8; Budyonny in Kiev in turn 28; Vasilevsky in Minsk in turn 22-24(dont remember exactly). According to my strategy you will take out Poland in turn 5 Riga + Leningrad in turn 8 so no Timo and Vatutin spawned; Take out Moscow in turn 15-17 so no Zhukov; take out Minskin turn 22 so no Vasilevsky; take out Kiev in turn 27 so no Budyonny. You will just face gens like Rokko ( remember Chuikov and Konev are killed by romanians in turn 25-ish) and voronov. So sacrificing health for speed has the purpose of avoiding damage in the end I am seeing Budyonny in turn 19. Also, I killed a general in Moscow, earlier (I didn't read his name). |
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Dec 26, 2019 6:29:56 GMT
Zhukov spawns in Moscow in turn 20-ish; Vatutin and Timo in Leningrad/Riga in turn 8; Budyonny in Kiev in turn 28; Vasilevsky in Minsk in turn 22-24(dont remember exactly). According to my strategy you will take out Poland in turn 5 Riga + Leningrad in turn 8 so no Timo and Vatutin spawned; Take out Moscow in turn 15-17 so no Zhukov; take out Minskin turn 22 so no Vasilevsky; take out Kiev in turn 27 so no Budyonny. You will just face gens like Rokko ( remember Chuikov and Konev are killed by romanians in turn 25-ish) and voronov. So sacrificing health for speed has the purpose of avoiding damage in the end I am seeing Budyonny in turn 19. Also, I killed a general in Moscow, earlier (I didn't read his name). rokossovsky? sometimes when you are fast enough and keep defeating enemy units that spawn out of Kiev, the cycle speeds up and Budyonny appears sooner. Btw happy first post and welcome to the forum  |
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Post by ez4ence on Feb 11, 2020 12:51:29 GMT
Dude listen to me i have done this conquest with no gens no tech first shot S rank 60 turns. First you need to do is to transfer manstein to the eastern front asap the eastern front you HAVE TO maximze the dâmge dealt even with the cost of damageing units( dont step in mines tho) You find yourself capitulating Poland within 5 turns and then move your entire eastern army up north taking Leningrad and Riga in 8th turn (+ignore Denmark and Norway) if you fail to do this then restart, you failed cuz timoshenko and vatutin will spawm and deal masive damage. Then head straight for Moscow, ignore Minsk and Kiev. You sshould bring as much force as you can and surround the city litterally to get their moral 2 times down latest turn 18. It will fall then dont send anymore money to the east but to the west and if you play it right manstein guderian bock model is still ok. Then send them south to take Minsk Kiev and Stalingrad ASAP or they will spawn new gens there and slow you down, trade health for speed. then head to China to aid Japan ASAP through the fastest way. Meanwhile in the western front you should defend using as least as possible resources to take holland belgium by Meyer and Leeb then defend British backup landings by howitzer from afar defend cities by light inf try anyway to block them from landing even by paratroops. After the fall of Moscow you should build up some heavy tanks there and launch invasion of france after taking Kiev while keep on protecting cities and block Brits from landing. The invaion would be slow but you will win in the end. Then, start bombing London by strategic bombers in Paris by accumlating money for one bomb row in 1 turn then para troop it then block units from retake London by para trooping ảound the city as meat shields(this wil take about 3500$). The next turn immediately make tier 3 heavy tanks there until there is 6 of those in the British Isle then the Uk will fall quickly. Meanwhile in Asia after killing China head for India ASAP take New Dehli and Mumbai then split your forces:Bock and Model down south to finish of India and then head west for East Asia and Africa, the others( Manstein and Guderian ) go for South East Asia, take the Phillipines and indochian and Indonesia then kill Austrailia by Air power ( you have to preserve the 4 above tank gen no matter the cost by occasionally air strikes and support from the three inf gens. If you can take UK and China, India, Austrailia and Africa then the rest is a piece of cake cuz you have missles. Remember to trade health for speed in the east while still preserving tank gens and to defend in the west and then invade France after Mosow fall and with the help of tier 3 heavy tanks( redirect all your money to west after moscow falls before that all to the east) during that use some air strike if needed if it gets you faster. P/s keep an eye on the Denmark and Norway they could send troops towards you. P/s This could be long ( sorry ) but it might be the best chance for you to win if luck is on your side Goodluck!!!! For me I used the Walmart Guderian and my Manstein that I deployed and rekt both of them |
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Feb 11, 2020 13:50:31 GMT
Dude listen to me i have done this conquest with no gens no tech first shot S rank 60 turns. First you need to do is to transfer manstein to the eastern front asap the eastern front you HAVE TO maximze the dâmge dealt even with the cost of damageing units( dont step in mines tho) You find yourself capitulating Poland within 5 turns and then move your entire eastern army up north taking Leningrad and Riga in 8th turn (+ignore Denmark and Norway) if you fail to do this then restart, you failed cuz timoshenko and vatutin will spawm and deal masive damage. Then head straight for Moscow, ignore Minsk and Kiev. You sshould bring as much force as you can and surround the city litterally to get their moral 2 times down latest turn 18. It will fall then dont send anymore money to the east but to the west and if you play it right manstein guderian bock model is still ok. Then send them south to take Minsk Kiev and Stalingrad ASAP or they will spawn new gens there and slow you down, trade health for speed. then head to China to aid Japan ASAP through the fastest way. Meanwhile in the western front you should defend using as least as possible resources to take holland belgium by Meyer and Leeb then defend British backup landings by howitzer from afar defend cities by light inf try anyway to block them from landing even by paratroops. After the fall of Moscow you should build up some heavy tanks there and launch invasion of france after taking Kiev while keep on protecting cities and block Brits from landing. The invaion would be slow but you will win in the end. Then, start bombing London by strategic bombers in Paris by accumlating money for one bomb row in 1 turn then para troop it then block units from retake London by para trooping ảound the city as meat shields(this wil take about 3500$). The next turn immediately make tier 3 heavy tanks there until there is 6 of those in the British Isle then the Uk will fall quickly. Meanwhile in Asia after killing China head for India ASAP take New Dehli and Mumbai then split your forces:Bock and Model down south to finish of India and then head west for East Asia and Africa, the others( Manstein and Guderian ) go for South East Asia, take the Phillipines and indochian and Indonesia then kill Austrailia by Air power ( you have to preserve the 4 above tank gen no matter the cost by occasionally air strikes and support from the three inf gens. If you can take UK and China, India, Austrailia and Africa then the rest is a piece of cake cuz you have missles. Remember to trade health for speed in the east while still preserving tank gens and to defend in the west and then invade France after Mosow fall and with the help of tier 3 heavy tanks( redirect all your money to west after moscow falls before that all to the east) during that use some air strike if needed if it gets you faster. P/s keep an eye on the Denmark and Norway they could send troops towards you. P/s This could be long ( sorry ) but it might be the best chance for you to win if luck is on your side Goodluck!!!! For me I used the Walmart Guderian and my Manstein that I deployed and rekt both of them welcome to the forum, happy first post!! Guderian and Manstein can bring the Panzers to new glory  |
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Post by Gone on Apr 25, 2020 3:02:54 GMT
Umm, why is Spain in the allies and fighting Germany. They we under nationalistic leadership and they just finished a civil war. happy first post! You are right, in some wc4 mods they made spain a neutral country too to enhance the historical accuracy I would like to see a WC4 mod where even Germany’s puppet states appear. |
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Post by Darth Vader on Apr 25, 2020 3:11:13 GMT
There is Axis v Allies wc3 mod, it even has Axis Croatia.
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Post by Gone on Apr 25, 2020 3:40:28 GMT
There is Axis v Allies wc3 mod, it even has Axis Croatia. Oh, nice. I will take a look at it. Hopefully it’s better than the Better WW2 Mod, a very promising mod that sadly got abandoned. |
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