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Post by SolidLight on Oct 17, 2019 16:23:01 GMT
 So I just did Holy Roman Empire 1798 in 15 turns. This isn't a new record, as cojoncio did France in 15 turns too. I know that 14 turns is possible though. You can see Palma highlighted in the screenshot. That's because Palma was the only city that remained after turn 14. Usually I can take Palma by ~turn 12, but I had horrendous luck on Barcelona and Zaragoza this run. It's frustrating. I'll try again later, as this was tiresome. |
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Post by SolidLight on Oct 19, 2019 11:04:21 GMT
If you manage to beat the fastest record of 1798 in 14 turns, you're either a god, really lucky, or a hacker. - Deleted Read more: european-war-4.boards.net/thread/10776/speedrunners-guide-ew6#ixzz62nIowSZwWell, here you go. I'm none of those things, even luck doesn't have a huge impact on this run. I used a maxed Blucher, maxed Murat, maxed Dabrowski, maxed Lan, highly upgraded Ney, an unupgraded Desaix, a highly upgraded Karl on light cavalry, and a highly upgraded Mahmud. I forgot to take screenshots during the early rounds of my winning run. So I stiched together some screenshots of earlier runs with my winning one. 
Turn 1 Overview So here's the general plan. There's a lot of light cavalry available on the french front. Those are getting generals and are going to charge hard at Spain. Those three units from Budapest and Cluj-Napoca are going up to Warsaw. Radetzky, Franz and all those units nearby are going to barge through Milan into Southeastern France.
Turn 4 So here's something I changed in my strategy on the other runs. Turn 4 isn't the best turn to take on Warsaw, Turn 5 is. Warsaw MUST die on turn 7-8 because Poniatowski spawns on turn 8. Waiting till turn 10 costs way too much pop. Oh, and Sweden joins on turn 4 too, and they need a 300 gold donation immediately.
  Turn 5-7 These are pretty much the roughest turns of the run. Warsaw costs too much pop, defending against the French also costs too much pop, and I need to keep all my units to keep up the offensive and defend so that France loses money. You can see that I've already arrived in Spain on turn 7. The fastest that can happen is turn 6, which I did in my winning run. I also prepared a forced march using the wonder and had Dabrowski sail from Netherlands to Norway in 1 turn. Sweden CANNOT beat Denmark in 14 turn alone.
Turn 9 So from here on out these are screenshots of my winning run.
Turn 9 Spain 5 turns left to do this. It's not nearly as bad as it looks since almost every spanish city is heavily sieged by the British and Portuguese. The only city that's mostly intact is Madrid, 5 turns to siege Madrid.
Turn 9 Denmark You can see how much Denmark owns Sweden during 1798. Dabrowski was the only general I had that is strong enough to handle this alone without weakening the main front too much.
Turn 14 And Denmark falls on turn 14. I lucked out with Copenhagen. The danes could have easily stalled out to turn 15 if they played smart, but they didn't luckily. I also beat Spain on turn 13.
Turn 14 France Last remaining city.
Turn 14 VICTORY! And so I claim an uncontested 1798 3 star record. The fastest one ever recorded on the forum. A 12 and 13 turn victory is theoretically possible, but that takes extremely good luck and even stronger generals than those that I used, as Oudinot spawns on turn 11 and MacDonald spawns on turn 12, so if you want to win that fast you need to kill one of those people in one round.
EDIT: 13 turns is a somewhat realistic achievement, even with the generals I have. What I need to do is to leave Turin/Brittany on turn 12 and force MacDonald to spawn in one of those two cities. The idea is that MacDonald will leave that city on Frances turn, which is before everyone but the players, and then the British or the Neapolitans who are going to be nearby will capture Turin/Brittany. This does not work for a 12 turn win though. I don't feel like doing this now, but atleast that means that this run is improvable. |
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Post by Navia Lanoira on Oct 20, 2019 5:05:40 GMT
Hmm, impressive. I knew it... that et’s new update helps you speedrunners do the record clean. Nice work dude SolidLight |
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Post by SolidLight on Oct 20, 2019 7:30:35 GMT
Hmm, impressive. I knew it... that et’s new update helps you speedrunners do the record clean. Nice work dude SolidLightDesaix was almost unupgraded and he’s pretty mediocre. I could have replaced him with Scharnhorst or something and still get the same result. I also don’t use medkits because those cost medals and are OP. So yeah, the update doesn’t do anything really for speedruns. The only advantage I have on the other people is that I’ve got slots to fit 5 cav gens. |
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Post by Navia Lanoira on Oct 23, 2019 11:39:13 GMT
Hmm, impressive. I knew it... that et’s new update helps you speedrunners do the record clean. Nice work dude SolidLight Desaix was almost unupgraded and he’s pretty mediocre. I could have replaced him with Scharnhorst or something and still get the same result. I also don’t use medkits because those cost medals and are OP. So yeah, the update doesn’t do anything really for speedruns. The only advantage I have on the other people is that I’ve got slots to fit 5 cav gens. Hmm, medkits cost medals? I dont play ew6 much this update, so I dont know that. |
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Post by SolidLight on Oct 23, 2019 12:27:58 GMT
Desaix was almost unupgraded and he’s pretty mediocre. I could have replaced him with Scharnhorst or something and still get the same result. I also don’t use medkits because those cost medals and are OP. So yeah, the update doesn’t do anything really for speedruns. The only advantage I have on the other people is that I’ve got slots to fit 5 cav gens. Hmm, medkits cost medals? I dont play ew6 much this update, so I dont know that. They’re super handy for Crimean war. |
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Post by SolidLight on Oct 25, 2019 8:31:05 GMT
I noted down all of Frances general spawns (that matter) in 1798.
Turn 3 - Grouchy, blocks you on turn 4
Turn 4 - Savary, blocks you on turn 5
Turn 5 - Lasalle, blocks you on turn 6
Turn 6 - Jourdan, blocks you on turn 7
Turn 7 - Bernadotte, blocks you on turn 8
Turn 10 - Oudinot, blocks you on turn 11
Turn 11 - Moreau, blocks you on turn 12
Turn 12 - MacDonald, blocks you on turn 13.
Turn 14 - Murat, blocks you on turn 15
Turn 16 - Berthier, blocks you on turn 17
France is killable on the turns 9, 10, 14, 16.
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Post by Navia Lanoira on Oct 29, 2019 8:28:44 GMT
I noted down all of Frances general spawns (that matter) in 1798. Turn 3 - Grouchy, blocks you on turn 4 Turn 4 - Savary, blocks you on turn 5 Turn 5 - Lasalle, blocks you on turn 6 Turn 6 - Jourdan, blocks you on turn 7 Turn 7 - Bernadotte, blocks you on turn 8 Turn 10 - Oudinot, blocks you on turn 11 Turn 11 - Moreau, blocks you on turn 12 Turn 12 - MacDonald, blocks you on turn 13. Turn 14 - Murat, blocks you on turn 15 Turn 16 - Berthier, blocks you on turn 17 France is killable on the turns 9, 10, 14, 16. Nice note, yet those gens can spawn at any cities on your mentioned turns, or one turn later. |
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Post by SolidLight on Oct 29, 2019 9:05:12 GMT
I noted down all of Frances general spawns (that matter) in 1798. Turn 3 - Grouchy, blocks you on turn 4 Turn 4 - Savary, blocks you on turn 5 Turn 5 - Lasalle, blocks you on turn 6 Turn 6 - Jourdan, blocks you on turn 7 Turn 7 - Bernadotte, blocks you on turn 8 Turn 10 - Oudinot, blocks you on turn 11 Turn 11 - Moreau, blocks you on turn 12 Turn 12 - MacDonald, blocks you on turn 13. Turn 14 - Murat, blocks you on turn 15 Turn 16 - Berthier, blocks you on turn 17 France is killable on the turns 9, 10, 14, 16. Nice note, yet those gens can spawn at any cities on your mentioned turns, or one turn later. Yeah, these general spawns are scripted. They always spawn on these turns. What I mean by «blocks you» is that they actually spawn one turn before you have to deal with them. |
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Post by Gone on Oct 30, 2019 23:55:36 GMT
I’m never taking a record. But I’m happy with being an active member of the community.
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Post by SolidLight on Oct 31, 2019 10:23:47 GMT
I’m never taking a record. But I’m happy with being an active member of the community. You don’t need to take a record, but you can try to win a conquest as fast as possible since it’s pretty fun to find better and better approaches to different conquests. Who knows, maybe you can win a record too. I also never thought I’d be able to beat any of the standing records before. |
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Post by Navia Lanoira on Oct 31, 2019 17:29:15 GMT
I’m never taking a record. But I’m happy with being an active member of the community. You don’t need to take a record, but you can try to win a conquest as fast as possible since it’s pretty fun to find better and better approaches to different conquests. Who knows, maybe you can win a record too. I also never thought I’d be able to beat any of the standing records before. At least you enjoy the game, hehe |
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Post by SolidLight on Nov 3, 2019 12:42:36 GMT
First test run with a 3 star in 1812. I think that Spain works better than Britain because I don't actually need to do much directly in America until turn ~15. Spain is in a pretty good position to get there and their wonder is absolutely amazing. They can also get to the Ottomans way faster than Britain can. I can definetly beat stoic 's 32 turn record. I'm telling you man, I told you I will be beating that 1815 record one day.Not now though. I'm tired, but I will be back to set my foot in the 1812-1815 record boards! |
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Post by stoic on Nov 3, 2019 13:56:36 GMT
Yes, I know, all these attempts can be very exhausting. Is is exciting on one side, but very time-consuming on the other...
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Post by journeykeen on Dec 4, 2019 0:30:11 GMT
Assuming the 3 star 1812 (32 round) record is still accurate, I tied it with Russia. I was running through it a couple of times to get a feel to compete for the WR and so my only screenshot is the final... I do not have a reputation but it is only a tie anyway. In the run I overpopulated eight times, so, with a single US city being the only one past round 30, a better round count is definitely attainable if I find the time. I also believe Austria is possible but it is much more difficult and the opening rounds to do it take considerably good RNG. I hope to find more time for both. If this is an old record and mine is an average round, please do tell.  |
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