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Post by Seger on Jun 27, 2019 15:31:50 GMT
what languages have you learned / are you learning now? I am now learning / have learned English, French, German, ancient Greek and Latin as foreign languages but I would also like to learn Spanish.
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Post by NetherFreek on Jun 27, 2019 16:46:17 GMT
Really depends on what you count.
Enfin,
I speak Dutch and German fluently, I also speak English on a very reasonable level.
As some of you may know I lived in Denmark for 2 years.
Even though I can't quite copy their pronunciation, I can hold a basic Danish conversation.
And especially due to speaking Dutch, German and English. I have little to no problem understanding it and reading.
In school I also learned French, Latin, Ancient Greek and Spanish.
I can't speak Latin or Greek (which I dropped after 2 years) at all though, and I dropped French after 2 years of "je suis neerlandais et je ne parle pas Francais".
I haven't spoken Spanish in a long while and tbh was never really good at it.
I can read most basic Spanish texts (think about Youtube for instance) but have trouble listening to it (especially if they speak in their regular, fast pace).
I also learned Afrikaans before visiting South Africa.
It depends on whether you see it as a Dutch dialect or a separate language to really count this one though.
But if you're Dutch, you can essentially learn Afrikaans in 2 weeks (learn grammar rules, of which there are remarkably less than in standard Dutch. Then learn some vocab, but remember that 90-95% of all Afrikaans words are the same in Dutch).
In terms of proficiency I would go like this:
1. Dutch (natively)
2. German (Good)
3. English (Good)
4. Afrikaans (Good)
5. Danish (Okay)
6. Spanish (Reasonable)
7. Norwegian/Swedish (never learned, but close enough to Danish that you can read basic text in those languages) (Reasonable, but read/listen only)
8. French (Couple of sentences)
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Post by NetherFreek on Jun 27, 2019 16:53:20 GMT
If I were to learn a language right now it would be Spanish though.
I would simply do it by learning Grammar on tutorial sites, than use Anki to learn vocabulary and especially, read a lot.
Don't do duolingo though, it's quite inefficient
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Post by Seger on Jun 27, 2019 16:54:30 GMT
Really depends on what you count. Enfin, I speak Dutch and German fluently, I also speak English on a very reasonable level. As some of you may know I lived in Denmark for 2 years. Even though I can't quite copy their pronunciation, I can hold a basic Danish conversation. And especially due to speaking Dutch, German and English. I have little to no problem understanding it and reading. In school I also learned French, Latin, Ancient Greek and Spanish. I can't speak Latin or Greek (which I dropped after 2 years) at all though, and I dropped French after 2 years of "je suis neerlandais et je ne parle pas Francais". I haven't spoken Spanish in a long while and tbh was never really good at it. I can read most basic Spanish texts (think about Youtube for instance) but have trouble listening to it (especially if they speak in their regular, fast pace). I also learned Afrikaans before visiting South Africa. It depends on whether you see it as a Dutch dialect or a separate language to really count this one though. But if you're Dutch, you can essentially learn Afrikaans in 2 weeks (learn grammar rules, of which there are remarkably less than in standard Dutch. Then learn some vocab, but remember that 90-95% of all Afrikaans words are the same in Dutch). In terms of proficiency I would go like this: 1. Dutch (natively) 2. German (Good) 3. English (Good) 4. Afrikaans (Good) 5. Danish (Okay) 6. Spanish (Reasonable) 7. Norwegian/Swedish (never learned, but close enough to Danish that you can read basic text in those languages) (Reasonable) 8. French (Couple of sentences) officially, Afrikaans is a daughters language easier than Frisian but more difficult than an accent |
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Post by NetherFreek on Jun 27, 2019 17:25:01 GMT
I agree it's definitely tougher than faking an Utrechter Accent. But to be honest I really agree with the conception of "A language is a dialect with an army". Perhaps not army, but political agenda. Look at the Netherlands (or actually Benelux) for instance: Why is West Frisian a recognised regional language but Low Saxon isn't? Looking internationally we have similar stories.
Looking at language in the Balkan, why are Serbian and Croatian considered separate languages when they're mutably intelligible? Breyten Breytenbach (no, didn't make up that name) researched the difference between Afrikaans and Dutch and came to this table: For comparison, the difference between the Recieved Pronunciation (British) and Southern American (Texas) is around 22. This is roughly the same as Afrikaans to Standard Dutch, but one is a recognised Daughter Language, whereas the other is just a dialect.
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Post by Seger on Jun 27, 2019 19:17:15 GMT
I agree it's definitely tougher than faking an Utrechter Accent. But to be honest I really agree with the conception of "A language is a dialect with an army". Perhaps not army, but political agenda. Look at the Netherlands (or actually Benelux) for instance: Why is West Frisian a recognised regional language but Low Saxon isn't? Looking internationally we have similar stories.
Looking at language in the Balkan, why are Serbian and Croatian considered separate languages when they're mutably intelligible? Breyten Breytenbach (no, didn't make up that name) researched the difference between Afrikaans and Dutch and came to this table: For comparison, the difference between the Recieved Pronunciation (British) and Southern American (Texas) is around 22. This is roughly the same as Afrikaans to Standard Dutch, but one is a recognised Daughter Language, whereas the other is just a dialect.
I think you're right claiming a own language is a easy way to create nationalism, and the claim of a difference between croation and serbian is made because of the difference between their religions. While it is actually one language |
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Post by K S Thimayya on Jun 28, 2019 1:48:16 GMT
I speak three languages they are
Hindi (natively, bruj, khadi boli and bundeli dialect)
English (no surprise, compulsory in all indian school, It is British English but some words are directly written from Hindi to English like Shrimati can be written in place of Mrs and so on)
German (In most of the schools third language is Sanskrit which is an ancient language and most of the Hindu religious texts are written in it but I opted for German(Ja ich kann Deutsch sprache sodern mein Deutsch ist schlect) however still I can understand about 70% of the obvious conversations without involving any technical term.)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2019 22:51:36 GMT
No one pick RUSSIAN😥
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Post by Navia Lanoira on Jul 10, 2019 13:34:35 GMT
I speak alien language.
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Post by NetherFreek on Jul 10, 2019 14:34:16 GMT
Interesting, do you have a sample? |
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Jul 12, 2019 11:29:13 GMT
Interesting, do you have a sample? gdgdgdpfpfpftwtwtw, twywb kwiwi nwnw |
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Post by K S Thimayya on Jul 12, 2019 11:30:47 GMT
Interesting, do you have a sample? gdgdgdpfpfpftwtwtw, twywb kwiwi nwnw Do you even think they will write in Latin script? LOL XD |
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Jul 12, 2019 11:31:37 GMT
gdgdgdpfpfpftwtwtw, twywb kwiwi nwnw Do you even think they will write in Latin script? LOL XD Alien ---> latin ---> english |
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Jul 12, 2019 11:32:03 GMT
nd of course im always injecting a tinge of harmless satire  |
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Post by Kiyomi on Jul 12, 2019 11:42:24 GMT
I know Italian natively and I learned English and Japanese (I recently started with the classical form too), next I'm going to learn Mandarin, German and Latin.
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