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Post by stoic on Jul 5, 2019 6:22:12 GMT
I think it could be the case when we can overdo it Mobility ftw I personally might be tempted by idea of buying Pacorus 2.0 - Commius
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Post by andrei on Jul 5, 2019 6:24:16 GMT
stoic , Seger , as You know ET games are not only about raw damage, but fast mission completion as well. I have Arminius, don't buy him Raw damage, when used right, can make you complete a mission faster What does it mean "used right"? You played campaign. Obviously there are a lot of missions You need to send same gens from one flank to another and need to do it in time. Also I was never hyped so much about terrain skills as You guys. Don't make me wrong - it's great. However the placement of Your generals and units depends (first!) on where the hell enemy/city is, than You need to take into consideration (second!) Your aura and only (third!) terrain bonus. So 3 prerequirements are to be fulfilled in order to benefit from terrain. Well, that's too much imo to overestimate this skill. And at the same time Mobility is always mobility whatever the situation on the field.
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Post by stoic on Jul 5, 2019 6:44:52 GMT
Raw damage, when used right, can make you complete a mission faster What does it mean "used right"? You played campaign. Obviously there are a lot of missions You need to send same gens from one flank to another and need to do it in time. Also I was never hyped so much about terrain skills as You guys. Don't make me wrong - it's great. However the placement of Your generals and units depends (first!) on where the hell enemy/city is, than You need to take into consideration (second!) Your aura and only (third!) terrain bonus. So 3 prerequirements are to be fulfilled in order to benefit from terrain. Well, that's too much imo to overestimate this skill. And at the same time Mobility is always mobility whatever the situation on the field. I agree that terrain bonuses might be not as good as in EW6, but Arminius has some defensive potential as well and a possibility to strike without retaliation. Quite useful, don't you find? Btw, what about Caesar (a question above)?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2019 6:49:47 GMT
What does it mean "used right"? You played campaign. Obviously there are a lot of missions You need to send same gens from one flank to another and need to do it in time. Also I was never hyped so much about terrain skills as You guys. Don't make me wrong - it's great. However the placement of Your generals and units depends (first!) on where the hell enemy/city is, than You need to take into consideration (second!) Your aura and only (third!) terrain bonus. So 3 prerequirements are to be fulfilled in order to benefit from terrain. Well, that's too much imo to overestimate this skill. And at the same time Mobility is always mobility whatever the situation on the field. I agree that terrain bonuses might be not as good as in EW6, but Arminius has some defensive potential as well and a possibility to strike without retaliation. Quite useful, don't you find? Btw, what about Caesar (a question above)? Terrain bonus isn't percentage, that's why i wasn't that keen about Terrain bonuses, although extra damage doesn't hurt.
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Post by andrei on Jul 5, 2019 6:50:27 GMT
What does it mean "used right"? You played campaign. Obviously there are a lot of missions You need to send same gens from one flank to another and need to do it in time. Also I was never hyped so much about terrain skills as You guys. Don't make me wrong - it's great. However the placement of Your generals and units depends (first!) on where the hell enemy/city is, than You need to take into consideration (second!) Your aura and only (third!) terrain bonus. So 3 prerequirements are to be fulfilled in order to benefit from terrain. Well, that's too much imo to overestimate this skill. And at the same time Mobility is always mobility whatever the situation on the field. I agree that terrain bonuses might be not as good as in EW6, but Arminius has some defensive potential as well and a possibility to strike without retaliation. Quite useful, don't you find? Btw, what about Caesar (a question above)? Defensive, yeah, don't like to focus on defense. Archer shooting many times? It's awesome. Very very useful, go for it. Not only with archers though. Triggers often enough and helpful so much. This skill group is very strong. I think in GC:R skills are more balanced than in previous series.
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Post by yuanzhong on Jul 5, 2019 6:51:26 GMT
What does it mean "used right"? You played campaign. Obviously there are a lot of missions You need to send same gens from one flank to another and need to do it in time. Also I was never hyped so much about terrain skills as You guys. Don't make me wrong - it's great. However the placement of Your generals and units depends (first!) on where the hell enemy/city is, than You need to take into consideration (second!) Your aura and only (third!) terrain bonus. So 3 prerequirements are to be fulfilled in order to benefit from terrain. Well, that's too much imo to overestimate this skill. And at the same time Mobility is always mobility whatever the situation on the field. I agree that terrain bonuses might be not as good as in EW6, but Arminius has some defensive potential as well and a possibility to strike without retaliation. Quite useful, don't you find? Btw, what about Caesar (a question above)? It's great but u need to invest 450 medals for that. IMO, commander skills are among the best skills in GRC. But how can Archer attack 3 times?
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Post by andrei on Jul 5, 2019 6:53:07 GMT
I agree that terrain bonuses might be not as good as in EW6, but Arminius has some defensive potential as well and a possibility to strike without retaliation. Quite useful, don't you find? Btw, what about Caesar (a question above)? It's great but u need to invest 450 medals for that. IMO, commander skills are among the best skills in GRC. But how can Archer attack 3 times? No need to invest. Archer commander skill group.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2019 6:53:56 GMT
Raw damage, when used right, can make you complete a mission faster What does it mean "used right"? You played campaign. Obviously there are a lot of missions You need to send same gens from one flank to another and need to do it in time. Also I was never hyped so much about terrain skills as You guys. Don't make me wrong - it's great. However the placement of Your generals and units depends (first!) on where the hell enemy/city is, than You need to take into consideration (second!) Your aura and only (third!) terrain bonus. So 3 prerequirements are to be fulfilled in order to benefit from terrain. Well, that's too much imo to overestimate this skill. And at the same time Mobility is always mobility whatever the situation on the field. I meant as generals that do the most damage . That's why Blucher is the greatest in EW6, he has the damage and mobility to do his thing. As for the placement, there's usually one cavalry and archer unit, and around 2 infantry units, which i have all of. Some campaigns have annoying units to deal with, and the raw damage is used to take them down, while your more mobile units go ahead and take the objectives
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Post by stoic on Jul 5, 2019 6:55:51 GMT
I agree that terrain bonuses might be not as good as in EW6, but Arminius has some defensive potential as well and a possibility to strike without retaliation. Quite useful, don't you find? Btw, what about Caesar (a question above)? It's great but u need to invest 450 medals for that. IMO, commander skills are among the best skills in GRC. But how can Archer attack 3 times? Only potentially when needed, the third time using Forced march...
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Post by andrei on Jul 5, 2019 6:56:34 GMT
What does it mean "used right"? You played campaign. Obviously there are a lot of missions You need to send same gens from one flank to another and need to do it in time. Also I was never hyped so much about terrain skills as You guys. Don't make me wrong - it's great. However the placement of Your generals and units depends (first!) on where the hell enemy/city is, than You need to take into consideration (second!) Your aura and only (third!) terrain bonus. So 3 prerequirements are to be fulfilled in order to benefit from terrain. Well, that's too much imo to overestimate this skill. And at the same time Mobility is always mobility whatever the situation on the field. I meant as generals that do the most damage . That's why Blucher is the greatest in EW6, he has the damage and mobility to do his thing. As for the placement, there's usually one cavalry and archer unit, and around 2 infantry units, which i have all of. Some campaigns have annoying units to deal with, and the raw damage is used to take them down, while your more mobile units go ahead and take the objectives I don't think the strategy from EW6 is same useful in GC:R. Units are vulnerable like in EW5. The assault with limited forces easily leads to the death of the critically important gens. So "used right" is to have more damage? Didn't understand anyway More damage is good but if You can't strike because You can't reach critically important target in time -> no damage at all.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2019 7:03:51 GMT
I meant as generals that do the most damage . That's why Blucher is the greatest in EW6, he has the damage and mobility to do his thing. As for the placement, there's usually one cavalry and archer unit, and around 2 infantry units, which i have all of. Some campaigns have annoying units to deal with, and the raw damage is used to take them down, while your more mobile units go ahead and take the objectives I don't think the strategy from EW6 is same useful in GC:R. Units are vulnerable like in EW5. The assault with limited forces easily leads to the death of the critically important gens. So "used right" is to have more damage? Didn't understand anyway More damage is good but if You can't strike because You can't reach critically important target in time -> no damage at all. In the campaigns, it requires you at time to kill key units. Killing them 1 turn earlier will be useful . Although you can spam units, leave them to deal with one of them, and let your generals rush the other key unit. Also agreed, i mentioned it in another post that GCR will be more grouping of units rather EW6 where one or 2 generals are running around massacring everyone while you let militias capture cities for you. Also, the right way is using what raw damage is best at, and where mobility is best at , and consider how their weakness can be used as strength, or atleast mitigate it
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Post by yuanzhong on Jul 5, 2019 7:09:37 GMT
It's great but u need to invest 450 medals for that. IMO, commander skills are among the best skills in GRC. But how can Archer attack 3 times? No need to invest. Archer commander skill group. Mithri need 10 skill scrolls to max commander skill, and they cost 450 medals. That's what I mean.
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Post by andrei on Jul 5, 2019 7:13:55 GMT
No need to invest. Archer commander skill group. Mithri need 10 skill scrolls to max commander skill, and they cost 450 medals. That's what I mean. Why do You need to upgrade his skill? I didn't upgrade it and my Mithri strikes several times quite often. It is just a marginally more often if upgraded only once.
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Post by yuanzhong on Jul 5, 2019 7:19:12 GMT
Mithri need 10 skill scrolls to max commander skill, and they cost 450 medals. That's what I mean. Why do You need to upgrade his skill? I didn't upgrade it and my Mithri strikes several times quite often. It is just a marginally more often if upgraded only once. Because I want the best for my generals (yes, they fight for me so hard ). I just max my Caesar, Mithri not yet and he has to wait long time.
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Post by stoic on Jul 5, 2019 8:37:15 GMT
Why do You need to upgrade his skill? I didn't upgrade it and my Mithri strikes several times quite often. It is just a marginally more often if upgraded only once. Because I want the best for my generals (yes, they fight for me so hard ). I just max my Caesar, Mithri not yet and he has to wait long time. Polybius tells us an interesting story Hannibal was a refuge in the Seleucid Kingdom. It was right before the battle of Magnesia. Antiochus, the Seleucid King has decided to impress his famous guest and organised a military parade. There were all famous units of the whole Seleucid Empire: Companion cavalry - the elite royal guard since the days of Alexander, famous elite Phalanx pikemen Argyraspides (Silver shield pikemen), heavily armored cataphracts from Armenia, each of them wearing a massive gold ring etc. In his excitement Antiochus said to Hannibal: "Do you see it? Isn't it enough for these Roman farmers?". Hannibal replied: "Oh, I personally think that it is more than enough... But, on a second thought, these Romans are very, very greedy" After several days Seleucids were crushed at the battle of Magnesia and indeed Antiochus had to pay more
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