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Post by AlterFritz on Jul 23, 2019 12:02:49 GMT
Hmm, I spam especially slingers very often to defend cities against high tier units. Why? Isn't auxilary or light infantry not enough? Why do You need to build archery just to hold on couple of turns? Because they cost the same like light infantry and do more damage, further they can do one strike without take damage from counterattack. I guess, mostly the enemy troops will attack units in urban areas to take the city. So my archers try to break out (is that correct for German ausfallen/ausbrechen?) attack them from behind, hopefully they will be ignored. |
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Post by opinionmaker on Jul 24, 2019 16:53:00 GMT
Was thinking about types of attack and looks like infantry is actually the best unit type. Max efficiency against Heavy infantry/Legionary - Thump attack. And as I understand only War Elephants has this type of attack.But we definetely can't use War elephants with every country and even with those who has such a possibility it won't be that easy. Other unit types basically can't counter heavy infantry effectively. So whatever unit You use to attack heavy infantry You'll face that broken sword blue sign saying Your attack efficiency is lower than 100%. The best among them is probably Javelineer due to its special ability. Of course all heavy armoured units arte difficult to fight against, but infantry is the easiest to obtain and use. So, yes, that old discussion that infantry has no any specific "feature" can be raised once again. How do you thing dagonithtr ?  Slingers, gladiators, axemen (unsure where they are available) and woad warriors (available in Britain) have thump as well.its a fairly rare ability and considering that woad warriors also use heavy armor, they are the equivalent to war elephants for heavy infantry in the elite hunter troops considering most of those troops use pierce or slash which isn't effective against heavy armor and most of said troops also use heavy armor. |
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Post by itzechox on Jul 24, 2019 18:28:54 GMT
Wood raiders has light armor/thump combo which is unique if im not mistaken
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Post by stoic on Jul 26, 2019 17:52:34 GMT
As I understand, this is an elite Chinese archer  |
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Post by stoic on Jul 26, 2019 18:44:30 GMT
And this is an elite cavalry unit. I have to agree that it is a very promising ability  |
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Post by kingbutawl on Jul 27, 2019 19:23:45 GMT
I usually deploy cavalry units together with infantry (I don't care about archers but I will prepare myself and my senate for MithryVI ) .
Cavalry is not that difficult to spam , because you need only a lvl2 military camp that even a tier3 city can have . I don't use heavy cavalry so often , because it is a pretty expensive and slow unit . Btw , when you have Arminius , Scipio , Huo or Pacorus I on almost 2 or better 3 legions of lvl2 cavalry you can dominate the battlefield , investing 30 sesterces more than a soldier cost , for each horse .
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Post by itzechox on Jul 27, 2019 20:15:23 GMT
Lvl 2 Cav isnt good for generals because its so fragile. Light armor gets rekt by almost everything especially from archers.Heavy cav isnt that slow when you upgrade your mobilty in senate. I only use my generals if its a quick breakthrough mission or an economic one. Heavy armor rules , well unless you are against thump attack types which is pretty rare
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Post by Reinhard Von Lohengramm on Jul 27, 2019 20:28:04 GMT
Attack strong generals with strong units, the light cavalry will be destroyed very fast, but against units without generals , the light cavalry is easy to spam and hits with a good amount of damage (with a general put in to support the defense and attack weak points), this can be useful when need to defend cities against units without gens, but overrall the Heavy Cavalry is best.
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Post by kingbutawl on Jul 27, 2019 21:47:09 GMT
In conquest they smash even heavy cavalry ... At the beginning your economy (unless you play as Rome or other 3 star countries) is pretty fragile and it's difficult to train a lvl3 cavalry and you need to deploy your best generals as fast as you can .
In terms of attack there is not a considerable difference between a lvl2 or lvl3 cavalry and there is the point !
If you can deal 250 of damage with lvl2 cavalry using Scipio , it's more than enough to complete a conquest and you can refill legions easily (newly conquered cities are rarely capitals with lvl3 stables or even lvl2 to be upgrated) .
However , if you want to experience the max possible attack output of your best general , shoving in a war elephant or in a heavily armored horse aiming to kill lvl1 militia , it's up to you bruh.
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Post by itzechox on Jul 27, 2019 21:55:17 GMT
In conquest they smash even heavy cavalry ... At the beginning your economy (unless you play as Rome or other 3 star countries) is pretty fragile and it's difficult to train a lvl3 cavalry and you need to deploy your best generals as fast as you can . In terms of attack there is not a considerable difference between a lvl2 or lvl3 cavalry and there is the point ! If you can deal 250 of damage with lvl2 cavalry using Scipio , it's more than enough to complete a conquest and you can refill legions easily (newly conquered cities are rarely capitals with lvl3 stables or even lvl2 to be upgrated) . However , if you want to experience the max possible attack output of your best general , shoving in a war elephant or in a heavily armored horse aiming to kill lvl1 militia , it's up to you bruh. I see your point but im focusing on Campaign. You are right about fast start conquests with 1 star nations but in campaign its usually not enough. Have you played battle of laspina? Damn caesar destroys your light armored units very easily. And If i know something about Easytech , thats not even the beginning #RememberCrimeanWar |
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Post by kingbutawl on Jul 27, 2019 22:15:31 GMT
In campaign is more "easy" because the game gives you thick units to compensate equally strong enemies . At the moment I haven't started Caesar's campaign , because I'm trying to farm wishing to buy a good archery general ( I have only Scipio and Pacorus I together with the free commander ) . To be honest Scipio beats really hard in lvl2 cavalry even against Pompey or Spartacus in campaign , but a harmored knight when available makes your life easier |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jul 27, 2019 23:05:23 GMT
In campaign is more "easy" because the game gives you thick units to compensate equally strong enemies . At the moment I haven't started Caesar's campaign , because I'm trying to farm wishing to buy a good archery general ( I have only Scipio and Pacorus I together with the free commander ) . To be honest Scipio beats really hard in lvl2 cavalry even against Pompey or Spartacus in campaign , but a harmored knight when available makes your life easier Get Mihridates VI. He is really powerful |
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Post by kingbutawl on Jul 28, 2019 7:42:13 GMT
In campaign is more "easy" because the game gives you thick units to compensate equally strong enemies . At the moment I haven't started Caesar's campaign , because I'm trying to farm wishing to buy a good archery general ( I have only Scipio and Pacorus I together with the free commander ) . To be honest Scipio beats really hard in lvl2 cavalry even against Pompey or Spartacus in campaign , but a harmored knight when available makes your life easier Get Mihridates VI. He is really powerful Yeah buddy , I'm saving medals for him (I'm at 400 medals...) |
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Post by SolidLight on Nov 16, 2019 10:44:06 GMT
It’s honestly really hard to say what’s the best unit type in this game, but I believe it’s infantry from what I’ve seen. GCR cav does not have insane action economy like EW4/EW6 cav or WC3/WC4 tanks. Chase only activates once per turn, has a lower chance to activate than before, and doesn’t trigger on smashing cities. That means that infantrys better availability actually does give them an edge, unlike in EW6. Heavy cav is probably one of the more cost-efficient units though since they can tank.
Archers are like WC3 artillery without generals. Fragile, Slow as molasses, but hits like a train.
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Post by SolidLight on Nov 16, 2019 10:49:51 GMT
Also I like infantry because most infantry are spearmen. Spearmen are cool, and they can also impale through two rows of people in this game. Javelineers are also pretty cool, their attack reminds me of the Swine Skivers «Cripple Them» from Darkest Dungeon. |
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