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Post by kingbutawl on Aug 1, 2019 9:35:17 GMT
Drusus is a general that plays by himself ! It's a cheap cannon , that's all . If you throw hundreds of medals on Mythridates with a laurel crown he can surely surpass Drusus , but not that much when the game requires you not to use "forced march" or you can't even activate "inspire" (there are plenty of missions like these) . It is cool to argue about rough strength but we must analyze costs and benefits and if the cost of a full THICC Mithridates is comparable with the almost same price of Commius+Drusus or Drusus with some special item .
Drusus allows you to complete any mission with 3 stars like Mithridates and this benefits your game if you don't want to farm like a hamster to *Auto corrected* medals(I'm using the "stack" or "pile up" acceptation of this ambiguous word ) .
However if you are a "conquest only player" that loves to see an expensive general on war chariot or javelineers to hit a 20hp enemy with 500 of damage just to scream in sexual pleasure .... then "boaih" , I'm not judging !
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2019 10:06:52 GMT
yuanzhong, of course, evidence is needed and definitely useful. Just pointing out that reason and logic alone can solve everything, provided you have the capacity to understand it  . Speaking of which, I should update this guide now that the new update has been released
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Post by stoic on Aug 1, 2019 10:18:32 GMT
yuanzhong, of course, evidence is needed and definitely useful. Just pointing out that reason and logic alone can solve everything, provided you have the capacity to understand it . Speaking of which, I should update this guide now that the new update has been released For sure, neither reason, nor logic can explain in the slightest what happens when my girlfriend is going shopping |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2019 10:25:26 GMT
yuanzhong , of course, evidence is needed and definitely useful. Just pointing out that reason and logic alone can solve everything, provided you have the capacity to understand it . Speaking of which, I should update this guide now that the new update has been released For sure, neither reason, nor logic can explain in the slightest what happens when my girlfriend is going shopping Probably waiting for her friend to accompany her shopping. That's what usually happens . |
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Post by stoic on Aug 1, 2019 10:38:36 GMT
For sure, neither reason, nor logic can explain in the slightest what happens when my girlfriend is going shopping Probably waiting for her friend to accompany her shopping. That's what usually happens . I'd better replay Punic war conquests 100 times |
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Post by stoic on Aug 1, 2019 14:08:59 GMT
Lucius VorenusMaybe Deleted is right and I was overreacting. It is simply a game and I really didn't want to be rude. You have said what you were thinking, I have said what I was thinking. Let the people decide whether you are right, or I am right, or both of us are morrons . I hope your calculations will help you to complete the game.
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Post by Jeb Stuart on Aug 1, 2019 19:40:27 GMT
Thanks for the guide Deleted!
I guess I am getting somewhat decent in ET games, as I was viewing the generals roster and immediately said “wait, isn’t the cheap low profile Pacorus actually the best of all bronze?” 😅
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Post by Lucius Vorenus on Aug 2, 2019 1:58:55 GMT
stoic, Deleted, Well you both seem to be of the same mind that math cannot be used to compare generals. So I surrender  All I will say is this. Mechanics such as extra attacks, critical hits, weapon bonus vs armor type are nothing new. They have existed in various forms dating back to tabletop games in the 1970’s. There is also nothing unique about the situations this game presents, by comparison this game is quite simple in its mechanics, but that is to be expected from a mobile game. Yes, ability X will perform better in a certain situation and ability Y may not trigger when you need it. That is not unique to this game. In fact, it is exactly because of these variables that people began using averages to compare things that are difficult to compare. I see things are different here and people don't value averages, and that is fine. I will agree with stoic and say that people can just decide for themselves using whatever method they wish. I will continue using mine that has served me well in many games. As long as someone does not conclude that Surena is the best archer, that I will not let slide. Happy gaming
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 2, 2019 2:09:46 GMT
stoic, Deleted, Well you both seem to be of the same mind that math cannot be used to compare generals. So I surrender All I will say is this. Mechanics such as extra attacks, critical hits, weapon bonus vs armor type are nothing new. They have existed in various forms dating back to tabletop games in the 1970’s. There is also nothing unique about the situations this game presents, by comparison this game is quite simple in its mechanics, but that is to be expected from a mobile game. Yes, ability X will perform better in a certain situation and ability Y may not trigger when you need it. That is not unique to this game. In fact, it is exactly because of these variables that people began using averages to compare things that are difficult to compare. I see things are different here and people don't value averages, and that is fine. I will agree with stoic and say that people can just decide for themselves using whatever method they wish. I will continue using mine that has served me well in many games. As long as someone does not conclude that Surena is the best archer, that I will not let slide. Happy gaming Nice touch at the end 👌 Happy you too were able to resolve your differences : ) |
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Post by andrei on Aug 2, 2019 4:09:18 GMT
stoic , Deleted , Well you both seem to be of the same mind that math cannot be used to compare generals. So I surrender All I will say is this. Mechanics such as extra attacks, critical hits, weapon bonus vs armor type are nothing new. They have existed in various forms dating back to tabletop games in the 1970’s. There is also nothing unique about the situations this game presents, by comparison this game is quite simple in its mechanics, but that is to be expected from a mobile game. Yes, ability X will perform better in a certain situation and ability Y may not trigger when you need it. That is not unique to this game. In fact, it is exactly because of these variables that people began using averages to compare things that are difficult to compare. I see things are different here and people don't value averages, and that is fine. I will agree with stoic and say that people can just decide for themselves using whatever method they wish. I will continue using mine that has served me well in many games. As long as someone does not conclude that Surena is the best archer, that I will not let slide. Happy gaming Surena is not the best? How dare You?! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2019 6:55:00 GMT
Lucius Vorenus,nah, all I'm saying is it needs complete math, and who has the time solving all that if you can just test it out in real time. Point is, what does 0.5 difference matter in the long run. Theoretical advantage is good and all, but if it translates to a practical advantage that isn't too large, then it doesn't matter. Besides, If you have read most of my comments, I always specified how math and logic is important, so I'm slightly baffled why you would have come to the conclusion that I think math isn't important.
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Post by Lucius Vorenus on Aug 2, 2019 22:33:28 GMT
Lucius Vorenus,nah, all I'm saying is it needs complete math, and who has the time solving all that if you can just test it out in real time. Point is, what does 0.5 difference matter in the long run. Theoretical advantage is good and all, but if it translates to a practical advantage that isn't too large, then it doesn't matter. Besides, If you have read most of my comments, I always specified how math and logic is important, so I'm slightly baffled why you would have come to the conclusion that I think math isn't important. Some of your statements seemed to imply you did not care for math. If that is not the case then I apologize. I agree the math needs to be complete, but I don't know how I could explain crit anymore than I did. It is the exact same method people use in other games to determine the value of crit in comparison to other bonuses. Regardless, you are right about small advantages not mattering. This is a single player mobile game with limited mechanics. Complete and in-depth analysis of the skills is simply not necessary in a game like this. Once again sorry if I mistook what you were saying. |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Aug 2, 2019 23:14:04 GMT
Lucius Vorenus,nah, all I'm saying is it needs complete math, and who has the time solving all that if you can just test it out in real time. Point is, what does 0.5 difference matter in the long run. Theoretical advantage is good and all, but if it translates to a practical advantage that isn't too large, then it doesn't matter. Besides, If you have read most of my comments, I always specified how math and logic is important, so I'm slightly baffled why you would have come to the conclusion that I think math isn't important. Some of your statements seemed to imply you did not care for math. If that is not the case then I apologize. I agree the math needs to be complete, but I don't know how I could explain crit anymore than I did. It is the exact same method people use in other games to determine the value of crit in comparison to other bonuses. Regardless, you are right about small advantages not mattering. This is a single player mobile game with limited mechanics. Complete and in-depth analysis of the skills is simply not necessary in a game like this. Once again sorry if I mistook what you were saying. Yeah I think I see enough math in my engineering degree. Even though I appreciate you taking the time to do use differential equations to measure how much critical damage occurs, I think its something we can all do without : ) I appreciate the hard and testing you did tho |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 20:13:06 GMT
Lucius Vorenus, I apologize if I sounded a bit harsh during my last reply to you. Your testing helped me somewhat in some of my records . Btw, will update the guide after they release the next update.
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Post by bruno1971 on Aug 12, 2019 10:59:54 GMT
Great guide, thanks for sharing! What is senate max level? I have lvl 10 now.
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. Speaking of which, I should update this guide now that the new update has been released
All I will say is this. Mechanics such as extra attacks, critical hits, weapon bonus vs armor type are nothing new. They have existed in various forms dating back to tabletop games in the 1970’s. There is also nothing unique about the situations this game presents, by comparison this game is quite simple in its mechanics, but that is to be expected from a mobile game. Yes, ability X will perform better in a certain situation and ability Y may not trigger when you need it. That is not unique to this game. In fact, it is exactly because of these variables that people began using averages to compare things that are difficult to compare.
