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Post by kanue on Jan 22, 2020 12:47:44 GMT
So Pierce and Dogfight, in artillery's case, are better than Plain Fighting and Storm Fortifications? Or is it interchangeable? I really like Dogfight. It is such a help in many situations. I may even consider to give it to my third Artillery general as well. And since my second and third Artillery generals have plain fighting I decided that my first Artillery general should be less terrain dependent. When Pierce triggers it is more or less equal to bonuses from Plain fighting, and judging that Ivanov attacks from any possible terrain, it substitutes it to a certain extent. I like when my team members work in synergy with each other, thus I am willing to sacrifice a rough damage to interesting tactical possibilities. So, my Ivanov is weaker than he could be, but as a team member he is far more better than a pure damage dealing Artillery general. If I can use only one Artillery general it will be Ivanov, and he is a MVP in most situations. I really do agree to the ' sacrifice a rough damage to interesting tactical possibilities.' At least, if all of the generals are reskilled to be 'the best', then all of them would turn out to be identical clones and that is boring. So I am also thinking about what kind of 'role' I can assign to my Ivanov, as well as other generals. |
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Post by Pietro Badoglio on Jan 22, 2020 12:54:16 GMT
I've made my Ivanov into the debuffing general with Salvo, Artillery Expert, Tactic Master, Deterrence, and Suppress. Not sure if the two debuffing abilities stack but he's really helps my other generals take out a strong unit.
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Post by Gone on Jan 22, 2020 12:54:51 GMT
I really like Dogfight. It is such a help in many situations. I may even consider to give it to my third Artillery general as well. And since my second and third Artillery generals have plain fighting I decided that my first Artillery general should be less terrain dependent. When Pierce triggers it is more or less equal to bonuses from Plain fighting, and judging that Ivanov attacks from any possible terrain, it substitutes it to a certain extent. I like when my team members work in synergy with each other, thus I am willing to sacrifice a rough damage to interesting tactical possibilities. So, my Ivanov is weaker than he could be, but as a team member he is far more better than a pure damage dealing Artillery general. If I can use only one Artillery general it will be Ivanov, and he is a MVP in most situations. I really do agree to the ' sacrifice a rough damage to interesting tactical possibilities.' At least, if all of the generals are reskilled to be 'the best', then all of them would turn out to be identical clones and that is boring. So I am also thinking about what kind of 'role' I can assign to my Ivanov, as well as other generals. Me too. For example, Iโm not making Lee into a Petain clone. Since he is made to be a generalist, why not keep him that way? Assault and Intercept for general damage, PF for a bonus, Tactics Master for double the fun and Pierce to allow him to dish out even more damage. Every time I put him on a Heavy Machine Gunner, he wreaks havoc. The only sure way of stopping him is swarming with strong units like New Infantry. Even then, he manages to put up a good fight. |
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Post by Gone on Jan 22, 2020 12:58:14 GMT
I've made my Ivanov into the debuffing general with Salvo, Artillery Expert, Tactic Master, Deterrence, and Suppress. Interesting idea! |
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Post by Navia Lanoira on Jan 22, 2020 14:19:13 GMT
I really do agree to the ' sacrifice a rough damage to interesting tactical possibilities.' At least, if all of the generals are reskilled to be 'the best', then all of them would turn out to be identical clones and that is boring. So I am also thinking about what kind of 'role' I can assign to my Ivanov, as well as other generals. Me too. For example, Iโm not making Lee into a Petain clone. Since he is made to be a generalist, why not keep him that way? Assault and Intercept for general damage, PF for a bonus, Tactics Master for double the fun and Pierce to allow him to dish out even more damage. Every time I put him on a Heavy Machine Gunner, he wreaks havoc. The only sure way of stopping him is swarming with strong units like New Infantry. Even then, he manages to put up a good fight. Sometimes, instead of making a general better with changing skills to a good skills, they can do the same or worse. |
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Post by Navia Lanoira on Jan 22, 2020 14:20:15 GMT
Anyways, dogfight is useful to lock a garrison in a city, thatโs good for them to not spam gens.
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Post by stoic on Jan 22, 2020 18:05:52 GMT
Anyways, dogfight is useful to lock a garrison in a city, thatโs good for them to not spam gens. At times it is such a fun to make sitting ducks out of opposing generals   |
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Post by Admiral Aleksandr Kolchak on Jan 22, 2020 19:23:53 GMT
Anyways, dogfight is useful to lock a garrison in a city, thatโs good for them to not spam gens. At times it is such a fun to make sitting ducks out of opposing generals This level has always been easy, but Iโve never thought about doing it like that XD |
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Post by Pietro Badoglio on Jan 22, 2020 19:27:58 GMT
Adding insult to injury... Poor Mackensen...
But damn, Dogfight really did go from one of the worst skills *looking at you Luigi Cardona* to one of the most useful ones out there.
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Post by stoic on Jan 22, 2020 19:50:11 GMT
At times it is such a fun to make sitting ducks out of opposing generals This level has always been easy, but Iโve never thought about doing it like that XD Old school approach We had tons of such tricks back in EW5 days. |
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Post by Navia Lanoira on Jan 24, 2020 8:44:25 GMT
This level has always been easy, but Iโve never thought about doing it like that XD Old school approach We had tons of such tricks back in EW5 days. Stop in the water to die! |
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Post by Gone on Jan 24, 2020 15:18:28 GMT
Since it seems we arenโt getting Beseler in the next update, I will get Ivanov as the โNew artillery generalโ instead.
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Jan 25, 2020 2:50:10 GMT
Old school approach We had tons of such tricks back in EW5 days. Stop in the water to die! I forgot that battleships have a range of 2, so I was a clown for parking ivanov next to a frozen enemy gen that killed him in 3 turns :0 |
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Post by Navia Lanoira on Jan 25, 2020 3:36:27 GMT
I forgot that battleships have a range of 2, so I was a clown for parking ivanov next to a frozen enemy gen that killed him in 3 turns :0 That makes dogfight useless lol |
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Jan 25, 2020 14:52:26 GMT
I forgot that battleships have a range of 2, so I was a clown for parking ivanov next to a frozen enemy gen that killed him in 3 turns :0 That makes dogfight useless lol right haha, but it does prevent them from moving on to attacking your more precious units |
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