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Post by SolidLight on Jan 6, 2020 17:39:45 GMT
So I'm not sure if Salvo and Storm fortifications are affected by the damage multipliers, but I'll assume they do for now. If the calculation is the same as EW6:1804, then no, Salvo and Storm fortifications are not affected by any damage multiplier (weapon-to-armor coefficient, defense, general ability, terrain, HP-coefficient) and their effects are also not included in the unit info screen. They just add a flat +20 damage. So you can just add them after everything is calculated. The only thing that affects Salvo and Storm fortifications is damage reduction from city wall. Plain Fighting also does not really increase your damage output by 25% because it effect is additive, not multiplicative, to the bonus from general ability. For example, Leopold has +36% damage from general ability, if he commands an artillery unit with 100 base damage on plain then his damage will be 100 * (1 + 0.36 + 0.25) = 161. So plain fighting skill actually increases damage by 161/136 - 1 = 18.38%. Still very good. Regarding the main topic here, I pick Hindenburg because Ivanov and Horzendorf are already there for output but Hindenburg offers additional roles e.g. defensive supporter who also hit pretty hard or anti-ship&artillery. Huh, Interesting. Regarding the damage reduction from city wall, do you mean the damage multiplier from the artillery weapon (150%) or the defense from the city wall? And since auras add stats in percentages do they also do this additively and not multiplicative? I also really want to datamine the game to find out how on earth Surprise Attack really works. |
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Post by kanue on Jan 6, 2020 18:12:22 GMT
Huh, Interesting. Regarding the damage reduction from city wall, do you mean the damage multiplier from the artillery weapon (150%) or the defense from the city wall? And since auras add stats in percentages do they also do this additively and not multiplicative? I also really want to datamine the game to find out how on earth Surprise Attack really works. It's city wall. Unit stationing in the city takes 50% damage when the wall is still up and takes full damage when the wall is cracked. On the other hand, the city wall takes 70% damage with a unit inside and full damage without. This is how Surprise Attack works in EW6: 1804. It multiplies the damage output with its coefficient which has a base value of 1.01-1.02-1.05-1.06-1.08 for lvl 1 to 5. When you move your cavalry by 1 to 5 hex, add +0.04 +0.06 +0.08 +0.10 +0.12 respectively to the base value. E.g. if you move 5 hex, the coefficient will be 1.20 which will be multiplied to output. So, the farther you move, the bigger damage bonus will be and, yes, the effect is multiplicative. That's why Murat is deadly. Well, everything I say is based on the damage formula from EW6: 1804 which is post somewhere in that board. Though I doubt that ET didn't touch it (they actually did change the aura), I still use this infomaiton as a guild line for my decisions and evaluation for now. But nothing is certain until someone provide us with the actual formula for Ew6:1914. |
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Post by stoic on Jan 7, 2020 6:43:35 GMT
If we apply Aristotelian concepts "Actuality" and "Potentiality"  I would say Nikolaevich (which unfortunately is not a first name or a family name, and his actual name was Constantine Romanov, second cousin of Nicolas the II) is no less viable candidate for increasing defence of our teams. If we indeed can change skills in "History" mode - he is a bargain, - an Emperor with 5 skills purchased for coins. His actual skills are reflecting a sense of humour of ET managers  , but potentially he can be a very powerful cavalry general... |
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Post by Navia Lanoira on Jan 7, 2020 14:28:08 GMT
I agree Ivanov is better than Leopold in Term of which general is more versatile. Ivanov deal less damage per shot but he can shot up to thrice time per turn or depend on your luck. What do you mean by thrice time per turn? Is it two times in your turn then one time after your turn but not the next turn? |
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Post by yuanzhong on Jan 7, 2020 14:45:13 GMT
I agree Ivanov is better than Leopold in Term of which general is more versatile. Ivanov deal less damage per shot but he can shot up to thrice time per turn or depend on your luck. What do you mean by thrice time per turn? Is it two times in your turn then one time after your turn but not the next turn? Tactics from city bro |
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Post by Navia Lanoira on Jan 7, 2020 15:01:24 GMT
What do you mean by thrice time per turn? Is it two times in your turn then one time after your turn but not the next turn? Tactics from city bro Oh, i just forgot, the forced march tactics |
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Post by SolidLight on Jan 7, 2020 15:04:49 GMT
Tactics from city bro Oh, i just forgot, the forced march tactics It is the best. |
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Post by Kurt von Schleicher on Jan 9, 2020 18:34:50 GMT
I agree Ivanov is better than Leopold in Term of which general is more versatile. Ivanov deal less damage per shot but he can shot up to thrice time per turn or depend on your luck. What do you mean by thrice time per turn? Is it two times in your turn then one time after your turn but not the next turn? Only From Tactic Master skill alone not include Force March tactic indeed. |
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Post by Navia Lanoira on Jan 10, 2020 14:38:33 GMT
What do you mean by thrice time per turn? Is it two times in your turn then one time after your turn but not the next turn? Only From Tactic Master skill alone not include Force March tactic indeed. So two times, then the counterattack time? |
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Post by muller1942 on Jan 10, 2020 18:02:40 GMT
I had foch so I got Hindenburg, he has a crazy amount of BA I have him currently at 140 BA and not fully upgraded, I use him as a multi commander some times, he can go on other units and be great
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Post by Võ Nguyên Giáp on Jan 11, 2020 9:52:23 GMT
Hinderburg is very good at defending and attacking cities.He supports team so good and highest title is Emperor. Ivote Hibderburg
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Post by Gone on Jan 25, 2020 23:18:22 GMT
zabadanov86, now buying Leopold is also a good idea because he can help you during History Mode.
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Post by zabadanov86 on Jan 27, 2020 14:30:22 GMT
Bought them both ☺
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Post by Gone on Jan 27, 2020 15:37:56 GMT
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Jan 28, 2020 1:30:54 GMT
Hindenberg starts off better. He needs only 2 skills to be changed whereas Leopold II up to 3. Plus emperor vs king
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I would say Nikolaevich (which unfortunately is not a first name or a family name, and his actual name was Constantine Romanov, second cousin of Nicolas the II) is no less viable candidate for increasing defence of our teams. If we indeed can change skills in "History" mode - he is a bargain, - an Emperor with 5 skills purchased for coins. His actual skills are reflecting a sense of humour of ET managers 
, but potentially he can be a very powerful cavalry general...
