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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on May 23, 2020 14:41:45 GMT
Just from another post I reflected how bad tents are.
Using Medikits is more economical - and very much more effective!
An Army Tent (+6) costs 500π for the same price you get 20 medipacks M (or 40 mpS) - you can use themu in the same situations - but one medipack M brings your general (medipacks work also on every other troup!) directly back to the scene - the same health effect will take how many turns with a tent?
My conclusion: tents are trash - its much better to use from time to time a medikit and save your π
Am I wrong?
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Post by Darth Vader on May 23, 2020 14:53:11 GMT
Just from another post I reflected how bad tents are. Using Medikits is more economical - and very much more effective! An Army Tent (+6) costs 500π for the same price you get 20 medipacks M (or 40 mpS) - you can use themu in the same situations - but one medipack M brings your general (medipacks work also on every other troup!) directly back to the scene - the same health effect will take how many turns with a tent? My conclusion: tents are trash - its much better to use from time to time a medikit and save your π Am I wrong? No you are not. The tents are trash and also they only work outside a city. They should change to Add 10hp per round like status so atleast you can gain 20+hp or make 7% health regenerate like ew6. |
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on May 23, 2020 15:01:44 GMT
Just from another post I reflected how bad tents are. Using Medikits is more economical - and very much more effective! An Army Tent (+6) costs 500π for the same price you get 20 medipacks M (or 40 mpS) - you can use themu in the same situations - but one medipack M brings your general (medipacks work also on every other troup!) directly back to the scene - the same health effect will take how many turns with a tent? My conclusion: tents are trash - its much better to use from time to time a medikit and save your π Am I wrong? No you are not. The tents are trash and also they only work outside a city. They should change to Add 10hp per round like status so atleast you can gain 20+hp or make 7% health regenerate like ew6. They add situational +6 (500π) health - like a III city - a medipack L(12π) gives +50 (source ?) - in one round - tents are a waste ! |
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Post by Darth Vader on May 23, 2020 15:17:25 GMT
They add situational +6 (500π) health - like a III city - a medipack L(12π) gives +50 (source ?) - in one round - tents are a waste !I know they are, they shouldn't even exist. |
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on May 23, 2020 15:44:31 GMT
They add situational +6 (500π) health - like a III city - a medipack L(12π) gives +50 (source ?) - in one round - tents are a waste !I know they are, they shouldn't even exist. I never had one too. But (without generals) I started to use medipacks when useful - over all they still cost a fragment of a tent - but they have effect! - a tent not! - and you can juse it only on your squard. |
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Post by Darth Vader on May 23, 2020 15:50:59 GMT
I know they are, they shouldn't even exist. I never had one too. But (without generals) I started to use medipacks when useful - over all they still cost a fragment of a tent - but they have effect! - a tent not! - and you can juse it only on your squard. I bought a 2+ tent before, I saw no effect so I returned it. |
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Tents ?
May 29, 2020 3:37:12 GMT
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Post by littlecorporal on May 29, 2020 3:37:12 GMT
If you are only planning on playing a few games, I guess medpacks are better.
Most campaigns games are 20 rounds, and for the average full campaign, there are 15 scenarios. Even the lowly +2 tent will heal 20Γ15Γ2, 600 health. Over the 6 campaigns, that goes to 3600. You will probably spend at least half as many rounds in Conquest, so over the life of that tent, if you remember to use it, you can heal 5000 health.
Realistically the results appear limited, but if you use the +4 and +6 tents together, plus your generals nobility it adds up. Usually I finish a round with my most damaged general having a tent and a defense item.
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Post by littlecorporal on May 29, 2020 3:40:45 GMT
The army tent could provide 15000 in healing, the equivalent of 300 medpacks.
500οΌ300Γ12 or 3600
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on May 29, 2020 4:28:34 GMT
If you are only planning on playing a few games, I guess medpacks are better. Most campaigns games are 20 rounds, and for the average full campaign, there are 15 scenarios. Even the lowly +2 tent will heal 20Γ15Γ2, 600 health. Over the 6 campaigns, that goes to 3600. You will probably spend at least half as many rounds in Conquest, so over the life of that tent, if you remember to use it, you can heal 5000 health. Realistically the results appear limited, but if you use the +4 and +6 tents together, plus your generals nobility it adds up. Usually I finish a round with my most damaged general having a tent and a defense item. Your calculation is quite optimistic - there 82 missions (420/5) - IF you juse the tent let's say 12 rounds/mission (extreme optimistic - believe me) this will be β 1000* the healing effect. The problems are: Tents work only in a few situations: Only in rounds where you don't fight, didn't train or occupied a utility and don't stay in a utility (city / stable / fabric) they can work - probably - the effect is unnoticeable. With your +2 tent you can't use your general for 10 rounds to have the healing effect of 20HP (nothing) - the mission will be over. Staying in cities has a better healing effect. |
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Post by littlecorporal on May 29, 2020 5:22:35 GMT
I see your point, I never noticed that they don't work if you attack. Medkits also operate under the same parameters, i.e. can't train or attack.
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on May 29, 2020 9:47:58 GMT
I see your point, I never noticed that they don't work if you attack. Medkits also operate under the same parameters, i.e. can't train or attack. Exact! (And these moments are not so often) Medikits work also in utillies and on any other unit with a ingame General or without. And: they work instantly! A medikit S (12π) gives (I think so) β 50-75 HP - think about what a +6 tent will do (500π). AND: Your general is already on AI-turn strong enough to fight again! Don't get me wrong: Don't waste medikits! They are expensive! (medikit L anyway - I never used one). - Don't spend medikits in bad situations, But when you know you will finish the mission or conquest from this point on - then spend them if needed - and save directly after!!! If you load an older save or give up later, they are wasted. I used them mainly on ingame generals. Even defense items are not so useful - Snair Drum and Warhorse firstβ ...then necessary move items (you have to see which one is useful for your general - an OakWhell (Art move +1) will be enough for a long time - then good attack items ... medals are quickly finished - so save your money for the tent - use rarely a medikit instead is more economic and much more efficient in my point of view. |
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Tents ?
May 29, 2020 10:54:03 GMT
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Post by littlecorporal on May 29, 2020 10:54:03 GMT
One more point, LOL, you can always sell your tent back for the same price you paid.
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on May 29, 2020 15:58:34 GMT
One more point, LOL, you can always sell your tent back for the same price you paid. Yes ! With a 5β trader you are not charged. - ... and as long as you sell the items where you bought them - you can always buy them again! - The BlΓΌcher Sabre from Berlin I bought already more than five times - If I need medals my Goldie Arnold had to return it. |
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on May 29, 2020 16:02:33 GMT
They add situational +6 (500π) health - like a III city - a medipack L(12π) gives +50 (source ?) - in one round - tents are a waste !I know they are, they shouldn't even exist. Hello Darth Vader, as you are the fastest modder of the --- can you see how much health medikits in the original game give? - I'm really curious π€ |
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Post by Darth Vader on May 29, 2020 16:03:05 GMT
One more point, LOL, you can always sell your tent back for the same price you paid. Yes ! With a 5β trader you are not charged. - ... and as long as you sell the items where you bought them - you can always buy them again! - The BlΓΌcher Sabre from Berlin I bought already more than five times - If I need medals my Goldie Arnold had to return it. It would be cool if a general had 6 stars trade. Then I would gain more medals by selling items. |
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