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Post by Darth Nihilus on Jun 1, 2020 23:45:51 GMT
For general explanation, pls see Artillery General Tier List 1.0 here: european-war-4.boards.net/thread/12778/artillery-generals-tier-list-outdated
Edits (Special thanks to Darth Vader and Mr. Beast for their kind suggestions): - Moved Leeb to A tier (from B) - Moved Zhukov to C tier (from A)* - Moved Blamey and Chuikov to E tier (from D) - Moved Alexander to D tier (from E) *Zhukov is good on his own, but his value in the shop is $12.99 (CAD). You could buy 3780 medals with that money. "Bang for your buck" is a factor for consideration, thus Zhukov's overpricing (and his skills to an extent) place him in C tier. I am rating Yamamoto, Arnold, Dowding, and Graziani based on their situational usefulness. As attacking artillery generals they are all E tier at best. Note: Again, these generals are ranked based on their artillery usefulness only. Guderian would probably be in F- tier here. |
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Post by Mr. Beast on Jun 2, 2020 1:32:33 GMT
Now that's more accurate.  |
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Jun 3, 2020 9:02:31 GMT
Thanks for accepting my suggestion for Yamamoto too |
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Post by Sun Li-jen of the Glorious RoC on Jun 4, 2020 9:06:39 GMT
For general explanation, pls see Artillery General Tier List 1.0 here: european-war-4.boards.net/thread/12778/artillery-generals-tier-list-outdated
Edits (Special thanks to Darth Vader and Mr. Beast for their kind suggestions): - Moved Leeb to A tier (from B) - Moved Zhukov to C tier (from A)* - Moved Blamey and Chuikov to E tier (from D) - Moved Alexander to D tier (from E) *Zhukov is good on his own, but his value in the shop is $12.99 (CAD). You could buy 3780 medals with that money. "Bang for your buck" is a factor for consideration, thus Zhukov's overpricing (and his skills to an extent) place him in C tier. I am rating Yamamoto, Arnold, Dowding, and Graziani based on their situational usefulness. As attacking artillery generals they are all E tier at best. Note: Again, these generals are ranked based on their artillery usefulness only. Guderian would probably be in F- tier here. The absence of rumor (or empty space for rumor) is very significant, and I don't think air generals should be on this list as well. Anyways, here's my list (which I believe more accurate). 1. Konev 2. Leeb 3-5. (Not in order): Bradley, Govorov, Yamamoto 6. Zhukov 7. Zhang Z.Z. 8. Chuikov 9. Alexander 10. De Gaulle 11. Terauchi 12. Badoglio 13. Blamey |
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Post by Harry Lillis "Bing" Crosby Jr on Jun 4, 2020 9:42:29 GMT
You added Yamamoto in but booted Dowding out? Dont they have (about) the same skills and stars
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Post by Mr. Beast on Jun 4, 2020 14:05:32 GMT
You added Yamamoto in but booted Dowding out? Dont they have (about) the same skills and stars Probably because of the absense of rumor |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Jun 4, 2020 14:46:56 GMT
The absence of rumor (or empty space for rumor) is very significant, and I don't think air generals should be on this list as well. Anyways, here's my list (which I believe more accurate). 1. Konev 2. Leeb 3-5. (Not in order): Bradley, Govorov, Yamamoto 6. Zhukov 7. Zhang Z.Z. 8. Chuikov 9. Alexander 10. De Gaulle 11. Terauchi 12. Badoglio 13. Blamey Thanks for the suggestions. I'll consider updating my tier list again. However, there's a few things I would like to point out: Experimenting with Bradley, there's no way he should be in the top 5 tbh. He only has 4 artillery stars and one useful skill. Using him in the speedrun mode that Easytech provided gave him a maximum damage output of about 80-ish against light tanks. Zhukov does far better in that respect. Chuikov probably shouldn't be as high as 8th either. The only decent skill he has is Machinist level 1, which is useful on tanks, yes, but not on artillery since they usually get 3-shot anyway. I'd put him below Alexander, and frankly maybe even De Gaulle, who offers roughly the same output for 600 less medals. As for the other ones, I agree with most of them. I'll make a few small adjustments in Tier list 3.0 and see how that goes. I'll also adjust the point system. |
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Post by Mr. Beast on Jun 4, 2020 14:53:02 GMT
The absence of rumor (or empty space for rumor) is very significant, and I don't think air generals should be on this list as well. Anyways, here's my list (which I believe more accurate). 1. Konev 2. Leeb 3-5. (Not in order): Bradley, Govorov, Yamamoto 6. Zhukov 7. Zhang Z.Z. 8. Chuikov 9. Alexander 10. De Gaulle 11. Terauchi 12. Badoglio 13. Blamey Thanks for the suggestions. I'll consider updating my tier list again. However, there's a few things I would like to point out: Experimenting with Bradley, there's no way he should be in the top 5 tbh. He only has 4 artillery stars and one useful skill. Using him in the speedrun mode that Easytech provided gave him a maximum damage output of about 80-ish against light tanks. Zhukov does far better in that respect. Chuikov probably shouldn't be as high as 8th either. The only decent skill he has is Machinist level 1, which is useful on tanks, yes, but not on artillery since they usually get 3-shot anyway. I'd put him below Alexander, and frankly maybe even De Gaulle, who offers roughly the same output for 600 less medals. As for the other ones, I agree with most of them. I'll make a few small adjustments in Tier list 3.0 and see how that goes. I'll also adjust the point system. Yep. Zhukov is superior to Bradley and Govorov |
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Post by Sun Li-jen of the Glorious RoC on Jun 5, 2020 6:30:34 GMT
The absence of rumor (or empty space for rumor) is very significant, and I don't think air generals should be on this list as well. Anyways, here's my list (which I believe more accurate). 1. Konev 2. Leeb 3-5. (Not in order): Bradley, Govorov, Yamamoto 6. Zhukov 7. Zhang Z.Z. 8. Chuikov 9. Alexander 10. De Gaulle 11. Terauchi 12. Badoglio 13. Blamey Thanks for the suggestions. I'll consider updating my tier list again. However, there's a few things I would like to point out: Experimenting with Bradley, there's no way he should be in the top 5 tbh. He only has 4 artillery stars and one useful skill. Using him in the speedrun mode that Easytech provided gave him a maximum damage output of about 80-ish against light tanks. Zhukov does far better in that respect. Chuikov probably shouldn't be as high as 8th either. The only decent skill he has is Machinist level 1, which is useful on tanks, yes, but not on artillery since they usually get 3-shot anyway. I'd put him below Alexander, and frankly maybe even De Gaulle, who offers roughly the same output for 600 less medals. As for the other ones, I agree with most of them. I'll make a few small adjustments in Tier list 3.0 and see how that goes. I'll also adjust the point system. Oh sorry I didn't tell, my list only ranks generals' performance at their peak, not their cost effectivity. Bradley has accuracy which everyone him lacks, he also has mountain fighting to boost his damage output. Alexander with rumor is better off than de Gaulle in all aspects. Chuikov is definitely better than Alexander because mountain fighting is better than crossfire or artillery barrage, machinist is better than any of his skills, and raider is useless on artilleries. Pricewise Govorov is the 3rd best artillery, other options are not worthy. Anyways, you should NOT buy a third artillery, it'll disappoint you. |
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Post by Sun Li-jen of the Glorious RoC on Jun 5, 2020 6:37:43 GMT
The absence of rumor (or empty space for rumor) is very significant, and I don't think air generals should be on this list as well. Anyways, here's my list (which I believe more accurate). 1. Konev 2. Leeb 3-5. (Not in order): Bradley, Govorov, Yamamoto 6. Zhukov 7. Zhang Z.Z. 8. Chuikov 9. Alexander 10. De Gaulle 11. Terauchi 12. Badoglio 13. Blamey Thanks for the suggestions. I'll consider updating my tier list again. However, there's a few things I would like to point out: Experimenting with Bradley, there's no way he should be in the top 5 tbh. He only has 4 artillery stars and one useful skill. Using him in the speedrun mode that Easytech provided gave him a maximum damage output of about 80-ish against light tanks. Zhukov does far better in that respect. Chuikov probably shouldn't be as high as 8th either. The only decent skill he has is Machinist level 1, which is useful on tanks, yes, but not on artillery since they usually get 3-shot anyway. I'd put him below Alexander, and frankly maybe even De Gaulle, who offers roughly the same output for 600 less medals. As for the other ones, I agree with most of them. I'll make a few small adjustments in Tier list 3.0 and see how that goes. I'll also adjust the point system. By the way, I propose a new system of ranking which I personally use and it's very accurate. This system ranks generals based on their final form quality. So, imagine if you max up all his stars, rank, and skills, then if there's empty skill slot, add any skills you think will suit them the most to boost performance (usually rumor and something else depending on the general). Then rank their final form quality based on it. With this method you would be able to rank them by their maximum potentials, and thus you will get to the same list as I do. |
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Post by Mr. Beast on Jun 5, 2020 14:19:48 GMT
Thanks for the suggestions. I'll consider updating my tier list again. However, there's a few things I would like to point out: Experimenting with Bradley, there's no way he should be in the top 5 tbh. He only has 4 artillery stars and one useful skill. Using him in the speedrun mode that Easytech provided gave him a maximum damage output of about 80-ish against light tanks. Zhukov does far better in that respect. Chuikov probably shouldn't be as high as 8th either. The only decent skill he has is Machinist level 1, which is useful on tanks, yes, but not on artillery since they usually get 3-shot anyway. I'd put him below Alexander, and frankly maybe even De Gaulle, who offers roughly the same output for 600 less medals. As for the other ones, I agree with most of them. I'll make a few small adjustments in Tier list 3.0 and see how that goes. I'll also adjust the point system. By the way, I propose a new system of ranking which I personally use and it's very accurate. This system ranks generals based on their final form quality. So, imagine if you max up all his stars, rank, and skills, then if there's empty skill slot, add any skills you think will suit them the most to boost performance (usually rumor and something else depending on the general). Then rank their final form quality based on it. With this method you would be able to rank them by their maximum potentials, and thus you will get to the same list as I do. Yeah. That's a good idea. |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Jun 5, 2020 15:05:19 GMT
Thanks for the suggestions. I'll consider updating my tier list again. However, there's a few things I would like to point out: Experimenting with Bradley, there's no way he should be in the top 5 tbh. He only has 4 artillery stars and one useful skill. Using him in the speedrun mode that Easytech provided gave him a maximum damage output of about 80-ish against light tanks. Zhukov does far better in that respect. Chuikov probably shouldn't be as high as 8th either. The only decent skill he has is Machinist level 1, which is useful on tanks, yes, but not on artillery since they usually get 3-shot anyway. I'd put him below Alexander, and frankly maybe even De Gaulle, who offers roughly the same output for 600 less medals. As for the other ones, I agree with most of them. I'll make a few small adjustments in Tier list 3.0 and see how that goes. I'll also adjust the point system. By the way, I propose a new system of ranking which I personally use and it's very accurate. This system ranks generals based on their final form quality. So, imagine if you max up all his stars, rank, and skills, then if there's empty skill slot, add any skills you think will suit them the most to boost performance (usually rumor and something else depending on the general). Then rank their final form quality based on it. With this method you would be able to rank them by their maximum potentials, and thus you will get to the same list as I do. Oh, I see. Thank you very much for the suggestions. I'll use them in other tier lists. I'll also update this one soon I hope. |
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Post by Vietnamese on Jun 23, 2021 4:22:02 GMT
strange that zhukov isn't that bad, at least he should be on par with leeb
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