Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Oct 5, 2020 23:56:57 GMT
Who plays 1806 conquests?
I want to share experiences
I explain my excitement:
This is the Economy in R30 - both 900
--- Edit: Added 1809 FRA ---
A 20%-25% higher productivity on the 1806 map. This may sounds not so much, but it changes completely the requirements for Victoria.
1798 the economy is not this strong and achieving 3001π§ in round needs planning.
1806 even without extra care for the resources in R31 I had between 5500π§-9000π§ and overflow in R32-R35.
This means: A 1806 princess rush is very different:
1. Round 38 is the limit to achieve 850 years. Just for the economy: between R32-R38 , I got exactly 2 years per Round more!
2. You need more troops than 1798! This is no big problem: once your economy kicked in (βR15), you will have more than enough resources.
3. Fight with your allies!
The map is full of troops in the beginning.
I never seen the AI flanking. I believe AI doesn't know flanking at all: if you support your allies to flank, they have already an advantage - one important hit by the time, and often I even conquered the undefended city, it depends on the turn order! Otherwise I open cities for my ally (Spain), so they can occupy.
4. Your enemy has a lot of resources too. You have to defeat him in battle and economic:
As long, as I can't finally defeat a hostile country, I try to give him an undefended utility (a stable is perfect) and force him to build there at first a new defense. By the quality of the troops the AI builds, I can estimate how much resources he still has. I eliminate direct his investition. In this way he will be soon bankrott. Leave him a farm until his end: If AI has resources but no food (or no available utility to build troops), it will build forts.
With my maxed Princess:
- I achieved first with Ottoman 850y in R38.
France was too easy (with the experience of my Ottoman play), I could speed up my test and got 900y in R30-R32 without having planned this. ... and 850y up to R38.
My runs are not representative, but even not optimal. In mind that for a normal Victoria-run, 8 Rounds more are sufficient, I must assume that France 1806 is the far better conquest to achieve 850years compare to HRE 1798.
When I started a few months ago to figure out how exactly to achieve the last princess, it was unknown that Victoria will even appear after R31, even how the resources count was new.
This is my only explanation how the 1806 conquests where completely overssen. (but anyway, this is very strange after 5 years!)
- My R31 is not the target! Round 38 - full = Victoria
To have in 1806 enough resources in R38, was for me with France and Ottoman unavoidable, 38 rounds seem for me a lot - the map is even slightly smaller than 1798.
Is 1806 the better way to get Victoria?
Now I need the feedback of other players, please.
I want to share experiences
I explain my excitement:
This is the Economy in R30 - both 900
--- Edit: Added 1809 FRA ---
1798 HRE | 1806 FRA | 1809 FRA |
2048π° | 2102π° | 2451π° |
β436π§ | β600π§ | 681π§ |
1475π | 2070π | 2065π |
β 906 | β 1103 | β 1272 |
22654 | 27580 | 31795 |
A 20%-25% higher productivity on the 1806 map. This may sounds not so much, but it changes completely the requirements for Victoria.
1798 the economy is not this strong and achieving 3001π§ in round needs planning.
1806 even without extra care for the resources in R31 I had between 5500π§-9000π§ and overflow in R32-R35.
This means: A 1806 princess rush is very different:
1. Round 38 is the limit to achieve 850 years. Just for the economy: between R32-R38 , I got exactly 2 years per Round more!
2. You need more troops than 1798! This is no big problem: once your economy kicked in (βR15), you will have more than enough resources.
3. Fight with your allies!
The map is full of troops in the beginning.
I never seen the AI flanking. I believe AI doesn't know flanking at all: if you support your allies to flank, they have already an advantage - one important hit by the time, and often I even conquered the undefended city, it depends on the turn order! Otherwise I open cities for my ally (Spain), so they can occupy.
4. Your enemy has a lot of resources too. You have to defeat him in battle and economic:
As long, as I can't finally defeat a hostile country, I try to give him an undefended utility (a stable is perfect) and force him to build there at first a new defense. By the quality of the troops the AI builds, I can estimate how much resources he still has. I eliminate direct his investition. In this way he will be soon bankrott. Leave him a farm until his end: If AI has resources but no food (or no available utility to build troops), it will build forts.
With my maxed Princess:
- I achieved first with Ottoman 850y in R38.
France was too easy (with the experience of my Ottoman play), I could speed up my test and got 900y in R30-R32 without having planned this. ... and 850y up to R38.
My runs are not representative, but even not optimal. In mind that for a normal Victoria-run, 8 Rounds more are sufficient, I must assume that France 1806 is the far better conquest to achieve 850years compare to HRE 1798.
When I started a few months ago to figure out how exactly to achieve the last princess, it was unknown that Victoria will even appear after R31, even how the resources count was new.
This is my only explanation how the 1806 conquests where completely overssen. (but anyway, this is very strange after 5 years!)
- My R31 is not the target! Round 38 - full = Victoria
To have in 1806 enough resources in R38, was for me with France and Ottoman unavoidable, 38 rounds seem for me a lot - the map is even slightly smaller than 1798.
Is 1806 the better way to get Victoria?
Now I need the feedback of other players, please.