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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Oct 16, 2020 1:16:50 GMT
I haven't done a French 1809 Conquest, but just because you start with Rome (66/8) it makes me think it must be easy. It's an extra 2200 gold 280 iron over 35 turns. You have to conquer Spain and Portugal but start with 4 generals on the border. Denmark and Sweden are allied and Poland is strong. I will try it over the next few days. Last night I tried a very lazy test run of 1809. By Round 10 I already had Vienna, Berlin, Madrid, and Caligari and 500 iron in the bank. I think London is also possible, though I didn't get it. The only belligerent capitals missing we're St. Petersburg, Lisbon, and Belgrade. I've seen the map - France has potential and a good position, with trading in Rome. Ney and Lanes seem weal, but Napoleon is in top form. Nice progress with 25 Rounds left - and economy seems to develop on plan. A bit early, around 15-20 it becomes sure, but it looks really good. Portugal is hard, 09 France is again without fleet. You should keep a save at this stage. Now you don't know, when your stock will be full and which will be the last front {I believe Iberia) With 500-1000π§ and the knowledge where the finnish will be - a nice speedup save When you hire tavern generals, please notice their items, thank you. |
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Oct 16, 2020 7:04:20 GMT
Not yet. My team needs a bit more tweaking. But you still play EW4 fun-conquests? If you want and when you have time. Please Try for fun France 1806 - tell us how the resources develop, how the conquest feels, without goal 38 - to have your impressions will be great. Note:I can't complain about medal dropping in 1806. |
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Oct 16, 2020 15:53:17 GMT
Not yet. My team needs a bit more tweaking. But you still play EW4 fun-conquests? If you want and when you have time. Please Try for fun France 1806 - tell us how the resources develop, how the conquest feels, without goal 38 - to have your impressions will be great. Note:I can't complain about medal dropping in 1806. Tried it once. If you fail to achieve a swift and decisive victory in Germany, the Coalition spam will overrun you. The fight against Britain tends to bog down near London and the southern coast of England. |
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Oct 16, 2020 18:03:03 GMT
But you still play EW4 fun-conquests? If you want and when you have time. Please Try for fun France 1806 - tell us how the resources develop, how the conquest feels, without goal 38 - to have your impressions will be great. Note:I can't complain about medal dropping in 1806. Tried it once. If you fail to achieve a swift and decisive victory in Germany, the Coalition spam will overrun you. The fight against Britain tends to bog down near London and the southern coast of England. Interesting, thank you for your feedback. The landing in Britain need's a walkthrough guide - I see - this can be a big problem. I think littlecorporal found already the reliable way. The landing in south England is very difficult - we avoid it. I just played right now Russia, I can imagine what you mean.: 1806 economies, once full developed, are very productive and the AI will spend all in military after R30. In 1806 all countries start almost without resources and their economy is fragile. I will figure out, how to block their development efficiently. (On our tests with blue, there was no relevant coalition economy left after R20) Good points. This has to be guided... Work in progress - once the briefing is completed, I will tag you Nobunaga Oda, and thank you for your collaboration. |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Oct 17, 2020 10:52:19 GMT
Quick question: how good is it with the beginner lineup?
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Post by littlecorporal on Oct 17, 2020 13:26:38 GMT
Quick question: how good is it with the beginner lineup? Maybe tough. You have to punch through Prussia fast and hard, If not the red team starts spamming a lot of units. Just having a strong cav general makes a huge difference because they can one shot kill several of the enemy each round. |
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Oct 17, 2020 14:00:45 GMT
Quick question: how good is it with the beginner lineup? I can't test it now, my team is endgame. littlecorporal, he's far the best and experienced player for France 1798, tried it with a mid-game team and he confirmed that also for him: 1806 France is shorter and more easy than 1798 (More easy: I could finish 10 ! rounds earlier - 8 earlier 900years) This is the third conquest (1789 FR, 1775 US, 1806 FR, 1809...?) We assume the third conquest with the third campaign - and with 235/420 the campaign bonus finishes (must be around end of HRE) When you start your third conquest (area) 1806, to get Victoria and who else is still missing, you should have already the first class princess, Kate and Sakurako, and probably Isabella Victoria needs resources, but 1798 was economically a very bad year, the 1798 hasn't enough resources. Around 25% more resources in 1806 - primary π§ are the (big) difference. Even Russia and Ottoman gave 850 in R38 but not as easy as France - I was searching exact this, since I understood the years calculation. And like always: so obvious and simple - after being pointed outWith my full campaign up to R40 I get 550 years for Asia. I am sure this is the original scripted mainstream storyline to get the princess.For player without board: how to find out that a HRE98 absurd fast can give eben Lan and Victoria. Playing the French (Napoleon) conquests is more likely: And with a mediocre (not beginner) conquest 1806 Victoria appears up to R38 - easy like Sophia. Lan up to Round 40, depending on your progress. ..... programmed for best gaming experience ..... |
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Oct 17, 2020 15:11:06 GMT
Quick question: how good is it with the beginner lineup? Maybe tough. You have to punch through Prussia fast and hard, If not the red team starts spamming a lot of units. Just having a strong cav general makes a huge difference because they can one shot kill several of the enemy each round. I use 2 cavalry, 1 Artillery Lan from start, and for the weaker (Sakurako or Sophia) I build an AC! in Prague. In 1806, if possible - (even one round later) a double AC (for Sophia necessary!) - this is the best weapon against all the weak spam. This time, I could build it early, but I prefer waiting up to R15 to have one. IMO it pays out. 5 and more units per turn in the beginning are ususal, but the map is quickly empty. NO FORTS! Yes tough - and fast hitting the enemy economy. Until you get Vienna and Berlin, missingπ° is the problem. With the exchange and all pending upgrades - three rounds later the economy takes off. Prussia and Austria collapse and for Russia is this the time of stagnation. Getting Berlin and Vienna are important key points but not very difficult to conquer. Vienna is only partly and without general defended and for Berlin we join the attack of Rhine. I just start landing in Britain, north of London. A big armawaits us... |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Oct 18, 2020 16:34:44 GMT
Sounds like 1798 HRE is still the best pick then. I personally wouldn't call a rushing conquest beginner friendly if it requires the elite princesses. I'm gonna see if my friends still feel like playing EW4 since I'm not that good a player myself. Maybe they'll give me some good feedback.
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Post by littlecorporal on Oct 19, 2020 0:04:34 GMT
Sounds like 1798 HRE is still the best pick then. I personally wouldn't call a rushing conquest beginner friendly if it requires the elite princesses. I'm gonna see if my friends still feel like playing EW4 since I'm not that good a player myself. Maybe they'll give me some good feedback. I don't think getting Victoria is a beginners task, you should be pretty far along in the game. Regardless of your team, 1806 should be an easier run than 1798, because the overall economy is so much stronger. |
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Oct 19, 2020 15:59:22 GMT
Sounds like 1798 HRE is still the best pick then. I personally wouldn't call a rushing conquest beginner friendly if it requires the elite princesses. I'm gonna see if my friends still feel like playing EW4 since I'm not that good a player myself. Maybe they'll give me some good feedback. I don't think getting Victoria is a beginners task, you should be pretty far along in the game. Regardless of your team, 1806 should be an easier run than 1798, because the overall economy is so much stronger. Beginners task no! Up to 235 campaign and the Headquarter bonus are two factors that make it practical impossible to get so Victoria early. Midgame France 1806 in 38 rounds is not complicate at this stage. Around R30 is common. 1798 the economy was weak historical: Not one country has a production to save the necessary 2000π°500π§1500π. Big countries in 1806 produce more! - they profit from the R32-R38 part of the formula we found. (Answer please, if you don't see the hint) For this reason I was so sure, that there is a economy way to get Victoria. In the beginning of this year, when I started, all the factors were not well known and so HRE the only possibility. With Ottoman and Russia I got also 850years in 1806. I assumed the economic way will be the easier task manageable without any guide. I need more feedback - for me it is ages easier to win FR06 in R38 (even in R30 !) than a HRE98 in R31. Unbelievable easierFor me finally, even the Victoria hunting is Player friendly like everything in else EW4. HRE is one very extreme possibility, that make Victoria possible in 1798, but not the typical, easy path, EasyTech designed for EW4. |
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Oct 25, 2020 21:18:22 GMT
France 1806 Arnold only 1806 is no speed-run necessary. You don't need special generals - with a mid game team an easy walk - but different. I started a new game a few days ago (62/420β), fresh Arnold 40-0, Saddle & pistol from the shop 2π - nothing! else. Trying to arrive in R31 - I spent to much [full:r39 (+1)] - Arnold R33But: - just without the running pressure an easy ending in R36 and the stock was full R37 (-1) Arnold on target R36Only Arnold gave: 650/200years, I will add more nobility, to see where I arrive. Tbc
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Oct 28, 2020 23:08:11 GMT
Sounds like 1798 HRE is still the best pick then. I personally wouldn't call a rushing conquest beginner friendly if it requires the elite princesses. I'm gonna see if my friends still feel like playing EW4 since I'm not that good a player myself. Maybe they'll give me some good feedback. 1806 France, requires only a 5β trader. I did with a new game a 1806 conquest, just with Arnold. I got even Isabella and Sakurako, but with only 67/420β I need 4000π§ more than after 235/420, so I will test it with Arnold and two untrained princess soon again. Why to finish with a full stock?If you can't finish within R31: from R31-R38 the required resources raise on average! 3840 (960π§) this is with exchange: 2000π° 500π§ 1500π If you can save more - finishing later gives a higher score - until your stock is full.
You can call it an coincidence - I think it's the key:
The exception is Round 31! - Here you get the same higher bonus like in R30
... and it adds 100 required resources extra.
Stretch the raise to R30 makes the steps instead 960π§: 832.5π§ - exact this! is the linear rise from R30 to R45 (end of tests) with the one exception in R31 (speedrun).
All numbers, so easy explained ...
comment please
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Post by pathdoc on Oct 30, 2020 11:38:30 GMT
ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ, thanks for all the hints. I am, as you know, done with speed-running, but some of the stuff here is useful information that I hadn't fully realized or absorbed (e.g. conquering taverns to stop the enemy from using them). With not needing princesses or powerful expensive generals, and with all the medals I can get from watching the ads, I have no hesitation about spamming Tavern generals myself. I should do it more often.
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Nov 11, 2020 21:27:39 GMT
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