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Post by ray on Nov 20, 2020 23:19:06 GMT
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Post by idunnowhattocallthis on Nov 23, 2020 19:26:10 GMT
I think Katyusha is Best.
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Post by Alexyx on Nov 23, 2020 23:09:53 GMT
I think Katyusha is Best. Katyusha and Elephant are both great. Karl is a scouting heavy artillery
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Post by stoic on Nov 24, 2020 10:38:55 GMT
I have only one fully upgraded special force and it is Katyusha, but it alone was enough to complete two first theatres of war in United front mode. It is simply great now, since it combines two great features of artillery - long range and mass attacks. When deployed our troops will never loose it if not absolutely careless
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Jan 5, 2021 17:49:11 GMT
A - Katyusha - Best Arty, and, as stoic has said, combines long range (3.5-ish) with the potential for mass attacks ( capable of having three hits), it fulfills artillery's purpose in life, and I a sure there are many Katyusha rockets in artillery heaven. Best perk in game. A-minus - Elefant - Between this and the Katyusha, Bombs. Put Leeb on this and Govorov on the other, and you have a butt-ton of damage. Combines the best things of Heavy artillery and tanks, and has a decent defense stat. Awesone stats and Perks. B - Mortar Karl - Amazing scout with around the same Range as the Katyusha, it is painfully slow. If it was faster and it's second perk was changed, it would be better than rocket boy though. As is, amazing, great damage, wonderful availability. C - M12- GMC - Good all-rounder, Has decent Perks, has decent stats. I give it a "big thumbs up" ( if you don't understand this, I pity your childhood)
D - Maresal - Great Arty Killer, but not much good at most other things, still capable though. Reminds me of the firebat from *shudder* GOG2.
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Post by eeeeef on Jan 5, 2021 17:55:55 GMT
A - Katyusha - Best Arty, and, as stoic has said, combines long range (3.5-ish) with the potential for mass attacks ( capable of having three hits), it fulfills artillery's purpose in life, and I a sure there are many Katyusha rockets in artillery heaven. Best perk in game. A-minus - Elefant - Between this and the Katyusha, Bombs. Put Leeb on this and Govorov on the other, and you have a butt-ton of damage. Combines the best things of Heavy artillery and tanks, and has a decent defense stat. Awesone stats and Perks. B - Mortar Karl - Amazing scout with around the same Range as the Katyusha, it is painfully slow. If it was faster and it's second perk was changed, it would be better than rocket boy though. As is, amazing, great damage, wonderful availability. C - M12- GMC - Good all-rounder, Has decent Perks, has decent stats. I give it a "big thumbs up" ( if you don't understand this, I pity your childhood)
D - Maresal - Great Arty Killer, but not much good at most other things, still capable though. Reminds me of the firebat from *shudder* GOG2. I understood that reference!! The pig one not the firebat one.
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Jan 5, 2021 18:34:12 GMT
Gerd von Rundstedt, I agree with you on all accounts. You're probably thinking of the Firebat from EW6:1914, rather than the GOG2 Firebats/Flamethrowers. The Katyusha's splash dmg and the Elefant's high chance to strike again takes first place. When used defensively, the Karl is a highly valuable asset that puts it in 2nd place. Its slow movement and the tricky 1st ability makes it useless in offensive operations unless you are besieging a stationary target. The M12 is a good choice with its two abilities. Sadly, splash dmg and high chances for repeated attacks outweigh them. The Maresal has a more rare use because of its first ability. My least preferred choice no matter what, unless I'm surrounded by mountains.
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Post by SolidLight on Jan 5, 2021 19:24:25 GMT
I like pretty much all of the Heavy arty special forces. They all have abilities that I think are beneficial to a noticable degree so I don’t think any of them are outright bad. Unfortunately we don’t get a lot of heavy artillery in missions themselves and Katyusha and Elefant are massively superior to all the others in sheer damage output, so those are best. Plus Katyusha is fast.
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Post by Ralyks on Jan 5, 2021 20:29:26 GMT
I have shared feelings on my favorite, between Katyusha and Elefant.
I'd had some trouble having to decide which to put my top tier gen in. Luckily though, they belong to different factions, so it makes it very easy. My top art gen will go on heavy infantry and I'll give him Katyusha if on Allies (Govorov) and Elefant if on Axis (Leeb).
The extra damage on armored (with tanks and specially heavy tanks that should be the main artillery focus) plus the chance to reset makes the Elefant very good choice. However it has a flaw which is it lacks the extra point on sight range most of the other give, this meaning that it has to rely on some other troop vision for it to fully utilize their max range.
Katyusha on the other hand goes very well when near a KV-6, as its aoe hit will allow KV-6 greater reseting chance. It has the highest speed, has that extra vision point and its only flaw is that it only has a single skill (unless you consider "higher chance of creating the attacked tile to burn one)
The last on in the podium is the Karl, while the slowest, it has the highest possible attack range, sight range and base damage. Not very good on mountainous, snowy or river maps as it may struggle to catch up (as heavy art is also the slowest troop) but it excels in defense scenarios and missions that do not allow you to advance fast as there's lot of enemies. Anti-air is a meh bonus, low value (30%) and only for himself. I wish it had higher value or that it covered an extra tile around him.
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Post by reggiane2005 on Mar 15, 2021 11:41:12 GMT
Ok let's rank 1)Reaktnivnyj Snarjad 132 "Katjuša":Nothing to say,Perfect(some people say that if you sing the song of the same name while using it it does double the damage) 2)Panzerjäger Tiger (P) Elefant:Tank killer,used with Leeb it can devastate enemy armored troops 3)Maresal:one of the reasons why I love heavy artillery and why they can hit enemy artillery without being hit, considering also that I have a crazy fear of enemy artillery this unit is for me, it is also fast 4)Karl-Gerät:incredibly strong attack, however it is very slow making it only useful for the army group (where it excels) if the second bonus was replaced with a bonus against cities it would be better 5)M12-GMC:unlocks late, and abilities aren't very special
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Post by Amazing on Mar 24, 2021 18:51:20 GMT
You're only going to max Katyusha because its so much better than the GMC.
Please max Elefant. Its incredible. Don't be like me. I did Karl first. Huge Mistake. Karl is incredible for United Front though so I guess there is that.
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Post by theboyeedj on Mar 30, 2021 23:19:23 GMT
I've grown to love the Karl in tandem with the Katyusha, especially in United Front. I plugged away and upgraded the Elefant first because I preferred the extra mobility. The Karl though excels in defensive battles. That extra square and range is so, so useful. Karl and Leeb is a great combo on Fortress Plan in Western Front.
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Post by Port on Mar 30, 2021 23:20:54 GMT
I've grown to love the Karl in tandem with the Katyusha, especially in United Front. I plugged away and upgraded the Elefant first because I preferred the extra mobility. The Karl though excels in defensive battles. That extra square and range is so, so useful. Karl and Leeb is a great combo on Fortress Plan in Western Front. Elefant is like a machine gun though.
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Post by theboyeedj on Mar 30, 2021 23:27:46 GMT
I've grown to love the Karl in tandem with the Katyusha, especially in United Front. I plugged away and upgraded the Elefant first because I preferred the extra mobility. The Karl though excels in defensive battles. That extra square and range is so, so useful. Karl and Leeb is a great combo on Fortress Plan in Western Front. Elefant is like a machine gun though. I see that but being able to hit at extra length is just so useful in defensive positions. Great against destroyers too (especially at height). I've just really started to appreciate Karl and Katyusha together. It's devastating.
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Post by Port on Mar 30, 2021 23:28:21 GMT
Elefant is like a machine gun though. I see that but being able to hit at extra length is just so useful in defensive positions. Great against destroyers too (especially at height). I've just really started to appreciate Karl and Katyusha together. It's devastating. But that doesn't happen often.
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