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Post by yuanzhong on Jan 6, 2021 4:43:24 GMT
A++ Maus- Wicked power and ridiculous defense- 6(!). If I remember correctly, the standard defense of a heavy tank is 5, which means that it takes 70.6% damage. I call that good! Only problem is speed and lame perks. A+ T-28- Great stats, is fast, has mostly usable perks that are somewhat better than the Maus's, but has no vision, which puts it below the Maus. A KV-6- Worst stats, but the best perk of the game. Reminds you of the Choice in WC4 Between A Sgt with no stars but Has Lv 5 Rumor, A Marshal with no stars and Lv 3 Rumor, and A Sgt with 6 stars in everything and no skills. In united front mode where the ability of special forces shine mostly in the game IMO, KV-6 is godlike. it doesn't affraid anything enemy throws to you, can kill artillery or heavy tank by hitting beside unit to avoid retaliation, can kill heavy artillery by near attack. I affraid facing Roko in KV6 more than Rommel or Guderian in Maus, it's the most annoying thing when you don't have Heavy artillery in your team in that case. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Jan 6, 2021 13:58:15 GMT
I'll make a new analysis in light of eye-opening experiences.  A - KV-6 - A beast in United Front, the best with a gen on, and has amazing ability to attack again with its rocket reset. However, it has the worst stats of the heavy tanks. B-plus - Maus - Best stats, with niche skills that are useless most of the time. Has ridiculous defense and attack. (Like Having a 3* gen on it) B-minus - T-28 - Slightly usable skills, mainly a defensive tank, great for the likes of Monty. Good all-rounder in terms of skills vs stats. Edit: Because of the statistics Ralyks has shared about the Maus, I shall put the T-28 Slightly above it. The Maus is still useful in axis defense scenarios, but it has awful perks, and is really only useful in its niche role and is not worth pouring assault badges into. |
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Post by Ralyks on Jan 6, 2021 14:04:37 GMT
A++ Maus- Wicked power and ridiculous defense- 6(!). If I remember correctly, the standard defense of a heavy tank is 5, which means that it takes 70.6% damage. I call that good! Only problem is speed and lame perks. A+ T-28- Great stats, is fast, has mostly usable perks that are somewhat better than the Maus's, but has no vision, which puts it below the Maus. A KV-6- Worst stats, but the best perk of the game. Reminds you of the Choice in WC4 Between A Sgt with no stars but Has Lv 5 Rumor, A Marshal with no stars and Lv 3 Rumor, and A Sgt with 6 stars in everything and no skills. In united front mode where the ability of special forces shine mostly in the game IMO, KV-6 is godlike. it doesn't affraid anything enemy throws to you, can kill artilery or heavy tank by hitting beside unit to avoid retaliation, can kill heavy artilery by near attack. I affraid facing Roko in KV6 more than Rommel or Guderian in Maus, it's the most annoying thing when you don't have Heavy artilery in your team in that case. I strongly agree with yuanzhong and consider KV-6 the strongest. Indeed Maus is not so scary or fearsome when spotted on an enemy general like KV-6 is, as your ally will not be wary on positioning troops properly to avoid its aoe attacks and counterattacks, meaning they take more damage, and although AI does not aim to reset on tanks, it hitting on 2-3 targets on every attack makes resetting on them more common.
Sure, having the most armor is nice, but heavy tanks already have the highest armor of all troops, and the higher you already have it, the less it matters an extra defense point you get. So it is way more valuable having extra sight range, extra movement speed and better skill than an extra 2 armor. Literally that extra 2 armor on a fully maxed Maus gives an extra 2.7% damage reduction compared to a fully maxed KV-6 (58.3% vs 61% damage taken), which offers very little value.
Because like I said before, both Maus skills are rarely triggered, my ratings for heavy tanks is KV-6, then T28 (which has a decent first skill and a situational second one) and finally the Maus.
I really wish we had some extra heavy tanks though, considering the current ones didn't exist (KV-6) or never saw combat action (Maus and T28). I'm heavily surprised OI was not added when the Axis only have one: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O-I_super-heavy_tank
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Jan 11, 2021 15:15:53 GMT
My guide after using the Maus and KV-6 extensively, sans ABC ratings. Maus- Powerhouse with about the same mobility as a House. Will wreck any enemy troops in army group defense, or really any defense scenario. Morale perk could be useful . . . Maybe if you are a noob player like me. However, the first skill is tricky to use and is mainly for a not-noob, so one skill really isn't useful. Excellent attack, and despite Ralyks's eye opening stats, the best defense of any unit in the game. Recomended mainly because of the fact that it is the only axis heavy tank. T-28- Potential for a second tank gen troop. The slightly-better-skill-with-worse-stats Maus of the allies. Mildly recommended. KV-6- Very good for a general, with Meh stats but a great perk, I prefer the T-28 or the Maus when none are paired with a general, but with, say Manstein, Rommel, Roko, Monty, or really any other general, the KV-6 will dominate any other choice in the game (Except for Maybe Zhukov in a Katyusha). |
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Post by kanue on Jan 11, 2021 16:15:57 GMT
Maus- Powerhouse with about the same mobility as a House. lol.  |
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Post by Ralyks on Jan 11, 2021 19:55:32 GMT
Bonus defense is best when defense is little. But heavy tanks have the most, meaning extra defense is less valuable than on any other troop, that's why reaching such high values in defense is just overvalued, better have them on extra damage, sight range or extra movement, as those stats are utilized completely without any penalties.
None are bad, as they give extra stats to the strongest troop, which helps with resets and enhances further their performance, though I still hold my POV. But its a shame there are only 3, even after the update.
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Post by reggiane2005 on Mar 15, 2021 15:07:37 GMT
Ok
1)KV6:no explanations are needed
2)T28:unlocked late but is very fast
3)Maus:is slow,nothing to say
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Post by Port on Mar 15, 2021 15:52:42 GMT
In united front mode where the ability of special forces shine mostly in the game IMO, KV-6 is godlike. it doesn't affraid anything enemy throws to you, can kill artilery or heavy tank by hitting beside unit to avoid retaliation, can kill heavy artilery by near attack. I affraid facing Roko in KV6 more than Rommel or Guderian in Maus, it's the most annoying thing when you don't have Heavy artilery in your team in that case. I strongly agree with yuanzhong and consider KV-6 the strongest. Indeed Maus is not so scary or fearsome when spotted on an enemy general like KV-6 is, as your ally will not be wary on positioning troops properly to avoid its aoe attacks and counterattacks, meaning they take more damage, and although AI does not aim to reset on tanks, it hitting on 2-3 targets on every attack makes resetting on them more common.
Sure, having the most armor is nice, but heavy tanks already have the highest armor of all troops, and the higher you already have it, the less it matters an extra defense point you get. So it is way more valuable having extra sight range, extra movement speed and better skill than an extra 2 armor. Literally that extra 2 armor on a fully maxed Maus gives an extra 2.7% damage reduction compared to a fully maxed KV-6 (58.3% vs 61% damage taken), which offers very little value.
Because like I said before, both Maus skills are rarely triggered, my ratings for heavy tanks is KV-6, then T28 (which has a decent first skill and a situational second one) and finally the Maus.
I really wish we had some extra heavy tanks though, considering the current ones didn't exist (KV-6) or never saw combat action (Maus and T28). I'm heavily surprised OI was not added when the Axis only have one: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O-I_super-heavy_tank
I cracked the special forces code. Every medium tank special force (except for the panther and the 44m TAS) were heavy tanks, and all the heavy tank Special forces were Super Tanks. |
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Post by metalleater on Sept 20, 2021 22:40:44 GMT
In united front mode where the ability of special forces shine mostly in the game IMO, KV-6 is godlike. it doesn't affraid anything enemy throws to you, can kill artilery or heavy tank by hitting beside unit to avoid retaliation, can kill heavy artilery by near attack. I affraid facing Roko in KV6 more than Rommel or Guderian in Maus, it's the most annoying thing when you don't have Heavy artilery in your team in that case. I strongly agree with yuanzhong and consider KV-6 the strongest. Indeed Maus is not so scary or fearsome when spotted on an enemy general like KV-6 is, as your ally will not be wary on positioning troops properly to avoid its aoe attacks and counterattacks, meaning they take more damage, and although AI does not aim to reset on tanks, it hitting on 2-3 targets on every attack makes resetting on them more common.
Sure, having the most armor is nice, but heavy tanks already have the highest armor of all troops, and the higher you already have it, the less it matters an extra defense point you get. So it is way more valuable having extra sight range, extra movement speed and better skill than an extra 2 armor. Literally that extra 2 armor on a fully maxed Maus gives an extra 2.7% damage reduction compared to a fully maxed KV-6 (58.3% vs 61% damage taken), which offers very little value.
Because like I said before, both Maus skills are rarely triggered, my ratings for heavy tanks is KV-6, then T28 (which has a decent first skill and a situational second one) and finally the Maus.
I really wish we had some extra heavy tanks though, considering the current ones didn't exist (KV-6) or never saw combat action (Maus and T28). I'm heavily surprised OI was not added when the Axis only have one: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O-I_super-heavy_tank
Cool! Can u tell me the formula, how does the unit's defence affect the damage reduction? |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Sept 20, 2021 23:01:37 GMT
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Post by John Marston on Sept 22, 2021 16:55:31 GMT
I used to love KV6, until I found (and upgraded) Maus. It's damage is insane.
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Sept 22, 2021 17:28:52 GMT
I used to love KV6, until I found (and upgraded) Maus. It's damage is insane. For certain the KV-6 is better with a general, but then again, axis tankers are much better than allied tankers, I would say they are around equal, the Maus better with no gen. |
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Post by Boss Tweed on Sept 22, 2021 18:50:00 GMT
How does E-100 rank with the rest of them?
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Sept 22, 2021 19:12:21 GMT
How does E-100 rank with the rest of them? Very slightly worse than the KV-6 when Rommel is on either, but without a gen (or with Guderian or in an Axis Campaign), then the best in the game. Also a lot worse than the French one. |
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