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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Dec 7, 2020 14:15:37 GMT
I am currently trying to persuade my brother that Grazi is better than Roko now that he has Rommel, Nimitz, Guderian, and Koniev. How could I persuade him that I am right (or, I suppose, that he is)?
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Post by eeeeef on Dec 7, 2020 14:24:24 GMT
I am currently trying to persuade my brother that Grazi is better than Roko now that he has Rommel, Nimitz, Guderian, and Koniev. How could I persuade him that I am right (or, I suppose, that he is)? Roll a charisma check
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Dec 7, 2020 14:35:23 GMT
I am currently trying to persuade my brother that Grazi is better than Roko now that he has Rommel, Nimitz, Guderian, and Koniev. How could I persuade him that I am right (or, I suppose, that he is)? Roll a charisma check What is that?
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Post by eeeeef on Dec 7, 2020 14:59:15 GMT
Roll a charisma check What is that? Well I guess my reference fell flat on its face..
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Post by Sun Li-jen of the Glorious RoC on Dec 8, 2020 0:36:22 GMT
I just sold Rokossovsky recently, he doesn't have special potential like Graziani's machinist. And I'm going to replace him with Monty.
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Dec 10, 2020 9:00:37 GMT
I am currently trying to persuade my brother that Grazi is better than Roko now that he has Rommel, Nimitz, Guderian, and Koniev. How could I persuade him that I am right (or, I suppose, that he is)? Rokossovsky's main feature is his output which gives him the edge. Even when he's dying, his Tide of Iron will improve his output slightly. His hiring cost covers the cost for a few more stars in Movement, Inf (?), arty, Navy and starting wise. This makes him a better bargain than Graziani. For those who prefer lower output, but better survivability, Graziani is better. I'm not a fan of Graziani so I can't say much for him beyond this.
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Dec 10, 2020 9:23:57 GMT
I am currently trying to persuade my brother that Grazi is better than Roko now that he has Rommel, Nimitz, Guderian, and Koniev. How could I persuade him that I am right (or, I suppose, that he is)? Rokossovsky's main feature is his output which gives him the edge. Even when he's dying, his Tide of Iron will improve his output slightly. His hiring cost covers the cost for a few more stars in Movement, Inf (?), arty, Navy and starting wise. This makes him a better bargain than Graziani. For those who prefer lower output, but better survivability, Graziani is better. I'm not a fan of Graziani so I can't say much for him beyond this. Same here. Rokossovsky is one of the better damage dealers in the game that can also hold blitzkrieg. Can't say I appreciate that 15 hp per turn that much.
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Post by tristanknight on Dec 10, 2020 11:33:27 GMT
I am currently trying to persuade my brother that Grazi is better than Roko now that he has Rommel, Nimitz, Guderian, and Koniev. How could I persuade him that I am right (or, I suppose, that he is)? If he's looking for survivability, Graziani is the one. If he's looking for better firepower, Rokossovsky would be the one. I've played as Cuba 1950 for example, while escaping to Brazil and holding ground against spam and air attacks, Graziani always outlasts my other generals. And by spam, I mean from everywhere. I've even had Cuban conquests where a Japanese naval general came all the way to Brazil đ If I had to list all tank generals by their effectiveness: 1) Manstein 2) Guderian 3) Graziani 4) Rommel 5) Rokossovsky 6) Montgomery
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Post by journeykeen on Dec 10, 2020 12:39:16 GMT
I just sold Rokossovsky recently, he doesn't have special potential like Graziani's machinist. And I'm going to replace him with Monty. I get the whole Graziani thing, but replacing Rokko with Monty makes no sense.
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Post by Sun Li-jen of the Glorious RoC on Dec 10, 2020 13:03:45 GMT
I just sold Rokossovsky recently, he doesn't have special potential like Graziani's machinist. And I'm going to replace him with Monty. I get the whole Graziani thing, but replacing Rokko with Monty makes no sense. Why not? Plain fighting is more reliable than panzer leader, so is crossfire compared to tide of iron. Monty also has 5 air stars potential.
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Dec 10, 2020 14:15:37 GMT
In a mod, I have found that Grazi works for me, but my brother is a bit . . . irrational. He chooses a team partially for aesthetics, and it irritates the heck out of me. He wants Roko because it would be nice to have generals that have no hybrid capabilities, even if they are not the best option.
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Post by journeykeen on Dec 11, 2020 2:05:53 GMT
I get the whole Graziani thing, but replacing Rokko with Monty makes no sense. Why not? Plain fighting is more reliable than panzer leader, so is crossfire compared to tide of iron. Monty also has 5 air stars potential. Crossfire yes. Plain no. Leader and assault are critical to tank generalsâ damage.
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Post by tristanknight on Dec 11, 2020 6:40:19 GMT
Why not? Plain fighting is more reliable than panzer leader, so is crossfire compared to tide of iron. Monty also has 5 air stars potential. Crossfire yes. Plain no. Leader and assault are critical to tank generalsâ damage. Monty is a defensive general so one could add street fighting and rumor or panzer for extra firepower. And someone said street and plain stack because the city is considered plains. So perhaps in Monty's case he's not really sacrificing much firepower if those two skills stack. He's already got crossfire as well. I tried him in a mod and tbh I was impressed by him even though I was doubtful of his ability. I am currently considering getting him.
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Dec 11, 2020 12:26:33 GMT
I get the whole Graziani thing, but replacing Rokko with Monty makes no sense. Why not? Plain fighting is more reliable than panzer leader, so is crossfire compared to tide of iron. Monty also has 5 air stars potential. Leader has higher potential. It adds 125% damage with medal or 50% without it, and it enjoys the AA bonus. PF is consistent but you can never expect miracles. Considering the chance of Leader is 60% with medals I think it is worth the risk.
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Post by journeykeen on Dec 12, 2020 0:36:38 GMT
Crossfire yes. Plain no. Leader and assault are critical to tank generalsâ damage. Monty is a defensive general so one could add street fighting and rumor or panzer for extra firepower. And someone said street and plain stack because the city is considered plains. So perhaps in Monty's case he's not really sacrificing much firepower if those two skills stack. He's already got crossfire as well. I tried him in a mod and tbh I was impressed by him even though I was doubtful of his ability. I am currently considering getting him. If you have access to this mod can you provide data with this and I will share maxed Rokko data?
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