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Post by Jean Lannes on Mar 15, 2016 4:04:35 GMT
I will take Oudinot over Doblen or Suvorov any time even thou he does not have a snare drum which is the mass fire ability he is still somebody to be feared. If you are ok with constantly switching items then mass fire is not that much needed |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Mar 15, 2016 4:27:43 GMT
i dont use the snare drum i just use my for generals as shock troops and then retreat them and then send in the cavalry to finish up or mop up.I wish there was an item that could grant a player the leadership ability.
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Post by Jean Lannes on Mar 15, 2016 21:48:48 GMT
i dont use the snare drum i just use my for generals as shock troops and then retreat them and then send in the cavalry to finish up or mop up.I wish there was an item that could grant a player the leadership ability. but having a replacement for almost every skill would be a problem as some general just won't be as good |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Mar 15, 2016 21:54:56 GMT
true a good general that would be good with leadership would be Oudinot and Isabella.
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Mar 15, 2016 23:01:51 GMT
I will take Oudinot over Doblen or Suvorov any time even thou he does not have a snare drum which is the mass fire ability he is still somebody to be feared. Suvorov has all of Oudinot's skills and more. If you ignore the price tag, why would you pick Oudinot over Suvorov? |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Mar 16, 2016 0:01:38 GMT
Jean-Luc Picard,In real history Oudinot was one of Napoleons best marshals he was wounded 34 times in battle the most of many generals i think. and so was Micheal Ney and also the same goes for Berthier he was Napoleons chief of staff for most of his campaigns the only time he was not Napoleons chief of staff was during the hundred days aka The Battle of Waterloo i think if Berthier had been chief of staff for the hundred days Napolean could had fared better.I like the Napoleonic Wars i have read a lot about them and also the Duke of Wellington AKA Wellesly is a medicore general in the game and in reality he also suck in my opinion. Napoleon is better then him by 100 times. Napoleon revolutionize the way we wage war.And also Marmont the artillery general was a traitor he betrayed Napolean.
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Mar 16, 2016 0:13:01 GMT
Jean-Luc Picard,In real history Oudinot was one of Napoleons best marshals he was wounded 34 times in battle the most of many generals i think. and so was Micheal Ney and also the same goes for Berthier he was Napoleons chief of staff for most of his campaigns the only time he was not Napoleons chief of staff was during the hundred days aka The Battle of Waterloo i think if Berthier had been chief of staff for the hundred days Napolean could had fared better.I like the Napoleonic Wars i have read a lot about them and also the Duke of Wellington AKA Wellesly is a medicore general in the game and in reality he also suck in my opinion. Napoleon is better then him by 100 times. Napoleon revolutionize the way we wage war.And also Marmont the artillery general was a traitor he betrayed Napolean. 1. I asked about Oudinot vs Suvorov in game, not about your (impressive) knowledge of the Marshals. 2. Wellington was a skilled field commander in RL, Easytech didn't do him justice 3. Grouchy was responsible for the defeat at Waterloo, not the absence of Berthier. Soult, although not Berthier's equal as a chief of staff, was competent. Grouchy screwed up royally |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Mar 16, 2016 0:18:01 GMT
Jean-Luc Picard,Wellesly sucked in my opinion and and Soult was meant a good divisional commander but he was not fit for being chief of stuff and why i would pick Oudinot over suvorov is simple i admire Oudinot and Micheal Ney.
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Mar 16, 2016 0:22:34 GMT
Jean-Luc Picard,Wellesly sucked in my opinion and and Soult was meant a good divisional commander but he was not fit for being chief of stuff and why i would pick Oudinot over suvorov is simple i admire Oudinot and Micheal Ney. 1. Wellington led the poorly trained and supplied Anglo-Portuguese army against the larger forces of the skilled Soult and won 2. You should read about Suvorov, he has a great record too (storming the fortress of Ismail, Trebbia, crushing the Kosciusko Uprising, etc.). Much greater in RL than Oudinot 3. It's spelled Michel Ney, not Michael Ney |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Mar 16, 2016 0:25:31 GMT
Jean-Luc Picard,Yes i know Suvorov did many great feats but i will stick by Oudinot and yes wellington had his own good luck but i still think napolean is better and yes i did mispleaed Michel Ney my fault hopefully no hard feelings  .
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Mar 16, 2016 1:00:42 GMT
Jean-Luc Picard ,In real history Oudinot was one of Napoleons best marshals he was wounded 34 times in battle the most of many generals i think. and so was Micheal Ney and also the same goes for Berthier he was Napoleons chief of staff for most of his campaigns the only time he was not Napoleons chief of staff was during the hundred days aka The Battle of Waterloo i think if Berthier had been chief of staff for the hundred days Napolean could had fared better.I like the Napoleonic Wars i have read a lot about them and also the Duke of Wellington AKA Wellesly is a medicore general in the game and in reality he also suck in my opinion. Napoleon is better then him by 100 times. Napoleon revolutionize the way we wage war.And also Marmont the artillery general was a traitor he betrayed Napolean. 1. I asked about Oudinot vs Suvorov in game, not about your (impressive) knowledge of the Marshals. 2. Wellington was a skilled field commander in RL, Easytech didn't do him justice 3. Grouchy was responsible for the defeat at Waterloo, not the absence of Berthier. Soult, although not Berthier's equal as a chief of staff, was competent. Grouchy screwed up royally Wellington is not bad at all in my opinion. |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Mar 16, 2016 3:02:00 GMT
1. I asked about Oudinot vs Suvorov in game, not about your (impressive) knowledge of the Marshals. 2. Wellington was a skilled field commander in RL, Easytech didn't do him justice 3. Grouchy was responsible for the defeat at Waterloo, not the absence of Berthier. Soult, although not Berthier's equal as a chief of staff, was competent. Grouchy screwed up royally Wellington is not bad at all in my opinion. They made him OK as Econ (4/5 is my ranking), but at the field, they did not do him justice |
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Mar 16, 2016 3:04:48 GMT
Jean-Luc Picard,Yes i know Suvorov did many great feats but i will stick by Oudinot and yes wellington had his own good luck but i still think napolean is better and yes i did mispleaed Michel Ney my fault hopefully no hard feelings . 1) No offense taken 2) I never criticized Napoleon's historical record. Napoleon was arguably History's greatest commander and the greatest of his era. Easytech did not do the man justice 3) Suvorov also has a stronger historical record, and please answer, would you really take Oudinot over Suvorov in game? |
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Post by Horatio Nelson on Mar 16, 2016 3:40:44 GMT
Yeah this is fact, Suvorov>any other infantry general.
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Post by Jean-Luc Picard on Mar 16, 2016 3:41:35 GMT
Yeah this is fact, Suvorov>any other infantry general. Don't start Suvorov vs Lannes again. Please |
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