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Post by 𝘛𝘳𝘰𝘵𝘴𝘬𝘺 on Apr 4, 2021 13:08:05 GMT
I think you underestimate the citical world-politial situation in 1983 Charles HuntzigerRonald Mc. Reagan, american President in office, was a Trump V1.0 (in many many aspects, maybe even more agressive ihn speach). Nato just placed a new generation of tactical nuclear weappons (Phershing Ⅱ) at the border to the warshaw pact, and Moscow was expecting the american attack within the next two months. Petrov was not in charge to do any analysis to the Data he had to transfer. He completly ignored his trainings and his duty and made a personal decision (probably false alarm). If Nato just send a firework, he was facing war-tribunal for command ignoring. Thanks to Petrov's courage and personal responsability we can communicate together. Old systems: Btw. untill today the codes and lauch software for most NATO ICBM's is stored and operating on 8" Floppy-Disks. But still they knew that Reagan was not going to launch a nuclear attack. Any official or leader will never take such a risk, they are accomplished with professional diplomats who knew what nuclear weapons can do. In contrast, during Cuban Missile Crisis, Moscow has given permission to its army in Cuba to use nuclear weapons in case contact with Moscow was lost and using nuclear weapon was necessary for some reason. This situation arose when 2 nuclear submarine has lost contact with Moscow and USN was hunting for them, one of them escaped very closely. Fist strike capability is and was a primary doctrine of the NATO-strategy. Many of R.Reagans actions relayed on the consideration of the 'spiritual adviser !!' of his wife Nancy. Reagan was an actor, not with the intelligene of Arnold (Schwarzenegger). His geopolitical experience = 0. Many strategists were in favour to strike soon. The cuba-problem is nice explained in ➚ Stanley Kubrick's ➚ Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb |
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Post by John Marston on Apr 4, 2021 13:16:06 GMT
And even the Cuba missile crisis had some advantages. One of them was the establishment of a "Red Telephone" or a direct communication line between White House and Kremlin.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2021 13:16:30 GMT
But still they knew that Reagan was not going to launch a nuclear attack. Any official or leader will never take such a risk, they are accomplished with professional diplomats who knew what nuclear weapons can do. In contrast, during Cuban Missile Crisis, Moscow has given permission to its army in Cuba to use nuclear weapons in case contact with Moscow was lost and using nuclear weapon was necessary for some reason. This situation arose when 2 nuclear submarine has lost contact with Moscow and USN was hunting for them, one of them escaped very closely. Fist strike capability is and was a primary doctrine of the NATO-strategy. Many of R.Reagans actions relayed on the consideration of the 'spiritual adviser !!' of his wife Nancy. Reagan was an actor, not with the intelligene of Arnold (Schwarzenegger). His geopolitical experience = 0. Many strategists were in favour to strike soon. The cuba-problem is nice explained in Cubric's ¨Dr. strange love" Cuban Missile Crisis by TimeGhost History YouTube channel, it's owner Indy Neidell and Spartacus Olssen were involved with the documentary "the Great War" |
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Post by 𝘛𝘳𝘰𝘵𝘴𝘬𝘺 on Apr 4, 2021 13:23:47 GMT
Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
really nice movie !
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2021 13:28:07 GMT
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Post by STILETT0 on Apr 4, 2021 14:45:21 GMT
A technical mistake brought world closer to destruction. Also, what was the year? 1983 Incredibly, he was neither punished nor rewarded for his actions was this Petrov Stanislav? |
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Post by 𝘛𝘳𝘰𝘵𝘴𝘬𝘺 on Apr 4, 2021 15:10:15 GMT
1983 Incredibly, he was neither punished nor rewarded for his actions was this Petrov Stanislav? Yes, I believe you are right. |
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Post by STILETT0 on Apr 4, 2021 15:27:15 GMT
watched it with my dad. Great movie. |
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Post by John Marston on Apr 5, 2021 4:31:05 GMT
1983 Incredibly, he was neither punished nor rewarded for his actions was this Petrov Stanislav? Yes. Then there is this Arkhipov save incident too. |
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Post by Pietro Badoglio on Apr 5, 2021 12:38:12 GMT
Which Allied country played the most important role in allies victory of ww2.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2021 12:41:00 GMT
Which Allied country played the most important role in allies victory of ww2. 1.USSR 2. UK & USA tied 3. China 4. Canada and France If you want from all countries then Fascist Italy will be at 4 and Canada and France at 5. |
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Post by STILETT0 on Apr 5, 2021 13:10:55 GMT
was this Petrov Stanislav? Yes. Then there is this Arkhipov save incident too. the dude who stopped that submarine from firing ballistic missiles during the Cuban Missile Crisis? |
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Post by STILETT0 on Apr 5, 2021 13:13:29 GMT
Which Allied country played the most important role in allies victory of ww2. 1.USSR 2. UK & USA tied 3. China 4. Canada and France If you want from all countries then Fascist Italy will be at 4 and Canada and France at 5. All of that is wrong...it is: 1. Switzerland 2. Switzerland 3. Switzerland 4. Switzerland 5. Switzerland when Hitler went to Tesco to replenish his hoard of Scottish Shortbread, his card declined. He then died of shock. Who was taking care of his money may I ask????????? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2021 13:39:15 GMT
Yes. Then there is this Arkhipov save incident too. the dude who stopped that submarine from firing ballistic missiles during the Cuban Missile Crisis? No |
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Post by STILETT0 on Apr 5, 2021 14:13:58 GMT
the dude who stopped that submarine from firing ballistic missiles during the Cuban Missile Crisis? No you sure we're not talking about the same dude?  |
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