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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Feb 28, 2021 2:12:15 GMT
Which of the most important front of ww1 except Western and Eastern front Most important, Mesopotamian, Most interesting, the East African. |
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Feb 28, 2021 2:13:20 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2021 2:13:20 GMT
Which of the most important front of ww1 except Western and Eastern front Most important, Mesopotamian, Most interesting, the East African. Mesopotamian ? I thought main 2 options were Italian and Balkan one |
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Post by John Marston on Apr 1, 2021 11:14:28 GMT
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Post by John Marston on Apr 3, 2021 6:57:33 GMT
Alternate history is a rival...
I won't le this thread die never...
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Post by STILETT0 on Apr 3, 2021 14:39:53 GMT
Alternate history is a rival... I won't le this thread die never... we should not see them as a rival, but as a friend. What do you say we answer the latest questions, if there are any? |
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Post by John Marston on Apr 4, 2021 6:03:05 GMT
Alternate history is a rival... I won't le this thread die never... we should not see them as a rival, but as a friend. What do you say we answer the latest questions, if there are any? Of course. Let's talk about Cold War. Have you heard about the Petrov save incident? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2021 7:14:55 GMT
we should not see them as a rival, but as a friend. What do you say we answer the latest questions, if there are any? Of course. Let's talk about Cold War. Have you heard about the Petrov save incident? No, I hadn't heard about that incident. |
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Post by John Marston on Apr 4, 2021 7:25:52 GMT
Of course. Let's talk about Cold War. Have you heard about the Petrov save incident? No, I hadn't heard about that incident. It was an event in Cold war, which exposed the poor quality of Soviet early (Nukes) detection system. The unique alignment of the sun with the satellites gave a false alarm that the Americans launched Nukes against the Soviets. The highest officer present there was Petrov, who refused to report it to higher officers because he belived that the Americans would launch nukes in packs and the system showed only few, isolated missiles. He was right and an investigation later revealed the reason for the false alarm (alignment of the Sun). The world was so close to destruction. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2021 7:28:25 GMT
No, I hadn't heard about that incident. It was an event in Cold war, which exposed the poor quality of Soviet early (Nukes) detection system. The unique alignment of the sun with the satellites gave a false alarm that the Americans launched Nukes against the Soviets. The highest officer present there was Petrov, who refused to report it to higher officers because he belived that the Americans would launch nukes in packs and the system showed only few, isolated missiles. He was right and an investigation later revealed the reason for the false alarm (alignment of the Sun). The world was so close to destruction. A technical mistake brought world closer to destruction. Also, what was the year? |
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Post by John Marston on Apr 4, 2021 7:30:02 GMT
It was an event in Cold war, which exposed the poor quality of Soviet early (Nukes) detection system. The unique alignment of the sun with the satellites gave a false alarm that the Americans launched Nukes against the Soviets. The highest officer present there was Petrov, who refused to report it to higher officers because he belived that the Americans would launch nukes in packs and the system showed only few, isolated missiles. He was right and an investigation later revealed the reason for the false alarm (alignment of the Sun). The world was so close to destruction. A technical mistake brought world closer to destruction. Also, what was the year? 1983 Incredibly, he was neither punished nor rewarded for his actions |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2021 7:32:34 GMT
A technical mistake brought world closer to destruction. Also, what was the year? 1983 Incredibly, he was neither punished nor rewarded for his actions I believe it was even more closer during 1962 which became so tense and both sides only realised the seriousness after a week.. |
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Post by John Marston on Apr 4, 2021 7:35:30 GMT
1983 Incredibly, he was neither punished nor rewarded for his actions I believe it was even more closer during 1962 which became so tense and both sides only realised the seriousness after a week.. This is much close because if he had reported to his seniors, then they would have surely retaliated with nukes, starting off a third world war |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2021 7:39:21 GMT
I believe it was even more closer during 1962 which became so tense and both sides only realised the seriousness after a week.. This is much close because if he had reported to his seniors, then they would have surely retaliated with nukes, starting off a third world war I don't think so, they wouldn't do it right at the moment and they knew USA will not do such thing without any reason. In Cuba , the situation was about to go out of hand and especially in last 2 days about the nuclear Submarines. |
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Apr 4, 2021 11:18:34 GMT
This is much close because if he had reported to his seniors, then they would have surely retaliated with nukes, starting off a third world war I don't think so, they wouldn't do it right at the moment and they knew USA will not do such thing without any reason. In Cuba , the situation was about to go out of hand and especially in last 2 days about the nuclear Submarines. I think you underestimate the citical world-politial situation in 1983 Charles HuntzigerRonald Mc. Reagan, american President in office, was a Trump V1.0 (in many many aspects, maybe even more agressive ihn speach). Nato just placed a new generation of tactical nuclear weappons (Phershing β
‘) at the border to the warshaw pact, and Moscow was expecting the american attack within the next two months. Petrov was not in charge to do any analysis to the Data he had to transfer. He completly ignored his trainings and his duty and made a personal decision (probably false alarm). If Nato just send a firecracker, he was facing a military-tribunal for command ignoring. Thanks to Petrov's courage and personal responsability we can communicate together. Old systems: Btw. untill today the codes and lauch software for most NATO ICBM's is stored and operating on 8" Floppy-Disks. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2021 11:34:57 GMT
I don't think so, they wouldn't do it right at the moment and they knew USA will not do such thing without any reason. In Cuba , the situation was about to go out of hand and especially in last 2 days about the nuclear Submarines. I think you underestimate the citical world-politial situation in 1983 Charles HuntzigerRonald Mc. Reagan, american President in office, was a Trump V1.0 (in many many aspects, maybe even more agressive ihn speach). Nato just placed a new generation of tactical nuclear weappons (Phershing β
‘) at the border to the warshaw pact, and Moscow was expecting the american attack within the next two months. Petrov was not in charge to do any analysis to the Data he had to transfer. He completly ignored his trainings and his duty and made a personal decision (probably false alarm). If Nato just send a firework, he was facing war-tribunal for command ignoring. Thanks to Petrov's courage and personal responsability we can communicate together. Old systems: Btw. untill today the codes and lauch software for most NATO ICBM's is stored and operating on 8" Floppy-Disks. But still they knew that Reagan was not going to launch a nuclear attack. Any official or leader will never take such a risk, they are accomplished with professional diplomats who knew what nuclear weapons can do. In contrast, during Cuban Missile Crisis, Moscow has given permission to its army in Cuba to use nuclear weapons in case contact with Moscow was lost and using nuclear weapon was necessary for some reason. This situation arose when 2 nuclear submarine has lost contact with Moscow and USN was hunting for them, one of them escaped very closely. |
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