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Post by General Kenobi on Mar 2, 2021 6:04:58 GMT
Which Lannes you mean? From the Academy - No. - an IAP has to be good from the counter - He is: Lames much too slow. Ingame you get him always with the horseshoes. 74/4 or 150/8 On infantry every ingame general with massfire is great - leadership and assult art on top make him fantastic. On cavalry he is ok, but not great. Geography +2 move - that's it. Where can u recruit the generals if not the tavern? btw I started the game yesterday and I’m completely lost |
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Post by littlecorporal on Mar 2, 2021 6:59:22 GMT
Which Lannes you mean? From the Academy - No. - an IAP has to be good from the counter - He is: Lames much too slow. Ingame you get him always with the horseshoes. 74/4 or 150/8 On infantry every ingame general with massfire is great - leadership and assult art on top make him fantastic. On cavalry he is ok, but not great. Geography +2 move - that's it. Where can u recruit the generals if not the tavern? btw I started the game yesterday and I’m completely lost Tavern Generals are temporary generals. They are available only in conquest mode. You can add them by clicking on the beer mug. Headquarters generals are available from completing conquests or buying them in the academy. Welcome to the forum! |
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Post by General Kenobi on Mar 2, 2021 7:00:59 GMT
Where can u recruit the generals if not the tavern? btw I started the game yesterday and I’m completely lost Tavern Generals are temporary generals. They are available only in conquest mode. You can add them by clicking on the beer mug. Headquarters generals are available from completing conquests or buying them in the academy. Welcome to the forum! Ok now I understand there is academy headquarters and tavern right? |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Mar 11, 2021 23:54:42 GMT
Lannes is one of the best generals in the game, and easily the best infantry general imo. He has massive output, can’t die, can tank really well, and can be a good hybrid. He is a 5/5 imo.
I know he is the best infantry general because when I had victoria and lannes, victoria spend most of the time on the bench whereas lannes was in every battle.
But he is very expensive to max, he suffers from being too good of an infantry general thus he is a meh hybrid, and I’d say nelson is a better choice.
However, there really isn’t another infantry general even close to as good in the game so he is an excellent buy imo
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Post by John Marston on Mar 12, 2021 14:54:48 GMT
Lannes is one of the best generals in the game, and easily the best infantry general imo. He has massive output, can’t die, can tank really well, and can be a good hybrid. He is a 5/5 imo. I know he is the best infantry general because when I had victoria and lannes, victoria spend most of the time on the bench whereas lannes was in every battle. But he is very expensive to max, he suffers from being too good of an infantry general thus he is a meh hybrid, and I’d say nelson is a better choice. However, there really isn’t another infantry general even close to as good in the game so he is an excellent buy imo So the best general? |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Mar 12, 2021 15:16:52 GMT
Lannes is one of the best generals in the game, and easily the best infantry general imo. He has massive output, can’t die, can tank really well, and can be a good hybrid. He is a 5/5 imo. I know he is the best infantry general because when I had victoria and lannes, victoria spend most of the time on the bench whereas lannes was in every battle. But he is very expensive to max, he suffers from being too good of an infantry general thus he is a meh hybrid, and I’d say nelson is a better choice. However, there really isn’t another infantry general even close to as good in the game so he is an excellent buy imo So the best general? Nope. Lannes isn't even the best infantry. It's Wellesley. Also, Lannes is just ok on other units. |
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Post by John Marston on Mar 12, 2021 15:20:37 GMT
Nope. Lannes isn't even the best infantry. It's Wellesley. Also, Lannes is just ok on other units. I feel Lannes is the best. He is OK on other units because he was designed to lead infantry. Wellesley is a pretty mediocre general I feel |
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Post by John Marston on Mar 12, 2021 15:25:23 GMT
Nope. Lannes isn't even the best infantry. It's Wellesley. Also, Lannes is just ok on other units. Banner - Expensive. Economy - not useful when you want to fight. Bugle - OK Leadership - Great. Just 4 infantry stars and when I played with him in conquests and coalition campaign, he gets whacked easily, forcing me to put him onto a city frequently |
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Post by Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus on Mar 12, 2021 17:55:03 GMT
Nope. Lannes isn't even the best infantry. It's Wellesley. Also, Lannes is just ok on other units. I feel Lannes is the best. He is OK on other units because he was designed to lead infantry. Wellesley is a pretty mediocre general I feel Wellesley is ok but his survivability is mediocre, and only 3 training stars does not help his case. As I am not a S&L player, he seems meh to me too. Lannes is not the best general. He is just the best infantry general. Nelson, Davout, Maxed Berthier, Lan, Isabella and Sophia are better than him. And Poniatowski is arguably a better choice as buying 5 emblems is much cheaper than 10, and if you give him a snair drum, consider him Lannes. But Lannes is next best, hence why I have him as blue (great not excellent) in my rating. |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Mar 13, 2021 3:38:47 GMT
Nope. Lannes isn't even the best infantry. It's Wellesley. Also, Lannes is just ok on other units. Banner - Expensive. Economy - not useful when you want to fight. Bugle - OK Leadership - Great. Just 4 infantry stars and when I played with him in conquests and coalition campaign, he gets whacked easily, forcing me to put him onto a city frequently Because AI Wellesley doesn't have the snare drum. Leadership + Bugle is enough to make Wellesley the best infantry general for me. Since I never s/l and always swap items, I never count on AA and don't find MF particularly useful until very late game. For Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus Lannes and Washington would definitely be better than Wellesley since he doesn't swap items, but for me Bugle is a must for consistent damage. As I've said long ago, Lannes, Washington, Wellesley, Victoria, and Suvorov are all on the same page as candidates for the best infantry. The ranking among them could vary by a player's style but generally nobody will choose a general out of these five if only considering quality. |
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Post by John Marston on Mar 13, 2021 5:52:48 GMT
Banner - Expensive. Economy - not useful when you want to fight. Bugle - OK Leadership - Great. Just 4 infantry stars and when I played with him in conquests and coalition campaign, he gets whacked easily, forcing me to put him onto a city frequently Because AI Wellesley doesn't have the snare drum. Leadership + Bugle is enough to make Wellesley the best infantry general for me. Since I never s/l and always swap items, I never count on AA and don't find MF particularly useful until very late game. For Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus Lannes and Washington would definitely be better than Wellesley since he doesn't swap items, but for me Bugle is a must for consistent damage. As I've said long ago, Lannes, Washington, Wellesley, Victoria, and Suvorov are all on the same page as candidates for the best infantry. The ranking among them could vary by a player's style but generally nobody will choose a general out of these five if only considering quality. How exactly would you define quality? |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Mar 13, 2021 8:33:41 GMT
Because AI Wellesley doesn't have the snare drum. Leadership + Bugle is enough to make Wellesley the best infantry general for me. Since I never s/l and always swap items, I never count on AA and don't find MF particularly useful until very late game. For Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus Lannes and Washington would definitely be better than Wellesley since he doesn't swap items, but for me Bugle is a must for consistent damage. As I've said long ago, Lannes, Washington, Wellesley, Victoria, and Suvorov are all on the same page as candidates for the best infantry. The ranking among them could vary by a player's style but generally nobody will choose a general out of these five if only considering quality. How exactly would you define quality? They are the best for players with these playing styles: non-s/l, non-Leadership: Suvorov s/l, non-Leadership: Victoria s/l, Leadership: Lannes non-s/l, Leadership, damage: Wellesley non-s/l, Leadership, survival ability: Washington These 5 should cover more than 90% of all EW4 infantry users' style. The "quality" here means that no other general can do better in this playing style than this one (I'm not quite sure about Suvorov though since Victoria is great).I didn't take Banner into account since Washington and Wellesley already have it and very few player actually use them. Note that this didn't take cost and versatility into account. If we're being realistic then there's no way I'm getting Wellesley. |
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Post by John Marston on Mar 13, 2021 11:04:06 GMT
How exactly would you define quality? They are the best for players with these playing styles: non-s/l, non-Leadership: Suvorov s/l, non-Leadership: Victoria s/l, Leadership: Lannes non-s/l, Leadership, damage: Wellesley non-s/l, Leadership, survival ability: Washington These 5 should cover more than 90% of all EW4 infantry users' style. The "quality" here means that no other general can do better in this playing style than this one (I'm not quite sure about Suvorov though since Victoria is great).I didn't take Banner into account since Washington and Wellesley already have it and very few player actually use them. Note that this didn't take cost and versatility into account. If we're being realistic then there's no way I'm getting Wellesley. Ah yes. All the analysis are IGNORANT of cost or Dobeln would have been the best infantry general. But I feel that even including banner, it wouldn't count much as many wouldn't use it and it works only for neighbouring troops. I think et used this as a prequel for ew6 aura. |
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Post by lizardpianist on Aug 4, 2023 15:52:48 GMT
I think Lannes has the most potential for Hybrid on ALL types of units. (A bit different to Sakurako who has hybrid capability only on inf, art, cav)
Leadership and Assault Art applies to all, and they are extremely good skills.
For infantry he has 5 stars and mass fire.
For cavalry and artillery, he has geography. Art/Cav/Mov stars could be added.
Fortress and Navy, only Leadership and Assault Art. However, Fortress doesn't have a specific skill, so Leadership and Assault Art is amazing on one. (especially on coastal fort vs strong navy gens) Navy is also mostly boom boom by stars and hp.
Yeah. amazing potential.
One can argue that Lan the princess also has similar capabilities, but she's more cav-specific tbh.
Anyways, I rate Lannes 5*.
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Post by 𝘛𝘳𝘰𝘵𝘴𝘬𝘺 on Aug 4, 2023 17:50:03 GMT
Geography (only cav/ art) is great for the beginning and extremly good for mission generals. I don't rate geography so high for headquarter generals at least without engeneerig- and the missing movement is really a pain for an IAP.
AA is nice to have, but has no real strategic usage as it is so unreliable..
For me Lannes is fantastic as mission commander, but not a good investment as IAP.
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