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Post by eeeeef on Mar 3, 2021 14:35:22 GMT
What's with you and unpopular and more often than not incorrect opinions. I just like playing devil's advocate. I could make an arguement for Hoth being a great price performer, honestly. Actually, I have made these calculations, and Rommel is better, at least on a heavy. Guderian shines on medium tanks. However, considering I have an excellent Heavy tanker, (Bock) Guderian is the best Tanker for now. However, Rommel is very capable on a medium tank as well, so I think I'll ... abuse save/load! Both are excellent tank generals and are superior to their allies counterparts but imo guderian is the better economic and overall option compared to Rommel in virtually every way except for the African theatre and heavy tanks. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Mar 3, 2021 14:36:27 GMT
I just like playing devil's advocate. I could make an arguement for Hoth being a great price performer, honestly. Actually, I have made these calculations, and Rommel is better, at least on a heavy. Guderian shines on medium tanks. However, considering I have an excellent Heavy tanker, (Bock) Guderian is the best Tanker for now. However, Rommel is very capable on a medium tank as well, so I think I'll ... abuse save/load! Both are excellent tank generals and are superior to their allies counterparts but imo guderian is the better economic and overall option compared to Rommel in virtually every way except for the African theatre and heavy tanks. Guderian is better... Except in Africa and in a type of tank. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 16:51:49 GMT
I find Rommel better TBH. I don't know if it is a bug, but according to my calculations, over 25 tries, Anti Armor on a triple medium Guderian, with defense accounted for, versus an Infantry and an Armored Car, the Armored car got, on average, 4 more dmg. What's with you and unpopular and more often than not incorrect opinions. Woah! eeeeef why u so salty? |
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Post by eeeeef on Mar 3, 2021 16:54:36 GMT
What's with you and unpopular and more often than not incorrect opinions. Woah! eeeeef why u so salty? Idk man ever since I accidentally became a vegan I started to become more of douche all of a sudden. Ba dum tss!! (pls tell me the setup was worth it) |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 16:55:36 GMT
Idk man ever since I accidentally became a vegan I started to become more of douche all of a sudden. Ba dum tss!! (pls tell me the setup was worth it) Lol. Also how do you accidently become vegan? |
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Post by eeeeef on Mar 3, 2021 16:56:44 GMT
Idk man ever since I accidentally became a vegan I started to become more of douche all of a sudden. Ba dum tss!! (pls tell me the setup was worth it) Lol. Also how do you accidently become vegan? idk!! One day when going to sleep I realised I've never ate meat in a span of 3 days so I figured that it could be a funny status quote and a good setup for a joke. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Mar 5, 2021 0:50:55 GMT
I just like playing devil's advocate. I could make an arguement for Hoth being a great price performer, honestly. Actually, I have made these calculations, and Rommel is better, at least on a heavy. Guderian shines on medium tanks. However, considering I have an excellent Heavy tanker, (Bock) Guderian is the best Tanker for now. However, Rommel is very capable on a medium tank as well, so I think I'll ... abuse save/load! Both are excellent tank generals and are superior to their allies counterparts but imo guderian is the better economic and overall option compared to Rommel in virtually every way except for the African theatre and heavy tanks. How is he better and more economical? Also, right now I'm leaning towards Yamamoto. |
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Post by HangryBird on Mar 5, 2021 1:24:27 GMT
Both are excellent tank generals and are superior to their allies counterparts but imo guderian is the better economic and overall option compared to Rommel in virtually every way except for the African theatre and heavy tanks. How is he better and more economical? Also, right now I'm leaning towards Yamamoto. Guderian has better survivability, while Rommel has better offense. More often than not, survivability triumphs over offense. Guderian's better survivability means that he requires less economy to maintain his fighting strength. I think that's what eeeeef, meant by economical. |
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Post by eeeeef on Mar 5, 2021 6:03:04 GMT
How is he better and more economical? Also, right now I'm leaning towards Yamamoto. Guderian has better survivability, while Rommel has better offense. More often than not, survivability triumphs over offense. Guderian's better survivability means that he requires less economy to maintain his fighting strength. I think that's what eeeeef, meant by economical. What I mean is that guderian is featured in a whopping 4 campaigns meaning that he'll be able to close the price gap he and Rommel have pretty easily. |
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Post by HangryBird on Mar 5, 2021 7:08:40 GMT
Guderian has better survivability, while Rommel has better offense. More often than not, survivability triumphs over offense. Guderian's better survivability means that he requires less economy to maintain his fighting strength. I think that's what eeeeef , meant by economical. What I mean is that guderian is featured in a whopping 4 campaigns meaning that he'll be able to close the price gap he and Rommel have pretty easily. Not really, you only get like 1 or 2 medals at a time, so unless you grind, you won't close the gap so quickly. Not like it matters though, the difference in cost between the two is 25 medals. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Mar 27, 2021 15:31:19 GMT
Okay, Who next? My current gens are on post one and I am stuck on Normandy and Defense of Tunisia. Money is no Object.
Edit: Guderian is an Option, although I will never put him on a medium tank.
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Post by Amazing on Mar 27, 2021 16:49:03 GMT
Okay, Who next? My current gens are on post one and I am stuck on Normandy and Defense of Tunisia. Money is no Object. Edit: Guderian is an Option, although I will never put him on a medium tank. If you only have those 5 generals then you'll probably need a lot more help going forward. On the Allies side, you already have a top 2 tank and infantry general so I would get Govorov cause he is significantly better than Chuikov. I personally got Halsey for Air Force during Pacific 45 since he is the only one with Air Force Cluster but you can always get him earlier, I also did use Clark for Normandy & Marching to Italy just because of Amphibious to perfect clear it so there is that. On the Axis side, I don't understand why you would not put Guderian on a Medium. Him + Panther is kinda broken. You already have Rommel and Bock for Heavies and Bock only cause he halves the price of it. You're never going to waste a good tank general on another Heavy because you only have 1 Axis Heavy Special Force in Maus and anything else would just be wasted. So why not make full use of the toolset the game gives to you instead of handicapping yourself. Axis isn't like the Allies, you kinda really don't have a choice. Its Guderian + Rommel and that's it. Heck even Bock is so much worse than Timoshenko. But anyways. So on Axis, I'd probably get Guderian, I'd also take a Donitz (Or Nagumo if you want your life to be harder), and Yamamoto or Kesselring depending on preference. If you're having a problem with Infantry, I'd consider Yamashita who I personally think is Superior for Axis than Rundstedt on Infantry since you need to play really Aggressive as Axis to perfect clear certain missions. That's my two cents anyways.  |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Mar 27, 2021 18:18:51 GMT
Okay, Who next? My current gens are on post one and I am stuck on Normandy and Defense of Tunisia. Money is no Object. Edit: Guderian is an Option, although I will never put him on a medium tank. If you only have those 5 generals then you'll probably need a lot more help going forward. On the Allies side, you already have a top 2 tank and infantry general so I would get Govorov cause he is significantly better than Chuikov. I personally got Halsey for Air Force during Pacific 45 since he is the only one with Air Force Cluster but you can always get him earlier, I also did use Clark for Normandy & Marching to Italy just because of Amphibious to perfect clear it so there is that. On the Axis side, I don't understand why you would not put Guderian on a Medium. Him + Panther is kinda broken. You already have Rommel and Bock for Heavies and Bock only cause he halves the price of it. You're never going to waste a good tank general on another Heavy because you only have 1 Axis Heavy Special Force in Maus and anything else would just be wasted. So why not make full use of the toolset the game gives to you instead of handicapping yourself. Axis isn't like the Allies, you kinda really don't have a choice. Its Guderian + Rommel and that's it. Heck even Bock is so much worse than Timoshenko. But anyways. So on Axis, I'd probably get Guderian, I'd also take a Donitz (Or Nagumo if you want your life to be harder), and Yamamoto or Kesselring depending on preference. If you're having a problem with Infantry, I'd consider Yamashita who I personally think is Superior for Axis than Rundstedt on Infantry since you need to play really Aggressive as Axis to perfect clear certain missions. That's my two cents anyways. 1. Govorov - Used him for a while, then decided I disliked that, even on a plain, he is still to close to Chuikov to get him this early. 2. Clark - Is good, but would you recommend him for me? 3. Medium Tanks - Are close-combat, meaning that even with Blitzkrieg, They die easily. In addition, they are super expensive to fix. I like them in Army Group, but not in Campaigns. 4. Doenitz - Excellent. But should I get him now? 5. Air Gen - Same as Doenitz 6. Yamashita - Possibility, but honestly prefer Kuribayashi for price and Ability. In addition, do I need yet another Infantry? I also am not a fan of a quick stab, but rather my playstyle is that of a steamroller. I mean no disrespect, but could you give me a decisive answer for exactly which gen next? |
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Post by Amazing on Mar 27, 2021 18:35:07 GMT
If you only have those 5 generals then you'll probably need a lot more help going forward. On the Allies side, you already have a top 2 tank and infantry general so I would get Govorov cause he is significantly better than Chuikov. I personally got Halsey for Air Force during Pacific 45 since he is the only one with Air Force Cluster but you can always get him earlier, I also did use Clark for Normandy & Marching to Italy just because of Amphibious to perfect clear it so there is that. On the Axis side, I don't understand why you would not put Guderian on a Medium. Him + Panther is kinda broken. You already have Rommel and Bock for Heavies and Bock only cause he halves the price of it. You're never going to waste a good tank general on another Heavy because you only have 1 Axis Heavy Special Force in Maus and anything else would just be wasted. So why not make full use of the toolset the game gives to you instead of handicapping yourself. Axis isn't like the Allies, you kinda really don't have a choice. Its Guderian + Rommel and that's it. Heck even Bock is so much worse than Timoshenko. But anyways. So on Axis, I'd probably get Guderian, I'd also take a Donitz (Or Nagumo if you want your life to be harder), and Yamamoto or Kesselring depending on preference. If you're having a problem with Infantry, I'd consider Yamashita who I personally think is Superior for Axis than Rundstedt on Infantry since you need to play really Aggressive as Axis to perfect clear certain missions. That's my two cents anyways. 1. Govorov - Used him for a while, then decided I disliked that, even on a plain, he is still to close to Chuikov to get him this early. 2. Clark - Is good, but would you recommend him for me? 3. Medium Tanks - Are close-combat, meaning that even with Blitzkrieg, They die easily. In addition, they are super expensive to fix. I like them in Army Group, but not in Campaigns. 4. Doenitz - Excellent. But should I get him now? 5. Air Gen - Same as Doenitz 6. Yamashita - Possibility, but honestly prefer Kuribayashi for price and Ability. In addition, do I need yet another Infantry? I also am not a fan of a quick stab, but rather my playstyle is that of a steamroller. I mean no disrespect, but could you give me a decisive answer for exactly which gen next? Imo, If Allies grab Govorov, to me he was a breakthrough which made the Katyusha so OP compared to when Chuikov was on it, he is the best Arty on the allies side so you won't regret it anyways. If Axis go grab Guderian. Put him on a Panther. Don't let him fight alone but rather with your entire army. I hope that helps and if you want either of the two I listed, always get the Axis general first as Axis is harder. By the time I was at 44, I already had Guderian Leeb Rommel and Nagumo and Yamamoto on the Axis side and just Vatutin and Vasilevsky for Allies. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Mar 29, 2021 14:18:34 GMT
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