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Post by andrei on Mar 31, 2021 17:14:51 GMT
Great! Now I can continue being sad and confused as to why people hate monty and roko . I think Roko is severely overrated. But Roko is the best ally Heavy Tanker!!! 111 Weapon of Mass Destruction!!!1
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Post by Port on Mar 31, 2021 17:16:08 GMT
I think Roko is severely overrated. But Roko is the best ally Heavy Tanker!!! 111 Weapon of Mass Destruction!!!1 No, he is not. Can do extremely heavy damage.
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Post by andrei on Mar 31, 2021 17:20:14 GMT
But Roko is the best ally Heavy Tanker!!! 111 Weapon of Mass Destruction!!!1 No, he is not. Can do extremely heavy damage. Don't say he is outclassed by Vatutin. It simply can't be.
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Post by Port on Mar 31, 2021 17:33:57 GMT
No, he is not. Can do extremely heavy damage. Don't say he is outclassed by Vatutin. It simply can't be. It is. Rokossovsky is outclassed by Vatutin.
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Post by andrei on Mar 31, 2021 17:39:22 GMT
Don't say he is outclassed by Vatutin. It simply can't be. It is. Rokossovsky is outclassed by Vatutin. No. It is not. I will not ask why. I'll just hold. Roko is the best.
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Post by Port on Mar 31, 2021 18:05:40 GMT
It is. Rokossovsky is outclassed by Vatutin. No. It is not. I will not ask why. I'll just hold. Roko is the best. Because of Max Tide of Iron.
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Post by andrei on Mar 31, 2021 18:14:48 GMT
No. It is not. I will not ask why. I'll just hold. Roko is the best. Because of Max Tide of Iron. Roko is better because of max Panzer leader and max Anti-Armor
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Post by Port on Mar 31, 2021 18:16:05 GMT
Because of Max Tide of Iron. Roko is better because of max Panzer leader and max Anti-Armor One extra star, cheaper and has more versatility
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Post by andrei on Mar 31, 2021 18:16:53 GMT
Roko is better because of max Panzer leader and max Anti-Armor One extra star, cheaper and has more versatility 2 extra movement, higher rank and more attacks
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Post by Port on Mar 31, 2021 18:18:59 GMT
One extra star, cheaper and has more versatility 2 extra movement, higher rank and more attacks 95 medals cheaper. More raw damage meaning the possibility of multiple attacks.
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Post by andrei on Mar 31, 2021 18:21:08 GMT
2 extra movement, higher rank and more attacks 95 medals cheaper. More raw damage meaning the possibility of multiple attacks. Raw damage in the end-game is not equal more attacks. More attacks from Panzer leader means more attacks. Raw damage is of less value. That's a rule for end-game. Just like rumor was better than Plain fighting in WC4. Almost same thing. Good tactical skills are much more valuable in the endgame. 95 medals cheaper? Are You serious? It's a joke.
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Post by Port on Mar 31, 2021 18:22:20 GMT
95 medals cheaper. More raw damage meaning the possibility of multiple attacks. Raw damage in the end-game is not equal more attack. More attacks from Panzer leader means more attacks. Raw damage is of less value. That's a rule for end-game. Just like rumor was better than Plain fighting in WC4. Almost same thing. 95 medals cheaper? Are You serious? It's a joke. Yes, even if Rokossovsky is good, Vatutin is still very good.
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Post by andrei on Mar 31, 2021 18:23:33 GMT
Raw damage in the end-game is not equal more attack. More attacks from Panzer leader means more attacks. Raw damage is of less value. That's a rule for end-game. Just like rumor was better than Plain fighting in WC4. Almost same thing. 95 medals cheaper? Are You serious? It's a joke. Yes, even if Rokossovsky is good, Vatutin is still very good. No, even if Vatutin is bad, Roko is still good.
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Post by Port on Mar 31, 2021 18:24:59 GMT
Yes, even if Rokossovsky is good, Vatutin is still very good. No, even if Vatutin is bad, Roko is still good. Vatutin is good, Vatutin is by no means bad, If Vatutin is bad Rokossovsky will also be bad, and Patton will be mediocre.
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Post by andrei on Mar 31, 2021 21:15:59 GMT
No, even if Vatutin is bad, Roko is still good. Vatutin is good, Vatutin is by no means bad, If Vatutin is bad Rokossovsky will also be bad, and Patton will be mediocre. In my humble opinion Tide of Iron is extremely overrated skill. Don't get me wrong skill is good. But it is far worse than Panzer Leader. In the very beginning of the game when You have low tech this skill shines. No competition. BUT! When You progress and Your tech level increases value of these 12 additional damage is less and less valuable. You can easily check it by Yourself. Take the tank with no general, attack infantry for example. Then take Guderian or Vatutin (just to evaluate ToI skill) and compare by attacking the same infantry unit after restarting the mission. In case Your tech level is quite high enough already You won't be impressed with the difference. That is why stats like mobility and tactical skills like Panzer Leader start to shine in mid to end game. But in the early game skills like Tide of Iron are sweet of course and You start to think that it is forever. But it is not. I had absolutely same discussion in WC4 times like Rumor vs. Plain Fighting. I easily trade some amount of raw damage for tactical advantage just because I (as a player) can easily convert it into much more damage.
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