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Post by Port on Mar 15, 2021 14:45:07 GMT
Right, but in campaign I find that Rokossovsky's advantages are nullified. In my case its the exact opposite. Timoshenko(a stand in for vatutin) usually dies early in the battle for his usefulness to eclipse that of Roko's. Well I put Vatutin on KV-6 and keep him by Katuyusha Govorov or Zhukov. But I have tried Rokossovsky on a KV-6 heavy tank and he did pretty much nothing and got destroyed (The KV-6 did everything that unit manage to achieve.) Here is my question have you used Vatutin (not Timoshenko) on a KV-6 (Instead of Rokossovsky). If not how do you know? |
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Post by eeeeef on Mar 15, 2021 14:47:53 GMT
In my case its the exact opposite. Timoshenko(a stand in for vatutin) usually dies early in the battle for his usefulness to eclipse that of Roko's. Well I put Vatutin on KV-6 and keep him by Katuyusha Govorov or Zhukov. But I have tried Rokossovsky on a KV-6 heavy tank and he did pretty much nothing and got destroyed (The KV-6 did everything that unit manage to achieve.) Here is my question have you used Vatutin (not Timoshenko) on a KV-6 (Instead of Rokossovsky). If not how do you know? I used him on a T-28 heavy, Roko's damage can often be lucked base meaning that he can leave a pretty bad first impression but when the odds are in your favor he can deal some serious damage, he's also harder to use him to his maximum potential relative to vatutin I would argue. |
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Post by Port on Mar 15, 2021 14:48:46 GMT
Well I put Vatutin on KV-6 and keep him by Katuyusha Govorov or Zhukov. But I have tried Rokossovsky on a KV-6 heavy tank and he did pretty much nothing and got destroyed (The KV-6 did everything that unit manage to achieve.) Here is my question have you used Vatutin (not Timoshenko) on a KV-6 (Instead of Rokossovsky). If not how do you know? I used him on a T-28 heavy, Roko's damage can often be lucked base meaning that he can leave a pretty bad first impression but when the odds are in your favor he can deal some serious damage, he's also harder to use him to his maximum potential relative to vatutin I would argue. So how do you know? Unless you try him on a KV-6 how do you know Rokossovsky is better. |
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Post by eeeeef on Mar 15, 2021 14:50:56 GMT
I used him on a T-28 heavy, Roko's damage can often be lucked base meaning that he can leave a pretty bad first impression but when the odds are in your favor he can deal some serious damage, he's also harder to use him to his maximum potential relative to vatutin I would argue. So how do you know? Unless you try him on a KV-6 how do you know Rokossovsky is better. I was referring to how I use them in the Pacific 1945, I used Timoshenko in a KV-6 before in 1941 and Berlin offensive and I like Roko way more than Timoshenko (Vatutin) |
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Post by stoic on Mar 15, 2021 14:53:38 GMT
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Post by eeeeef on Mar 15, 2021 15:00:22 GMT
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Post by Port on Mar 15, 2021 15:32:14 GMT
So how do you know? Unless you try him on a KV-6 how do you know Rokossovsky is better. I was referring to how I use them in the Pacific 1945, I used Timoshenko in a KV-6 before in 1941 and Berlin offensive and I like Roko way more than Timoshenko (Vatutin) I was specifically referring to Vatutin. Put Vatutin on a KV-6 Heavy tank, test him a few times and compare him to Rokossovsky. I mean to test Vatutin not Timoshenko. |
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Post by eeeeef on Mar 15, 2021 15:33:27 GMT
I was referring to how I use them in the Pacific 1945, I used Timoshenko in a KV-6 before in 1941 and Berlin offensive and I like Roko way more than Timoshenko (Vatutin) I was specifically referring to Vatutin. Put Vatutin on a KV-6 Heavy tank, test him a few times and compare him to Rokossovsky. I mean to test Vatutin not Timoshenko. then stoic just did all the work for me. |
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Post by Port on Mar 15, 2021 15:37:54 GMT
I was specifically referring to Vatutin. Put Vatutin on a KV-6 Heavy tank, test him a few times and compare him to Rokossovsky. I mean to test Vatutin not Timoshenko. then stoic just did all the work for me. But how do you account for the 95 medal price gap. You might get Rokossovsky but get Vatutin first, as Vatutin can still function well on medium tanks and also someone named Patton Exists. |
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Post by eeeeef on Mar 15, 2021 15:39:08 GMT
then stoic just did all the work for me. But how do you account for the 95 medal price gap. You might get Rokossovsky but get Vatutin first, as Vatutin can still function well on medium tanks and also someone named Patton Exists. uhh no and also exactly, Patton on medium tanks and Roko/Monty on heavies problem solved. |
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Post by Port on Mar 15, 2021 15:42:13 GMT
But how do you account for the 95 medal price gap. You might get Rokossovsky but get Vatutin first, as Vatutin can still function well on medium tanks and also someone named Patton Exists. uhh no and also exactly, Patton on medium tanks and Roko/Monty on heavies problem solved. Patton is still very good on heavies, and like or not might be better than Rokossovsky in All respects. |
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Post by HangryBird on Mar 15, 2021 15:42:14 GMT
I still think Vatutin is great general because he hits hard in general. But, I don't know why Port, believes that he is better on a KV-6. As others have said, you need panzer leader at the very minimum. Machinist is not necessary, but it helps a lot. |
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Post by Port on Mar 15, 2021 15:44:08 GMT
I still think Vatutin is great general because he hits hard in general. But, I don't know why Port , believes that he is better on a KV-6. As others have said, you need panzer leader at the very minimum. Machinist is not necessary, but it helps a lot. But then why is it not necessary on Medium Tanks? Assault has the same chance to activate on ALL amour units. |
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Post by eeeeef on Mar 15, 2021 15:45:11 GMT
uhh no and also exactly, Patton on medium tanks and Roko/Monty on heavies problem solved. Patton is still very good on heavies, and like or not might be better than Rokossovsky in All respects. Patton is the only allied tank general with Blitzkrieg therefore he must be on medium tanks. If patton takes the heavy tank who do you think will take the medium tank? Vatutin? Of course not he is a sluggish glass cannon incarnate. |
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Post by eeeeef on Mar 15, 2021 15:45:36 GMT
I still think Vatutin is great general because he hits hard in general. But, I don't know why Port , believes that he is better on a KV-6. As others have said, you need panzer leader at the very minimum. Machinist is not necessary, but it helps a lot. But then why is it not necessary on Medium Tanks? Assault has the same chance to activate on ALL amour units. And which tank has the most range to make use of the skill? |
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