Hsueh Yueh
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Post by Hsueh Yueh on May 6, 2021 12:52:28 GMT
Charles Huntziger, Mostly that only works if you have a cav gen on armored cars. Armored cars are like the only good thing about cavalry as a whole. Still, I find infantry and arty to be way superior. Hell, I have a maxed out Hotzendorf that can basically one shot anything.
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Post by Taizong of Tang on May 6, 2021 14:45:16 GMT
Charles Huntziger, Mostly that only works if you have a cav gen on armored cars. Armored cars are like the only good thing about cavalry as a whole. Still, I find infantry and arty to be way superior. Hell, I have a maxed out Hotzendorf that can basically one shot anything. Cavalry is the jack of all trades troop type where armored car is anti infantry, and tank is anti city plus it's troops can statcheck others of their tier. Coincidentally, there are 10 non-IAP cav generals who have 5 skills and can at least reach prince, that means you can play a conquest challenge using only perfect(5 lvl 5 skills) cav generals. I'm building a crazy lineup right now that will fight in 5 fronts. Main front is 3 tanks, Cav commander lvl 6, Defense Formation lvl 6, and pierce lvl 6. Desert front- 2 desert fighting generals, one has lvl 6 desert fighting and the other carries lvl 5 cav commander and defense formation. Plains front- 2 plains fighting generals, one has lvl 6 plains fighting and the other carries lvl 5 cav commander and defense formation. Jungle front- 2 jungle fighting generals, one has lvl 6 jungle fighting and the other carries lvl 5 cav commander and defense formation. Mountain/jungle front- the remaining general carries lvl 5 cav commander and defense formation. Es braust unser Panzer, Im Sturmwind dahin! |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2021 14:48:04 GMT
Charles Huntziger , Mostly that only works if you have a cav gen on armored cars. Armored cars are like the only good thing about cavalry as a whole. Still, I find infantry and arty to be way superior. Hell, I have a maxed out Hotzendorf that can basically one shot anything. Cavalry is the jack of all trades troop type where armored car is anti infantry, and tank is anti city plus it's troops can statcheck others of their tier. Coincidentally, there are 10 non-IAP cav generals who have 5 skills and can at least reach prince, that means you can play a conquest challenge using only perfect(5 lvl 5 skills) cav generals. I'm building a crazy lineup right now that will fight in 5 fronts. Main front is 3 tanks, Cav commander lvl 6, Defense Formation lvl 6, and pierce lvl 6. Desert front- 2 desert fighting generals, one has lvl 6 desert fighting and the other carries lvl 5 cav commander and defense formation. Plains front- 2 plains fighting generals, one has lvl 6 plains fighting and the other carries lvl 5 cav commander and defense formation. Jungle front- 2 jungle fighting generals, one has lvl 6 jungle fighting and the other carries lvl 5 cav commander and defense formation. Mountain/jungle front- the remaining general carries lvl 5 cav commander and defense formation. Es braust unser Panzer, Im Sturmwind dahin! Ah, you have quoted Panzerlied, one of my favourite songs! |
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Post by ash1234 on May 7, 2021 15:32:56 GMT
Infantry I find to be quite weak in the game. So I invest mainly in cav and art gens, especially the big 3 (more like the essential 3- Ivanov, Hindenburg and Beseler). I mean hmg is quite good, but when you think about it, armored cars are much better as they have less population and deal more damage. Sure, New inf is good, but normally you would want to place your inf gens on hmg's. But unless you are playing 1914/17 conquest (even in 1914, you at most start off with only 1 hmg) you are sort of forced to place your inf gens on new inf units, which makes their terrain skills useless. Yes, I know there are special inf units, but in my opinion, the role of infantry is to act as meat shields and 'delay' the enemy's advance while your cav gens heal up. Like put Macmahon and Straussenberg to hold the line with militia while your art gens constantly bombard enemy positions, and then lead your cavalry gens in a mass charge when they have enough health (I'm referring to challenge conquests here, so It may take 5-8 ish turns of delay after your initial advance as your cav gens will run out of steam- eg. France 1917, once you take berlin you will be faced with a 3 pronged attack near Warsaw or even at Berlin. Italians are useless, and are getting overrun. Yes- you have taken out Spain, but in doing so, You have put 2 or 3 of your gens in the west which you then need to march them to the east to hold off naval attacks from the soviets, a combined Austro-turkish spam as you try to advance onto Vienna, and soviet units coming from the east- not fun.) That's why in these kinds of situations, I like the victory rush boost, as they normally spam a combination of cheap units and expensive units, so even if you don't like cav so much, you must admit that cav gens are the category of generals that you must invest most in.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2021 15:47:52 GMT
Charles Huntziger, Mostly that only works if you have a cav gen on armored cars. Armored cars are like the only good thing about cavalry as a whole. Still, I find infantry and arty to be way superior. Hell, I have a maxed out Hotzendorf that can basically one shot anything. Infantry better than cavalry? |
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Hsueh Yueh
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Yo! It's Hsueh-Yueh here, formerly known as Ismet Inonu. On a hiatus right now.
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Post by Hsueh Yueh on May 7, 2021 15:52:02 GMT
Yes.
1. Mobility
Sure, cavalry can go superfast on plains, but once it comes to mountains and rivers, it's where infantry shines.
2. Price
Cavalry is super expensive.
3. Not good against cities
Cavalry does like no damage against city HP. Infantry however, tend to do a lot more.
4. Bad generals
Cav generals suck. It's literally just Stonewall and Ludendorff/soviet iap guy
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2021 15:53:36 GMT
Yes. 1. Mobility Sure, cavalry can go superfast on plains, but once it comes to mountains and rivers, it's where infantry shines. 2. Price Cavalry is super expensive. 3. Not good against cities Cavalry does like no damage against city HP. Infantry however, tend to do a lot more. 4. Bad generals Cav generals suck. It's literally just Stonewall and Ludendorff/soviet iap guy Now, say this to any other member on this board and see their reaction. |
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Post by ash1234 on May 11, 2021 8:12:55 GMT
Wait a minute. Cav gens suck??!! Infatry also sucks at attacking cities anyways, and mobility skill is kind of useless if you have generals that have terrain skills. You won't always get to put your generals onto hmg's or special units like grenadiers.
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Post by Taizong of Tang on May 11, 2021 10:26:53 GMT
Yes. 1. Mobility Sure, cavalry can go superfast on plains, but once it comes to mountains and rivers, it's where infantry shines. 2. Price Cavalry is super expensive. 3. Not good against cities Cavalry does like no damage against city HP. Infantry however, tend to do a lot more. 4. Bad generals Cav generals suck. It's literally just Stonewall and Ludendorff/soviet iap guy 1. Okay, virgin infantry is quick and can gangbang to make target gloomy, but chad cavalry not only has just enough speed to gangbang but also has skill to increase penetration depending on effort exerted, not to mention cav has protection and can last longer. Instead infantry gain dodge responsibility and brick destruction parlor trick. "Very good, but brick not hit back!" 2. No comment. 3. Tank has 100 base damage, add general with 30% attack bonus plus on favored terrain, it becomes 155, add aura, becomes 175, add precision strike and max range surprise, that is like another +45 damage. Now tank has artillery gun, that is 150% dmg to cities. Compare with guard grenadier,75 attack, so even with a 50% general, it would only reach 107, add terrain with medal, just over 130, add inf commander, 150++, add assault, tunnel and bomb-dropping, you get +60 damage. Now, LMG only deal 75% damage to city defense. With musket, it's only 50%. tank general with 30% attack- 300 to city defense Grenadier general with 50% attack- 180 to city defense 4. Cavalry generals with their default skills are lacking, but if you can invest LOTS of resources on them, they can become mini-Ludendorffs. |
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Post by Taizong of Tang on May 11, 2021 12:24:50 GMT
Charles Huntziger , if dog no bark, it no mean it is cat. If somebody changes username to dominant species of a certain planet, nobody mistakes them for a non-human extraterrestrial spy. 😉
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Hsueh Yueh
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Yo! It's Hsueh-Yueh here, formerly known as Ismet Inonu. On a hiatus right now.
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Post by Hsueh Yueh on May 12, 2021 0:03:08 GMT
Taizong of TangTanks are extremely expensive and limited to 1914/1917. Upgrading stats are also expensive. Just don't waste your money on cav generals, Stonewall/Moltke are good enough for the time being. Arty generals are a much better investment. Boroevic/Haig goes extremely hard (100+ damage) when put on HMG.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2021 1:40:11 GMT
Taizong of TangTanks are extremely expensive and limited to 1914/1917. Upgrading stats are also expensive. Just don't waste your money on cav generals, Stonewall/Moltke are good enough for the time being. Arty generals are a much better investment. Boroevic/Haig goes extremely hard (100+ damage) when put on HMG. HMGs have horrible population cost and how far have you reached in the game? Breastplate Cavalry is also very good, not to mention the op guard sipahi Cavalry Artillery for Armored, Heavy Armor, city defences Cavalry for no armour,light armour (Most of the troops belong to this category) Infantry (militia) as meatsheild. |
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Hsueh Yueh
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Yo! It's Hsueh-Yueh here, formerly known as Ismet Inonu. On a hiatus right now.
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Post by Hsueh Yueh on May 12, 2021 1:55:43 GMT
Charles Huntziger I'm basically done with the game, I mainly use Boroevic, Ivanov, Hotzendorf, Beatty, Lee, Stonewall, and Haig. On like campaign 8 i think
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Post by Taizong of Tang on May 12, 2021 3:05:41 GMT
Taizong of Tang Tanks are extremely expensive and limited to 1914/1917. Upgrading stats are also expensive. Just don't waste your money on cav generals, Stonewall/Moltke are good enough for the time being. Arty generals are a much better investment. Boroevic/Haig goes extremely hard (100+ damage) when put on HMG. I'm pretty much set already. Hindenburg with salvo, storm, tactics, jungle and lvl 6 Arty Commander. Beseler with salvo, storm, tactics, jungle and lvl 6 mountain. Ivanov with salvo, tactics, jungle, mountain and lvl 6 Arty expert. Prince Leopold with salvo, tactics, plains, arty master and lvl 6 rage. Straussenburg with tactics, plains, assault, ambush and lvl 6 infantry Commander Boroevic with assault, intercept, jungle, mountain and lvl 6 tactics. Haig with assault, tunnel, plains, tactics and lvl 6 inspiration. Macmahon, Bochkareva and Micis with assault, intercept, tunnel, tactics and jungle, mountain, desert respectively. Also got Beatty with lvl 6 navy commander, hipper with lvl 6 escort, Bacon with lvl 6 alert, and Duke Aosta with sailor and lvl 6 navy expert. I also got a hybrid, Lee with tactics, revenge, deterrence, suppress and lvl 6 dogfight. By getting 10 cavalry, I can attempt 2 challenge conquests. 1 is no-cavalry conquest with 4 arty and 6 infantry, and a cavalry-only conquest using all 10 cavalry. How glorious would it be, a land war between the two armies, infantry and artillery vs cavalry. In the nearby island, a third party awaits, 1 hybrid with heavy machine gun sits on a temple, blocking the only land path to 3 overlapping cities with princesses Nikolayevna, Louise and Berguzar. While the conflict intensifies 3 Navy and 1 carrier arrive in haste to relieve the siege of the island. |
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Post by STILETT0 on May 19, 2021 20:11:18 GMT
Yes. 1. Mobility Sure, cavalry can go superfast on plains, but once it comes to mountains and rivers, it's where infantry shines. 2. Price Cavalry is super expensive. 3. Not good against cities Cavalry does like no damage against city HP. Infantry however, tend to do a lot more. 4. Bad generals Cav generals suck. It's literally just Stonewall and Ludendorff/soviet iap guy hold my Philly Sherry don't drop it. Also, where did Charles Huntziger go? |
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