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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on May 15, 2021 14:46:34 GMT
EW4 has a few, innovative namings. Which are the correct names? I was searching, but I did not find a thread for this. For reference (actual work in progress) Corrected Names General-Names: Updated general names ;GEN NAME Napoleon = Napoleon Davout = Davout Wellesley = Wellesley Nelson = Nelson Lannes = Lannes Jervis = Jervis Kutuzov = Kutuzov Blucher = Bl"ucher Archduke.C = Archduke Karl Massena = Massena Suchet = Suchet Washington = Washington Dearborn = Dearborn Radetzky = Radetzky Moreau = Moreau Lasalle = Lasalle Dombrowski = Dabrowski Paget = Paget Bagration = Bagration Brock = Brock Barclay = Barclay de Tolly Poniatowski = Poniatowski Suvorov = Suvorov Treville = Treville Cotton = Cotton Soult = Soult AlexanderI = Alexander I. Jackson = Jackson Desaix = Desaix Murat = Murat Golitsyn = Golitsyn Oudinot = Oudinot Berthier = Berthier Wittgenstein = Wittgenstein Jourdan = Jourdan Collingwood = Collingwood Ney = Ney Mortier = Mortier Grouchy = Grouchy Serurier = Serurier Tormasov = Tormasov Raevsky = Raevsky Bernadotte = Bernadotte Sidney = Smith Yorck = Yorck Bennigsen = Bennigsen Savary = Savary MacDonald = MacDonald Sebastiani = Sebastiani Beresford = Beresford Yermolov = Ermolov Dobeln = D"obeln Sulkowski = Sulkowski Scharnhorst = Scharnhorst Drummond = Drummond Joubert = Joubert Duckworth = Duckworth L.Bonaparte = Louis Bonaparte Merveldt = Merveldt Perignon = Perignon JohannI = Liechtenstein Gravina = Gravina Picton = Picton Palafox = Palafox Cornplanter = Cornplanter Verhuell = Ver Huell Hood = Hood Eugene = Eugene Pasha = Pasha Clinton = Clinton Kosciuszko = Kosciuszko Bulow = B"ulow Cornwallis = Cornwallis FerdinandVII = Fernando VII. J.Bonaparte = Joseph Bonaparte WilhelmIII = Wilhelm III. Drouot = Drouot Exelmans = Exelmans Ushakov = Ushakov Gouvion = Saint-Cyr Augereau = Augereau Lefebvre = Lefebvre Kleist = Kleist Fontanelli = Fontanelli Klenau = Klenau Prevost = Prevost Strachan = Strachan Gerard = Gerard Sacken = Osten-Sacken Calder = Calder Eugen = Eugen Wurmser = Wurmser Nenadovic = Nenadovic Nansouty = Nansouty Leiberich = Mack Archduke.J = Archduke Johann Platov = Platov Qajar = Qajar Bruix = Bruix Villeneuve = Villeneuve Clausewitz = Clausewitz SelimIII = Selim III Mehemet.A = Mehemet Ali Claude = Victor Hull = Hull Sokolnicki = Sokolnicki Marmont = Marmont Graham = Graham Dumouriez = Dumouriez Bubna = Bubna Wrede = Wrede Blasius = Baron Bender L'Estocq = L'Estocq Rowland = Hill Weyrother = Weyrother Diez = Diez Arnold = Arnold Buxhoeveden = Buxhoeveden Deroy = Deroy Chichagov = Chichagov Brueys = Brueys Balabio = Balabio Fischer = Fischer Kozietulski = Kozietulski Ballesteros = Ballesteros Galvez = Galvez Baggovut = Baggovut Huarte = Huarte Cronstedt = Cronstedt Joyes = Blake Cisneros = Cisneros Hopkins = Hopkins Frederick = Frederick Chasse = Chasse Gazan = Gazan Carteaux = Carteaux Zakrevsky = Zakrevsky Charles = O'Hara Ferdinand = Ferdinand Bouvet = Bouvet Melas = Melas Saltykov = Saltykov Quosdanovih = Gvozdanovic Godebski = Godebski Mirza = Mirza Vecsey = Vecsey Mercer = Mercer Miloradovih = Miloradovich Murad = Murad HeinrichXV = Heinrich XV. Milinovic = Milinovic Abercromby = Abercromby Bylandt = Bylandt Andrade = Andrade Georg = Georg Wurmb = Wurmb Zebulon = Pike Kruse = Kruse Rosenberg = Rosenberg AugustI = August I. Senyavin = Senyavin Elphinstone = Elphinstone Cosmao = Cosmao AmadeoIII = Amadeo III. Schwerin = Schwerin Hotze = Hotze Kutaisov = Kutaisov Junot = Junot Franquemont = Franquemont Lusignan = Lusignan Latour = Latour Kienmayer = Kienmayer Falsen = Falsen Howe = Howe Kollowrat = Kollowrat Arrighi = Arrighi Bachmann = Bachmann Agha = Agha Greene = Greene Reding = Reding Nunziante = Nunziante Kahia = Kahia Slimane = Suleiman Vandamme = Vandamme Ricardos = Ricardos Jerome = Jerome Bonaparte Janssens = Janssens Mourousis = Mourousis Lechi = Lechi PiusVII = Pius VII. Konopka = Konopka Dobrnjac = Dobrnjac Emil = Emil Dornberg = Dornberg Silveira = Silveira Alten = Alten Davidovich = Davidovic FerdinandoI = Ferdinando I. Karamanli = Karamanli Caradja = Caradja Maria = Maria Sakurako = Sakurako Fatimah = Fatimah Sophia = Sophia Kate = Kate Victoria = Victoria Isabela = Isabela Lan = Lan Seller = Dealer
City-Names: Updated cities 1= London 2= Dublin 3= Edinburgh 4= Letterkenny 5= Elgin 6= Liverpool 7= Plymouth 8= Southampton 9= Sheffield 10= Paris 11= Brest 12= Bordeaux 13= Marseille 14= Ajaccio 15= Lyon 16= Toulouse 17= Florence 18= Toulon 19= Torino 20= Clermont 21= Waterloo 22= Zurich 23= Christiania 24= Copenhagen 25= Stockholm 26= Gothenburg 27= Bergen 28= Karlskrona 29= Kiel 30= Vienna 31= Brunn 32= Austerlitz 33= Kluj 33= Klausenburg 34= Prague 35= Buda 36= Pest 37= Lviv 38= Warsaw 39= Poznan 40= Krakow 41= Berlin 42= Eylau 43= Danzig 44= Madrid 45= Seville 46= Valencia 47= Barcelona 48= Cadiz 49= Zaragoza 50= Lisbon 51= Porto 52= Roma 53= Naples 54= Palermo 55= Cagliari 56= Genvoa 57= Milano 58= Venice 59= Leipzig 60= Jena 61= Dresden 62= Munic 63= Karlsruhe 64= Stuttgart 65= Brunswick 66= Wiesbaden 67= Schwerin 68= Oldenburg 69= Weilburg 70= Amsterdam 71= Moscow 72= Borodino 73= Saint Petersburg 74= Reval 75= Helsinki 76= Riga 77= Vilnius 78= Kiev 79= Odessa 80= Istanbul 81= Athens 82= Sofia 83= Bucharest 84= Belgrade 85= Tirana 86= Nicosia 87= Eskisehir 88= Casablanca 89= Ceuta 90= Oran 91= Algiers 92= Tunisia 93= Tripoli 94= Cairo 95= Alexandria 96= Jekaterinodar 97= Rotterdam 98= Alessandria 99= Verdun 100= Cleveland 101= Mantua 102= Bursa 103= Smyrna 104= Ankara 105= Nantes 106= Strasbourg 107= Nancy 108= Metz 109= Dijon 110= Le Havre 111= Cologne 112= Zagreb 113= Debrecen 114= Bratislava 115= Bremen 116= Hamburg 117= Frankfurt 118= Plock 119= Minsk 120= Voronezh 121= Turku 122= Kharkiv 123= Tver 124= Kaluga 125= Sevastopol 126= Vladimir 127= Ryazan 128= Konigsberg 129= Lacoruna 130= Albacete 131= Salamanca 132= Burgos 133= Bilbao 134= Palma 135= Setubal 136= Faro 137= Glasgow 138= Leeds 139= Bristol 140= Birmingham 141= Catania 142= Littlerock 143= Sassari 144= Bari 145= Orebro 146= Aalborg 147= Kairouan 148= Rabat 149= Benghazi 150= Ismailia 151= Plovdiv 152= Konya 153= Ankara 154= Adana 155= Uskup 156= Heraklion 157= Iasi 158= Kishinev 159= Smolensk 160= New York 161= Philadelphia 162= Boston 163= Augusta 164= Providence 165= Hartford 166= Lexington 167= Detroit 168= Charlotte 169= Saint Louis 170= Trenton 171= Yorktown 172= Richmond 173= Washington 174= Fort William 175= Fort York 176= Quebec City 177= St. Augustine 178= NEW ORLEANS 179= Baltimore 180= Brussels 182= Nashville 183= Montreal 184= Fort Dearborn 185= Savannah 186= Charleston 187= Wilmington 188= Ostrava 189= Lublin 190= Kingston 191= Dayton 192= Louisville
If you have corrections, please add them, I will update the references. π 8. Aug 21 π§
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on May 15, 2021 18:14:13 GMT
There a few generals, where I am not sure. Especial Archduke C, he is imo Francis II. or Franz II. (later! Franz I. of Austria). In ew6 he is called Karl. But what means C ?Archduke J. Is imo Joseph II. ? Archduke is a title, it is like: King C. I tag you Gerd von Rundstedt, because this thread needs your guidiance please. Even for the cities: I.E. Cluj In 1974, the authorities added "-Napoca" etc.
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 15, 2021 21:13:44 GMT
Archduke C is Archduke Charles (Karl in German), Duke of Teschen. Archduke J is Archduke John of Austria.
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Post by Erich von Manstein on May 16, 2021 5:15:49 GMT
Miloradovih -> Miloradovich Quosdanovih -> Quosdanovich -> Gvozdanovic Leiberich -> Mack Dombrowski -> DΔ
browski (Dabrowski?) Charles -> O'Hara Zebulon -> Pike Blasius -> Bender Gouvion -> Saint-Cyr Claude -> Victor Rowland -> Hill Sidney -> Smith Ferdinand VII -> Fernando VII Archduke C. -> Archduke Charles -> Archduke Karl Archduke J. -> Archduke John -> Archduke Johann Davidovich -> Davidovic Yermolov -> Ermolov Johann I -> Liechtenstein Slimane -> Suleiman Verhuell -> Ver Huell Bulow -> BΓΌlow Mehemet A. -> Muhammad Ali J. Bonaparte -> Joseph Bonaparte L. Bonaparte -> Louis Bonaparte (I think you can omit the last name of these two?)
Also, I don't think you need that period behind the generation.
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Post by John Marston on May 16, 2021 6:29:30 GMT
There a few generals, where I am not sure. Especial Archduke C, he is imo Francis II. or Franz II. (later! Franz I. of Austria). In ew6 he is called Karl. But what means C ?Archduke J. Is imo Joseph II. ? Archduke is a title, it is like: King C. I tag you Gerd von Rundstedt , because this thread needs your guidiance please. Even for the cities: I.E. Cluj In 1974, the authorities added "-Napoca" etc. I suppose it is Charles. Also, ET did not include all Napoleonic war generals. Did they?
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Post by Erich von Manstein on May 16, 2021 9:30:45 GMT
There a few generals, where I am not sure. Especial Archduke C, he is imo Francis II. or Franz II. (later! Franz I. of Austria). In ew6 he is called Karl. But what means C ?Archduke J. Is imo Joseph II. ? Archduke is a title, it is like: King C. I tag you Gerd von Rundstedt , because this thread needs your guidiance please. Even for the cities: I.E. Cluj In 1974, the authorities added "-Napoca" etc. I suppose it is Charles. Also, ET did not include all Napoleonic war generals. Did they? Charles is English. In German it should be Karl. Of course they didn't. There are hundreds of generals in that era and easytech can't feature every one of them. The problem is they missed some crucial ones like Gneisenau, Schwarzenberg, etc.
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Post by littlecorporal on May 16, 2021 13:36:24 GMT
This is a great thread! I really like viewing the list of generals.
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on May 16, 2021 17:16:28 GMT
Miloradovih -> Miloradovich Quosdanovih -> QuosdanovichΒ -> Gvozdanovic Leiberich -> Mack Dombrowski -> DΔ
browski (Dabrowski?) Charles -> O'Hara Zebulon -> Pike Blasius -> Bender Gouvion -> Saint-Cyr Claude -> Victor Rowland -> Hill Sidney -> Smith Ferdinand VII -> Fernando VII Archduke C. -> Archduke Charles -> Archduke Karl Archduke J. -> Archduke John -> Archduke Johann Davidovich -> Davidovic Yermolov -> Ermolov Johann I ->Β Liechtenstein Slimane -> Suleiman Verhuell -> Ver Huell Bulow -> BΓΌlow Mehemet A. -> Muhammad Ali J. Bonaparte -> Joseph Bonaparte L. Bonaparte -> Louis Bonaparte (I think you can omit the last name of these two?) Also, I don't think you need that period behind the generation. WOW - This is great ! Thank you a lot Erich von Manstein - I updated the list. I name Muhammad Ali Pasha, Mehmet Ali because we reference him as general. For Selim III, I removed the point, I thought the others have a . behind their ordinal. Maybe Gerd von Rundstedt knows it exactly. So great to have the correct names. When we are finished I will post this corrections even in the modding board, to get more correct mods.
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Post by Darth Vader on May 17, 2021 1:26:16 GMT
Miloradovih -> Miloradovich Quosdanovih -> Quosdanovich -> Gvozdanovic Leiberich -> Mack Dombrowski -> DΔ
browski (Dabrowski?) Charles -> O'Hara Zebulon -> Pike Blasius -> Bender Gouvion -> Saint-Cyr Claude -> Victor Rowland -> Hill Sidney -> Smith Ferdinand VII -> Fernando VII Archduke C. -> Archduke Charles -> Archduke Karl Archduke J. -> Archduke John -> Archduke Johann Davidovich -> Davidovic Yermolov -> Ermolov Johann I -> Liechtenstein Slimane -> Suleiman Verhuell -> Ver Huell Bulow -> BΓΌlow Mehemet A. -> Muhammad Ali J. Bonaparte -> Joseph Bonaparte L. Bonaparte -> Louis Bonaparte (I think you can omit the last name of these two?) Also, I don't think you need that period behind the generation. WOW - This is great ! Thank you a lot Erich von Manstein - I updated the list. I name Muhammad Ali Pasha, Mehmet Ali because we reference him as general. For Selim III, I removed the point, I thought the others have a . behind their ordinal. Maybe Gerd von Rundstedt knows it exactly. So great to have the correct names. When we are finished I will post this corrections even in the modding board, to get more correct mods. These seems like great names to put in the string files.
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on May 17, 2021 4:04:31 GMT
WOW - This is great ! Thank you a lot Erich von Manstein - I updated the list. I name Muhammad Ali Pasha, Mehmet Ali because we reference him as general. For Selim III, I removed the point, I thought the others have a . behind their ordinal. Maybe Gerd von Rundstedt knows it exactly. So great to have the correct names. When we are finished I will post this corrections even in the modding board, to get more correct mods. These seems like great names to put in the string files. Look at the spoiler in the first post - it is the updated stringfile. I will add an EW4 resource thread in the modding board when its finished
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jun 28, 2021 12:39:00 GMT
Here's a few more: Joyes -> Blake Ferdinand -> Braunschweig Schwerin -> Mecklenburg-Schwerin Frederick -> Karl Friedrich Jerome -> Jerome Bonaparte Sacken -> Osten-Sacken
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Post by John Marston on Jul 16, 2021 4:27:21 GMT
Miloradovih -> Miloradovich Quosdanovih -> Quosdanovich -> Gvozdanovic Leiberich -> Mack Dombrowski -> DΔ
browski (Dabrowski?) Charles -> O'Hara Zebulon -> Pike Blasius -> Bender Gouvion -> Saint-Cyr Claude -> Victor Rowland -> Hill Sidney -> Smith Ferdinand VII -> Fernando VII Archduke C. -> Archduke Charles -> Archduke Karl Archduke J. -> Archduke John -> Archduke Johann Davidovich -> Davidovic Yermolov -> Ermolov Johann I -> Liechtenstein Slimane -> Suleiman Verhuell -> Ver Huell Bulow -> BΓΌlow Mehemet A. -> Muhammad Ali J. Bonaparte -> Joseph Bonaparte L. Bonaparte -> Louis Bonaparte (I think you can omit the last name of these two?) Also, I don't think you need that period behind the generation. Well, some things - 1. I think Dombrowski is French, Dabrowski is German 2. Charles is possibly not O'Hara because ET does not show him in neither Coalition, not Imperial Eagle's "Battle of Toulon" mission. (He was the leader of the English forces in Toulon). 3. Claude was Victor himself (Claude Victor Perrin) 4. Same for Sidney (Sidney Smith) 5. I think Ferdinand is Ferdinand himself ( Ferdinand VII) Not mentioned here, but Amadeo III -> Colli
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jul 16, 2021 6:44:07 GMT
Miloradovih -> Miloradovich Quosdanovih -> Quosdanovich -> Gvozdanovic Leiberich -> Mack Dombrowski -> DΔ
browski (Dabrowski?) Charles -> O'Hara Zebulon -> Pike Blasius -> Bender Gouvion -> Saint-Cyr Claude -> Victor Rowland -> Hill Sidney -> Smith Ferdinand VII -> Fernando VII Archduke C. -> Archduke Charles -> Archduke Karl Archduke J. -> Archduke John -> Archduke Johann Davidovich -> Davidovic Yermolov -> Ermolov Johann I -> Liechtenstein Slimane -> Suleiman Verhuell -> Ver Huell Bulow -> BΓΌlow Mehemet A. -> Muhammad Ali J. Bonaparte -> Joseph Bonaparte L. Bonaparte -> Louis Bonaparte (I think you can omit the last name of these two?) Also, I don't think you need that period behind the generation. Well, some things - 1. I think Dombrowski is French, Dabrowski is German 2. Charles is possibly not O'Hara because ET does not show him in neither Coalition, not Imperial Eagle's "Battle of Toulon" mission. (He was the leader of the English forces in Toulon). 3. Claude was Victor himself (Claude Victor Perrin) 4. Same for Sidney (Sidney Smith) 5. I think Ferdinand is Ferdinand himself ( Ferdinand VII) Not mentioned here, but Amadeo III -> Colli1. Dombrowski's name in Polish is Jan Henryk DΔ
browski. 2. He shows up in SNS. There was a discussion on whether Charles is Lee or O'Hara, and I agree with O'Hara. 3&4&5. Yes, but easytech are using neither their native language or the more commonly used terms. People call Victor-Perrin either Victor or Victor-Perrin, Claude doesn't make sense. Same for Sidney Smith. Ferdinand VII is technically correct, but since he's Spanish it makes more sense to use the Spanish form.
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Jul 16, 2021 8:49:44 GMT
Well, some things - 1. I think Dombrowski is French, Dabrowski is German 2. Charles is possiblyΒ notΒ O'Hara because ET does not show him in neither Coalition, not Imperial Eagle's "Battle of Toulon" mission. (He was the leader of the English forces in Toulon). 3. Claude was Victor himself (Claude Victor Perrin) 4. Same for Sidney (Sidney Smith) 5. I think Ferdinand is Ferdinand himself ( Ferdinand VII) Not mentioned here, but Amadeo III ->Β Colli1. Dombrowski's name in Polish isΒ Jan Henryk DΔ
browski. 2. He shows up in SNS. There was a discussion on whether Charles is Lee or O'Hara, and I agree with O'Hara. 3&4&5. Yes, but easytech are using neither their native language or the more commonly used terms. People call Victor-Perrin either Victor or Victor-Perrin, Claude doesn't make sense. Same for Sidney Smith. Ferdinand VII is technically correct, but since he's Spanish it makes more sense to use the Spanish form. I did not answer untill now, cause I am still working on this verry interresting questions. 1) DΔ
browski is the correct Name of this national hero in oland. Dombrowski is the german transcription. He is even in the Arc d'e Triumph, there his name is written: DOMBROWSKY We don't have 'Δ
', so I write him Dabrowski. 2) I am missing knowledge. 3,4,5) I found all this names much more precise. I took some time to add umlautz to the game, now BlΓΌcher, BΓΉlow and DΓΆbeln can be correct. Amadeo III ->Β Colli Great ! Thank you John Marston, I had no idea before who Amadeo could be. Edit: I already copied this, and then I found Vittorio Amedeo III di Savoia
re di Sardegna dal 1773 al 1796
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Post by ππ³π°π΅π΄π¬πΊ on Jul 16, 2021 9:19:28 GMT
First response: Here's a few more: Joyes -> Blake βοΈ - Very nice Jerome -> Jerome Bonaparte βοΈ Sacken -> Osten-Sacken βοΈ Schwerin -> Mecklenburg-Schwerin I don't believe the general named Mecklenburg-Schwerin was still active during the Napoleonic Wars. I have no Idea witch general Schwerin from Prussia ET means: Napoleon defeated even at Waterloo one of them. π€ - quite confusing tbc....
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