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Post by War Emperor on May 29, 2021 7:02:54 GMT
hi I am doing a thorough analysis of Generals for my youtube channel. Since i have started the game only recently, I cannot see the medal cost for several generals. Would be great if someone could share this info for these generals Ushijima Terauchi Kuribayashi Yamaguchi Heinrici Ozawa Riccardi Kleist Kuchler Koga Greim Schorner Kondo Nenonen Kluge Dumitrescu ![]() Much appreciated!! |
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Post by 曹操 on May 29, 2021 8:13:08 GMT
Ushijima=720 Medals Terauchi=580 medals Kuribayashi=615 medals Yamaguchi=455 medals Heinrici=390 Medals Ozawa= Free generals Riccardi= Free Generals Kleist=295 medals Kuchler=275 medals Koga=215 Medals Greim=195 medals Schorner=225 medals Kondo=210 medals Nenonen=180 Medals Kluge=190 medals Dumitrescu=140 medals War Emperor |
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Post by War Emperor on May 29, 2021 8:20:44 GMT
thank you so much, appreciated. I will credit you in the video
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 29, 2021 12:34:35 GMT
thank you so much, appreciated. I will credit you in the video If you trash my boy.Ushijima... |
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Post by STILETT0 on May 29, 2021 14:27:41 GMT
thank you so much, appreciated. I will credit you in the video If you trash my boy.Ushijima... Even Kuribayashi is better |
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Post by War Emperor on May 29, 2021 15:02:38 GMT
ooops. I did. Ushijima is truly terrible. I ranked him 11th among the Axis Infantry. Kuribayashi is great, I ranked him #3 after Eisenhower and Yamashita.
If you are interested, this is my video covering all Axis generals
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 29, 2021 21:02:36 GMT
ooops. I did. Ushijima is truly terrible. I ranked him 11th among the Axis Infantry. Kuribayashi is great, I ranked him #3 after Eisenhower and Yamashita. If you are interested, this is my video covering all Axis generals Gasp! You put Both Kuribayashi and Yamashita above Rundstedt? That seems odd. |
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Post by STILETT0 on May 29, 2021 21:57:22 GMT
ooops. I did. Ushijima is truly terrible. I ranked him 11th among the Axis Infantry. Kuribayashi is great, I ranked him #3 after Eisenhower and Yamashita. If you are interested, this is my video covering all Axis generals The generals definitely depend on your playstyle. If you are more for a steady, reliable amount of damage then Yamashita is your guy. If you want sort of low damage with lots of critical hits, then Rundstedt would be for you. It is a sort of Tassigny vs Tito argument, where Tito just doesn't shore up to Tassigny as he is lacking in a skill and has one less infantry medal. However, Gerd von Rundstedt, Ushijima is just overpriced, only about 100 medals cheaper than Yamashita. You may not regret buying him now, but one day you will. I know what it's like to be you, I still see Tito as a reliable and cheap infantry general, but while he hasn't done terribly in the Pacific, the cracks will surely show in the more tank centric North Africa. War Emperor, how did you rate Tito? He may look trash on paper, but he has really worked out for me. He carried me through the land missions during the PAcific chapter, and was once again a good general for Eastern Front. |
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Post by Nhyjj on May 29, 2021 23:35:43 GMT
ooops. I did. Ushijima is truly terrible. I ranked him 11th among the Axis Infantry. Kuribayashi is great, I ranked him #3 after Eisenhower and Yamashita. If you are interested, this is my video covering all Axis generals Gasp! You put Both Kuribayashi and Yamashita above Rundstedt? That seems odd. Rundstedt is over Kuribayashi there’s no question about it. On the Yamashita vs Rundstedt argument, I feel like we can’t compare them because they have a playstyle that is so different. Yamashita is more a Blitzkrieg like General, perfect for the first four chapters where he can keep up with Guderian’s and Rommel’s fast advance threw enemy lines. Rundstedt, on his side, is like an elephant. He is advancing slowly, but he will survive until the end, wrecking every enemies he meets. If feel that he’s perfect for the last two chapters slow advance. I also always choose him over Yamashita when doing the Antarctic campaign, because I know he’ll survive longer than him (yeah I got both). So that’s why I think as infantry generals, they are equals, but I feel that Rundstedt has a little advantage because he can play on Heavies too. Briefly, If you love Blitzkrieg just like me, choose Yamashita, I you prefer a more slow approach, take Rundstedt. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 29, 2021 23:37:04 GMT
ooops. I did. Ushijima is truly terrible. I ranked him 11th among the Axis Infantry. Kuribayashi is great, I ranked him #3 after Eisenhower and Yamashita. If you are interested, this is my video covering all Axis generals The generals definitely depend on your playstyle. If you are more for a steady, reliable amount of damage then Yamashita is your guy. If you want sort of low damage with lots of critical hits, then Rundstedt would be for you. It is a sort of Tassigny vs Tito argument, where Tito just doesn't shore up to Tassigny as he is lacking in a skill and has one less infantry medal. However, Gerd von Rundstedt, Ushijima is just overpriced, only about 100 medals cheaper than Yamashita. You may not regret buying him now, but one day you will. I know what it's like to be you, I still see Tito as a reliable and cheap infantry general, but while he hasn't done terribly in the Pacific, the cracks will surely show in the more tank centric North Africa. War Emperor, how did you rate Tito? He may look trash on paper, but he has really worked out for me. He carried me through the land missions during the PAcific chapter, and was once again a good general for Eastern Front. , I have finished Pacific '45 and just have to complete 3rd El Alamein in order to stage clear All theatres. I think I have gotten far enough to guage Ushijima. |
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Post by War Emperor on May 30, 2021 0:20:14 GMT
Of course, this is not the bible and depends on style and has some degree of subjectivity.
For me Yamashita is better as: stronger fire power (32 vs. 25 according to my Equivalent attack coefficient: 20 from 4 star infantry + 12 from bayonet vs. Rundstedt 20 * 1.24, the chance of attacking again). IMO Guerrilla and Fire suppression are equivalent. And Yamashita is fast, Rundstedt a snail. So for me there is no competition, pretty clear.
Kuribayashi's Equivalized Attack coefficient is slightly better than Rundstedt 27 vs. 25, has 24% chance for critical hit rate and costs less with an Attack/Cost coefficient of 4.39 vs. Rundstedt of 2.71 the third lowest among the Axis infantry generals. The issue about Rundstedt is that he has 2 stars in almost every military unit : useless stars that boost his cost.
I have not reviewed yet the Allies generals. It took me several hours to do this analysis and GOG3 does not have the same level of viewership I get with World Conqueror or EW6, so I am prioritizing content in those platforms.
Cheers
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 30, 2021 1:11:17 GMT
Of course, this is not the bible and depends on style and has some degree of subjectivity. For me Yamashita is better as: stronger fire power (32 vs. 25 according to my Equivalent attack coefficient: 20 from 4 star infantry + 12 from bayonet vs. Rundstedt 20 * 1.24, the chance of attacking again). IMO Guerrilla and Fire suppression are equivalent. And Yamashita is fast, Rundstedt a snail. So for me there is no competition, pretty clear. Kuribayashi's Equivalized Attack coefficient is slightly better than Rundstedt 27 vs. 25, has 24% chance for critical hit rate and costs less with an Attack/Cost coefficient of 4.39 vs. Rundstedt of 2.71 the third lowest among the Axis infantry generals. The issue about Rundstedt is that he has 2 stars in almost every military unit : useless stars that boost his cost. I have not reviewed yet the Allies generals. It took me several hours to do this analysis and GOG3 does not have the same level of viewership I get with World Conqueror or EW6, so I am prioritizing content in those platforms. Cheers I would like to mention that 1. You are taking the +24% damage from IL and adding that to his stars. Unfortunately, his stars are not his only damage. Inf have a base Damage of around 35, with stars is 55 in which his IL would give another 14 base damage. Also, Bayonet doesn't work on counterattacks. Fire Supression is far Superior to Guerilla (consistency). Plunder=Samurai. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on May 30, 2021 1:38:52 GMT
Rundstedt's extra stars in tank and Air are very useful.
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Post by Nhyjj on May 30, 2021 1:57:46 GMT
Rundstedt's extra stars in tank and Air are very useful. I agree |
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Post by Nhyjj on May 30, 2021 2:11:43 GMT
Of course, this is not the bible and depends on style and has some degree of subjectivity. For me Yamashita is better as: stronger fire power (32 vs. 25 according to my Equivalent attack coefficient: 20 from 4 star infantry + 12 from bayonet vs. Rundstedt 20 * 1.24, the chance of attacking again). IMO Guerrilla and Fire suppression are equivalent. And Yamashita is fast, Rundstedt a snail. So for me there is no competition, pretty clear. Kuribayashi's Equivalized Attack coefficient is slightly better than Rundstedt 27 vs. 25, has 24% chance for critical hit rate and costs less with an Attack/Cost coefficient of 4.39 vs. Rundstedt of 2.71 the third lowest among the Axis infantry generals. The issue about Rundstedt is that he has 2 stars in almost every military unit : useless stars that boost his cost. I have not reviewed yet the Allies generals. It took me several hours to do this analysis and GOG3 does not have the same level of viewership I get with World Conqueror or EW6, so I am prioritizing content in those platforms. Cheers I have to take Gerd von Rundstedt,’s side on that one I taught the same as you for a long time, I taught that Guerilla was as good as Fire suppression, but it’s totally wrong. Fire suppression makes you take less damage all the time. A charge that would take half a bar of life makes it take like a quarter of life, while Guerilla, statistically triggers every 2 turns, but it triggers more every 3 or 4 turns. If we do it on a six turn run. Rundstedt loses 1/4 of bar every attack so 1/4 + 1/4 + 1/4 + 1/4 + 1/4 + 1/4 = 6/4 so 1 and 1/2 bar of life Yamashita loses 1/2 bar of life, but get’s no damage on two attacks so 1/2 + 1/2 + 0/2 + 1/2 + 1/2 + 0/2 = 8/4 so 2 bar of life... and that’s on good scenarios. On bad scenarios he could lose 3 bar of life for 6 attacks, wich added to the damage made by ennemies, he just wouldn’t make it to the 4th attack. breifly, Fire suppression is way better because of his consistency. |
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