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Post by imkhoa3 on Jun 22, 2021 7:00:04 GMT
Yea , so according to mr " godly logic " runstedt , ushijima is a " GOoD LiGhT ArTy " gen but ushijima is trash at arty ngl
1. This guy only have 2 stars arty ( same like yamashita ) and with that tiny little damage (even crowd tactics ) , he can do crap
2. Let take a look at his skills
1. Scout : uhm... this skill suck if u have high tech ( u must have high tech)
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Crowd tactics : decent skills but not really good
3. Desperate : kinda decent tank skills but arty ( even heavy one) have tiny little health and can quiclky killed so this skills trash at light arty
Conclusion :tiny damage , trash skills
Go have badoglio and leeb instead
For runstedt : stop screaming lime this gen is a god
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Jun 22, 2021 12:30:40 GMT
Yea , so according to mr " godly logic " runstedt , ushijima is a " GOoD LiGhT ArTy " gen but ushijima is trash at arty ngl 1. This guy only have 2 stars arty ( same like yamashita ) and with that tiny little damage (even crowd tactics ) , he can do crap 2. Let take a look at his skills 1. Scout : uhm... this skill suck if u have high tech ( u must have high tech) 2 Crowd tactics : decent skills but not really good 3. Desperate : kinda decent tank skills but arty ( even heavy one) have tiny little health and can quiclky killed so this skills trash at light arty Conclusion :tiny damage , trash skills Go have badoglio and leeb instead For runstedt : stop screaming lime this gen is a god OoOooOOofF. The thing is, rather than a necessarily "good" light Arty gen, he is rather your only option for a third Arty gen. Scout IMO on artillery, while not good, pairs well with Crowd Tactics and Desperate. If you are being hit, you will lose stacks, have to regain them, and will lose XP in the process. Therefore, when paired with the other two, it rises above trash into "collecting dust, but we still have it because we might need it sometime in the future". His skills individually may be poor, but together, together they can rise up, and fulfill their dreams. As for the nickname? That's my new status. |
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Post by imkhoa3 on Jun 23, 2021 11:23:24 GMT
bro , desperate and crowd tactics is not like guerilla , u still lost stack
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Jun 23, 2021 11:25:23 GMT
bro , desperate and crowd tactics is not like guerilla , u still lost stack I agree, but it is still relatively cheap to recruit and replenish. It helps in the long run rather than the short. Crowd Tactics gives +10 damage practically all the time. |
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Post by nochbv on Jun 28, 2021 17:19:22 GMT
I have to go with Rundstedt on this one
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Jun 28, 2021 17:47:31 GMT
I have to go with Rundstedt on this one Yes, but we are talking about if Ushijima is trash, rather than if so and so is better. |
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Post by imkhoa3 on Jun 29, 2021 7:39:11 GMT
bro , desperate and crowd tactics is not like guerilla , u still lost stack I agree, but it is still relatively cheap to recruit and replenish. It helps in the long run rather than the short. Crowd Tactics gives +10 damage practically all the time. Cheap to recruit and replenish  ? Bro , desperate and crowd tactics is not like leadership , u still need to spend 5 to replenish and 10 to recruit , also , crowd tactics only give 10 damage only when u units is more ur enemy units and bayonet charge give 12 damage to infantry all the time |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Jun 29, 2021 11:30:19 GMT
I agree, but it is still relatively cheap to recruit and replenish. It helps in the long run rather than the short. Crowd Tactics gives +10 damage practically all the time. Cheap to recruit and replenish ? Bro , desperate and crowd tactics is not like leadership , u still need to spend 5 to replenish and 10 to recruit , also , crowd tactics only give 10 damage only when u units is more ur enemy units and bayonet charge give 12 damage to infantry all the time Desperate saves money in that it increases survivability. Lower morale equals less damage taken equals less stacks to be bought for both you and your Allies. The thing about CT is that it is incredibly easy to trigger, works for all units, and also works on the counterattack (Bayonet Charge doesn't). |
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Post by imkhoa3 on Jul 1, 2021 8:57:09 GMT
Cheap to recruit and replenish ? Bro , desperate and crowd tactics is not like leadership , u still need to spend 5 to replenish and 10 to recruit , also , crowd tactics only give 10 damage only when u units is more ur enemy units and bayonet charge give 12 damage to infantry all the time Desperate saves money in that it increases survivability. Lower morale equals less damage taken equals less stacks to be bought for both you and your Allies. The thing about CT is that it is incredibly easy to trigger, works for all units, and also works on the counterattack (Bayonet Charge doesn't). 1 , bayonet charge work on counter attack 2. Ya still need to spend 15 to replenish and recruit 3.also if enemies are ranged ( heavy arty , heavy tank ) , desperate will be hot garbage |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Jul 1, 2021 11:23:09 GMT
Desperate saves money in that it increases survivability. Lower morale equals less damage taken equals less stacks to be bought for both you and your Allies. The thing about CT is that it is incredibly easy to trigger, works for all units, and also works on the counterattack (Bayonet Charge doesn't). 1 , bayonet charge work on counter attack 2. Ya still need to spend 15 to replenish and recruit 3.also if enemies are ranged ( heavy arty , heavy tank ) , desperate will be hot garbage 1. No, it doesn't. 2. Agreed, but survivability is always an economic skill, i.e. you lose less stacks, you replenish less stacks. 3. Not if he is on light Arty, an beside, most enemies are range 1 anyway. |
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Post by imkhoa3 on Jul 2, 2021 4:04:40 GMT
1. Crowd tactics only work when u have more allies force than the enenmies
2. Light arty have tiny amount of health so desperate wont save him from losing stack
3.so u still need to replenish stack
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Post by nochbv on Jul 2, 2021 8:37:04 GMT
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Post by 6Johnny23 on Jul 2, 2021 13:43:36 GMT
Yea , so according to mr " godly logic " runstedt , ushijima is a " GOoD LiGhT ArTy " gen but ushijima is trash at arty ngl 1. This guy only have 2 stars arty ( same like yamashita ) and with that tiny little damage (even crowd tactics ) , he can do crap 2. Let take a look at his skills 1. Scout : uhm... this skill suck if u have high tech ( u must have high tech) 2 Crowd tactics : decent skills but not really good 3. Desperate : kinda decent tank skills but arty ( even heavy one) have tiny little health and can quiclky killed so this skills trash at light arty Conclusion :tiny damage , trash skills Go have badoglio and leeb instead For runstedt : stop screaming lime this gen is a god OoOooOOofF. The thing is, rather than a necessarily "good" light Arty gen, he is rather your only option for a third Arty gen. Scout IMO on artillery, while not good, pairs well with Crowd Tactics and Desperate. If you are being hit, you will lose stacks, have to regain them, and will lose XP in the process. Therefore, when paired with the other two, it rises above trash into "collecting dust, but we still have it because we might need it sometime in the future". His skills individually may be poor, but together, together they can rise up, and fulfill their dreams. As for the nickname? That's my new status. Yeah, I JUST got GOG3 like 2 weeks ago so take this with a grain of salt, but doesn't Chuikov exist? I mean, Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus 's ranks Ushijima as Below Average, and 3 arty generals are in the highest tier, 4 if Zhukov is included. We can also see that de Gaulle has Desperate and sucks. Scout seems like a good exp grind but in this case since arty is slow and all of the good special forces are gone, all of the enemy will be seen by other generals as you won't focus on scouting generals with him. And isn't he mainly an infantry general? Infantry is the only unit that can get 4 stacks, so CT will always activate if you keep stacking if I'm taking the description literally. But I am curious, is what's his damage compared to someone like Badoglio? |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Jul 4, 2021 1:09:18 GMT
OoOooOOofF. The thing is, rather than a necessarily "good" light Arty gen, he is rather your only option for a third Arty gen. Scout IMO on artillery, while not good, pairs well with Crowd Tactics and Desperate. If you are being hit, you will lose stacks, have to regain them, and will lose XP in the process. Therefore, when paired with the other two, it rises above trash into "collecting dust, but we still have it because we might need it sometime in the future". His skills individually may be poor, but together, together they can rise up, and fulfill their dreams. As for the nickname? That's my new status. Yeah, I JUST got GOG3 like 2 weeks ago so take this with a grain of salt, but doesn't Chuikov exist? I mean, Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus 's ranks Ushijima as Below Average, and 3 arty generals are in the highest tier, 4 if Zhukov is included. We can also see that de Gaulle has Desperate and sucks. Scout seems like a good exp grind but in this case since arty is slow and all of the good special forces are gone, all of the enemy will be seen by other generals as you won't focus on scouting generals with him. And isn't he mainly an infantry general? Infantry is the only unit that can get 4 stacks, so CT will always activate if you keep stacking if I'm taking the description literally. But I am curious, is what's his damage compared to someone like Badoglio? There are only two Arty gens for the Axis better than him, because you can't use Allied gens. Desperate, again, is a situational skill that most of the time (when not fighting a general) is bad. When you are, though, it is a lifesaver. Scout is good for both the infantry (Da50 or White Death) and Arty (Italian). He is a hybrid, IMO the third best Inf and Arty. The thing is, his Arty also means he will need less stacks, so it is about equal, IMO. Your thoughts on it is right. His damage is higher than Kuribayashi on infantry on average, and on Artillery, it is lower by 7 damage (non-crits) on Attack, higher by 3 on Counterattack, assuming his CT triggers (which it will). |
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Post by 6Johnny23 on Jul 4, 2021 1:22:16 GMT
Yeah, I JUST got GOG3 like 2 weeks ago so take this with a grain of salt, but doesn't Chuikov exist? I mean, Friedrich “Fried Rice” Paulus 's ranks Ushijima as Below Average, and 3 arty generals are in the highest tier, 4 if Zhukov is included. We can also see that de Gaulle has Desperate and sucks. Scout seems like a good exp grind but in this case since arty is slow and all of the good special forces are gone, all of the enemy will be seen by other generals as you won't focus on scouting generals with him. And isn't he mainly an infantry general? Infantry is the only unit that can get 4 stacks, so CT will always activate if you keep stacking if I'm taking the description literally. But I am curious, is what's his damage compared to someone like Badoglio? There are only two Arty gens for the Axis better than him, because you can't use Allied gens. Desperate, again, is a situational skill that most of the time (when not fighting a general) is bad. When you are, though, it is a lifesaver. Scout is good for both the infantry (Da50 or White Death) and Arty (Italian). He is a hybrid, IMO the third best Inf and Arty. The thing is, his Arty also means he will need less stacks, so it is about equal, IMO. Your thoughts on it is right. His damage is higher than Kuribayashi on infantry on average, and on Artillery, it is lower by 7 damage (non-crits) on Attack, higher by 3 on Counterattack, assuming his CT triggers (which it will). Ushijima will need to: 1. Stay near cities for crowd tactics to (almost) always activate. 2. Move to get that sweet exp See what I'm getting at? Arty ain't that common in campaigns (as a noob), and you got Badoglio and Leeb, and say it with me boys, Guderian and Rommel. My opinion on mybrids in layman's terms is this: Hybrid: 50%: ___ and 50%: ___ = 50% efficiency Full General: 100%: ___ = 100% efficiency 3rd best infantry? Yamashita, Rundstedt, Mannerheim? |
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? Bro , desperate and crowd tactics is not like leadership , u still need to spend 5 to replenish and 10 to recruit , also , crowd tactics only give 10 damage only when u units is more ur enemy units and bayonet charge give 12 damage to infantry all the time
