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Post by yuanzhong on Aug 12, 2021 14:22:38 GMT
Alright then. I challenge you. You can take as much time as you want. You don't need to do this (I'm also tired of arguing about Guderian, Crassus ...). Just let them keep their opinions as they're hardcore player 😉. We have enough data to prove that Guderian is good (from playes with their known record or evidence, not just talk). Keep focusing on your work now, bro, it's very nice work. I remember when I was a newbie finding how to play EW4 properly in this forum. This kind of work helped me alot. |
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Post by John Marston on Aug 12, 2021 14:24:18 GMT
 YamashitaType of General : Infantry
If you ask me, Yamashita is probably the best infantry general, with Rundstedt coming in close second. Guerilla is similar to Blitzkrieg i.e. a 50% chance he enemy won't counterattack. Bayonet Charge gives him additional damage buff and Samurai prevents his morale from being dropped, which means he can attack as many times he want, without the fearing of going into low morale. Give him a Wiking/Grenadier and he turns into an armored grinder.
I feel that Yamashita and Rundstedt are both at the opposite poles. Rundstedt being a survivor and Yamashita, a heavy lifter. But since infantry are easy to recruit and replenish, I can easily give Yamashita the edge in Infantry. Your perspective and your choice on who to buy depends on whether you want a high damage dealing offensive general or a survivor who deals moderate damage. |
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Post by John Marston on Aug 12, 2021 14:25:52 GMT
Alright then. I challenge you. You can take as much time as you want. You don't need to do this (I'm also tired of arguing about Guderian, Crassus ...). Just let them keep their opinions as they're hardcore player 😉. We have enough data to prove that Guderian is good (from playes with their known record or evidence, not just talk). Keep focusing on your work now, bro, it's very nice work. I remember when I was a newbie finding how to play EW4 properly in this forum. This kind of work helped me alot. Thanks a lot  I was a bit flared up at that time. |
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Post by John Marston on Aug 12, 2021 14:34:00 GMT
KesselringType of General : Air/Infantry
Kesselring is another general whose place is hotly contested with Yamamoto. Air force cluster is gives him +15 damage. Dive bombing is another great skill, though Victory Rush is situational. I feel that Kesselring should be the one who must be picked up because he can survive for quite sometime if the airport is near a battlefield. Yamamoto doesn't has any infantry ability so he might not last long out there. Might not be the best Airforce general, but a good one with infantry talent too nonetheless. |
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Post by John Marston on Aug 12, 2021 14:43:21 GMT
 YamamotoType of General : Navy/Airforce
Yamamoto is the best Airforce general in the game. Carpet bombing, Dive bombing and Air force cluster, all supplement his 4 stars in Air, which is really huge. However, Yamamoto performs his role the best in Aircraft carriers. On land, the frontline shifts continuosly and he has to paratroop from one place to the other, in which he's a crap, especially since he has no infantry stars. He can't take many hits and if there's no economy to use on airforce, then you have wasted on general slot for that mission. Still, his airforce ability is extremely good, which makes him a tough competitor for that airforce slot. |
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Post by John Marston on Aug 12, 2021 14:58:07 GMT
 MannerheimType of General : Infantry
Mannerheim is basically Rundstedt without survivability. What!? then what is he useful for? Rumor is weak. Sniper is extremely good for infantry. Couple it with White Death then he becomes an infantry killing machine. Accurate strike is a 'good' skill, but this isn't really enough to make up for that lost damage. Really scaled down from the likes of WC3. |
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Post by stoic on Aug 12, 2021 15:50:00 GMT
Well, as a living witness I can testify that it is possible to complete with flying colours all campaigns in GoG3 without Guderian.  And that was long ago, even before ranks' upgrades and SF boost.  But, truth be told, I don't think that it is a great achievement or something of the sort. GoG3 is not a difficult game. Not even close to GoG Classic and Pacific in this respect. So, no-one is really indispensable. But Guderian is a good and useful general. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Aug 12, 2021 16:23:26 GMT
Also, buildings don't count as plains in this game.
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Aug 12, 2021 16:24:32 GMT
All right. For all those who say Guderian is hype, I challenge them to perfect clear all the Axis levels without Guderian. *ahem* Moi. But I did have the victory Medal, as well as the secret of Ushijima. In fact, it was without Guderian, Leeb, Yamashita, Rokossovsky, Slim, or Patton. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Aug 12, 2021 16:30:57 GMT
Just a note, on inf, IL does more damage than Bayonet. The Leader skills always do more damage than Flat skills, as long as the gen has at least 2 (3?) Stars.
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Aug 12, 2021 16:33:25 GMT
 EisenhowerPrice - 7$
Type of general : Infantry
The first thoughts on seeing Eisenhower "MEH". Eisenhower's skills are really bad. Crowd Tactics is mostly useless. Inspiration is an ok skill. He has 5 stars in infantry to cover his skills. But that extra star isn't enough. Top tier infantry general like Yamashita and MacArthur can beat him any day. However, he has Army group which gives +15 attack to infantry allies around him. He is better used as a supporting general I feel. 7$ might not be worth for him. Also a note, CT is not mostly useless. Anytime you have more stacks than an enemy, you get +10 dmg, either attack, or counter. |
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Post by John Marston on Aug 13, 2021 2:47:32 GMT
EisenhowerPrice - 7$
Type of general : Infantry
The first thoughts on seeing Eisenhower "MEH". Eisenhower's skills are really bad. Crowd Tactics is mostly useless. Inspiration is an ok skill. He has 5 stars in infantry to cover his skills. But that extra star isn't enough. Top tier infantry general like Yamashita and MacArthur can beat him any day. However, he has Army group which gives +15 attack to infantry allies around him. He is better used as a supporting general I feel. 7$ might not be worth for him. Also a note, CT is not mostly useless. Anytime you have more stacks than an enemy, you get +10 dmg, either attack, or counter. Infantry have low health and can lose stacks easily, unless you are in a building and have good economy. |
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Post by John Marston on Aug 13, 2021 2:51:23 GMT
Just a note, on inf, IL does more damage than Bayonet. The Leader skills always do more damage than Flat skills, as long as the gen has at least 2 (3?) Stars. But I prefer more damage than repeatedly attacking. And you should have at least 3 stars. |
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Post by John Marston on Aug 13, 2021 2:53:28 GMT
All right. For all those who say Guderian is hype, I challenge them to perfect clear all the Axis levels without Guderian. *ahem* Moi. But I did have the victory Medal, as well as the secret of Ushijima. In fact, it was without Guderian, Leeb, Yamashita, Rokossovsky, Slim, or Patton. Having Victory medal really gives us the ability to try out different general paths. I think it's the best buy instead of an IAP if you ask me. |
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Post by NotRandom on Aug 13, 2021 3:05:36 GMT
 RommelType of General : Tank
The Desert fox aka Rommel is the best Heavy Tanker in the game. However, though he and Guderian are almost same in quality, Rommel is more suited for Heavy Tanks and has less survivability in Medium tanks as compared to Guderian. I'd say that getting him in late game, after you get your basic needs. He's an absolute beast on Heavy Tanks and the best on it, perhaps even better than Manstein. Tide of Iron and more importantly Panzer Leader makes him a beast on Heavy Tanks.
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I actually disagrees with this one. Getting Rommel late game is a wasted potential imo. If you're a free to play and you don't want to grind, by the time you can afford Guderian you're already on the Eastern Front campaign. In most Axis Eastern Front missions there's a heavy tank which is more suited for Rommel. If you put Guderian on medium instead of heavy that's a sin, but Rommel's better on heavy. In most pacific missions the difference is a land general or a navy general. From my experience, Guderian won't be needed until Western 44, when there's usually two heavy tanks available and he's the second best heavy tank general for axis (excluding Manstein). |
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I was a bit flared up at that time.
And that was long ago, even before ranks' upgrades and SF boost.
