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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Sept 16, 2021 23:36:30 GMT
Like GCR Drusus, He has nothing but that, but people still adore him.
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Sept 16, 2021 23:37:10 GMT
My top 5 is:
Rundy
Rommel
Guderian
Monty
Vatutin
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Post by Manfred von Richthofen on Sept 16, 2021 23:44:41 GMT
I haven't got Rommel yet, but i vote Guderian.
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Sept 17, 2021 0:18:59 GMT
I haven't got Rommel yet, but i vote Guderian. Rommel is such an upgrade. |
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Post by Manfred von Richthofen on Sept 17, 2021 0:37:57 GMT
They nerfed Rokossovsky too hard  They even nerfed List, Brauchitsch, Messe, Bock etc. EVEN LECLERC! At least Cunningham still okay. |
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Post by Boss Tweed on Sept 17, 2021 2:34:00 GMT
They nerfed Rokossovsky too hard They even nerfed List, Brauchitsch, Messe, Bock etc. EVEN LECLERC! At least Cunningham still okay. Compared to what cause I think Bock is a decent tank general (not the best obviously). |
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Post by stevke on Sept 17, 2021 11:58:15 GMT
Where is Rundstedt?? Not gonna lie, Rundstedt is actually who I would say is number one, cannot die at all, and has +10 damage. Like a better Bock. But can he stand up to Rommel's damage and speed? I would say yes. 50 gold is a lot for a stack, and although they can attack from a distance, making Blitz (and Fire Suppression*) useless, they still get attacked by enemies, so a health regen is amazing. I think it is worth the lost damage, because hey, on a Maus with promoted attack, he can still one-shot a stack of infantry. *Why do I think Rundstedt is good if all he has is Plunder? And FS is bad? Well, FS has the unique capability in order to block significant damage if he wants to kill an Artillery stack, thus allowing him to gain HP. It is still no good in direct combat, but it allows easier health regain. Well I did consuder him as an infantry general to be honest. Seems like he is a great hybrid |
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Post by stevke on Sept 17, 2021 12:01:34 GMT
Well, there is a split between HT and MT generals, but I think that Guderian beats Rommel, Rommel just dies too early and for me, Guderian on a MT can outclass Rommel on an HT. Then it's between Vatutin and Roko, but I say Roko, he's just so good, and PL really helps. Well honestly, as a user of both, they are pretty equal to me. Rommel seems bit more versatile because of his artillery and movement stars. Guderian is fast, good defensively and tank killer, while Rommel is killer of everything on a HT, but also more expensive (in battle) |
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Post by stevke on Sept 17, 2021 12:06:33 GMT
why would you put him on a heavy tank if hes the best axis infantry general Because he's also the best axis Heavy Tank General. Plunder is so OP, it's crazy. Plunder for HT sounds great! But Rommel does so much more damage, so I think It's not close IMO. |
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Post by 6Johnny23 on Sept 17, 2021 12:37:53 GMT
Well, there is a split between HT and MT generals, but I think that Guderian beats Rommel, Rommel just dies too early and for me, Guderian on a MT can outclass Rommel on an HT. Then it's between Vatutin and Roko, but I say Roko, he's just so good, and PL really helps. I dare say that Hoth on an HT can outclass Guderian on an MT. There's just so much of a discrepancy between the two units. Rommel doesn't die quickly if you play slow and steady. He dies easily, yes, but so does Guderian with his useless Blitzkrieg and an Anti-Armor (which, I suppose, is fine on an HT, not in a med, though.) If Rommel on an HT cannot beat Guderian on an MT, of course Hoth cannot beat Guderian. "Useless" Blitzkrieg? It's one of the best skills in the entire game. Guderian also dishes out a lot of damage, so A-A is effective on tanks, and mobility can also help Guderian a lot. On an HT, it would most likely be a different story, as Guderian is pretty out of his game. But just the fact that on the worse unit he beats Rommel should be a signal that Hoth cannot beat him. Is "slow and steady" the right call? Rommel can live long, sure. Whether he lives longer than Guderian, that is which he fails at. Panzers are a spearhead, the spearhead won't be very effective when at the speed of a snail. Sure, it can kill stuff, but not fast enough. |
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Post by 6Johnny23 on Sept 17, 2021 12:43:23 GMT
Well, there is a split between HT and MT generals, but I think that Guderian beats Rommel, Rommel just dies too early and for me, Guderian on a MT can outclass Rommel on an HT. Then it's between Vatutin and Roko, but I say Roko, he's just so good, and PL really helps. Well honestly, as a user of both, they are pretty equal to me. Rommel seems bit more versatile because of his artillery and movement stars. Guderian is fast, good defensively and tank killer, while Rommel is killer of everything on a HT, but also more expensive (in battle) Arty stars? Unless in the desert, all of his skills are useless for arty. You shouldn't use a general just for stars (de Gaulle). |
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Post by John Marston on Sept 17, 2021 13:25:34 GMT
Well, there is a split between HT and MT generals, but I think that Guderian beats Rommel, Rommel just dies too early and for me, Guderian on a MT can outclass Rommel on an HT. Then it's between Vatutin and Roko, but I say Roko, he's just so good, and PL really helps. I dare say that Hoth on an HT can outclass Guderian on an MT. There's just so much of a discrepancy between the two units. Rommel doesn't die quickly if you play slow and steady. He dies easily, yes, but so does Guderian with his useless Blitzkrieg and an Anti-Armor (which, I suppose, is fine on an HT, not in a med, though.) 1. Hoth dies quickly (Same for Rommel) 2. Guderian has Blitzkrieg, which means he takes 50% less damage. 3. Why isn't Anti-Armor not good on an MT? Armored units have the most health and it's probably the most useful offensive skill because any bonus against armored units is great. 4. Rommel needs to be replenished from time to time in order to survive, at least more than Guderian. _________________________________________________________________________________________ For me, the best is Guderian, then Rommel, Rokossovsky and Vatutin and Montgomery. Patton does not deserve to be on this list. |
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Post by idunnowhattocallthis on Sept 17, 2021 13:31:47 GMT
why would you put him on a heavy tank if hes the best axis infantry general Because he's also the best axis Heavy Tank General. Plunder is so OP, it's crazy. BEST axis HT general? I think you may be exaggerating a bit. Rommel and even guderian far outclass him in damage. |
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Post by 曹操 on Sept 17, 2021 13:37:33 GMT
Because he's also the best axis Heavy Tank General. Plunder is so OP, it's crazy. BEST axis HT general? I think you may be exaggerating a bit. Rommel and even guderian far outclass him in damage. One thing he is great Is survivability not damage. Rommel and Guderian on Htank is easier to be killed than Rundstedt on Htank |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Sept 17, 2021 14:24:38 GMT
I dare say that Hoth on an HT can outclass Guderian on an MT. There's just so much of a discrepancy between the two units. Rommel doesn't die quickly if you play slow and steady. He dies easily, yes, but so does Guderian with his useless Blitzkrieg and an Anti-Armor (which, I suppose, is fine on an HT, not in a med, though.) If Rommel on an HT cannot beat Guderian on an MT, of course Hoth cannot beat Guderian. "Useless" Blitzkrieg? It's one of the best skills in the entire game. Guderian also dishes out a lot of damage, so A-A is effective on tanks, and mobility can also help Guderian a lot. On an HT, it would most likely be a different story, as Guderian is pretty out of his game. But just the fact that on the worse unit he beats Rommel should be a signal that Hoth cannot beat him. Is "slow and steady" the right call? Rommel can live long, sure. Whether he lives longer than Guderian, that is which he fails at. Panzers are a spearhead, the spearhead won't be very effective when at the speed of a snail. Sure, it can kill stuff, but not fast enough. Rommel HT smashes Guderian like a bug, so I am saying that even Hoth could do it. It is terrible on HT, given that you can work at 2 range, and anything that can hit him at that range (only light artillery) can better be taken care of by Artillery and Infantry. He would dish out much more on HT, where AA is much better. MT can only do fog of war suicide scout, bad survivability, one range, high cost, lower damage than much cheaper range two Artillery, bad SF, I don't see what the have going for them over anything else. Yes he is fast, but if you go faster than your other troops, you are doomed to die. If you want to attack tanks with MT, that is sure to kill you. If Guderian tries to Attack Rommel, Rommel will have about as much HP, slightly less damage against armor, 100% chance to avoid return fire, and PL, against Guderian's 50% chance to avoid return Fire in a 1 v 1 battle, but in campaigns, HT last much longer, do more damage than MT. Yes a slow approach is better, because it leads to not overextending yourself. Anything can be a spearhead, except for H Arty, I personally use Armored cars, then med tanks, then Infantry, then Light Artillery, then HT, then Heavy Artillery. Slow and steady does not mean go slow, it means don't play hyperaggressively. |
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