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Post by mayankshadow on Nov 29, 2021 2:50:39 GMT
 Suri has bravery my friend, so counterattacks are not a problem. I forgot to mention how good inspiration is. It increases attack and defense based on a percentage and not flat(correct me if i'm wrong)so Suri would benefit alot more from additional attack compared to those without. For medal costs, it's not relevant to include medal costs of generals used to get her, because the medal cost cannot be accurately be pinpointed, and we can change our opponents and abuse load and save to avoid bad outcomes, and we can always restart in case we get unlucky. Her total medal costs for all her skills is around 1.700 medals. Attila's commander skill alone costs a staggering 2.600+ medals. Cost wise,it's no contest. Rightly said. And she has better attack then blucher cause its her with comm not bluch if u add a comm buff to bluch add two to suri. That said it triggers her plunder more. And bluchers active equalizes her braveness and how more often her plunder is triggered more so still they are equal. Just do maths. Blucher gets two hits of 30% dmg and she gets one hit of 100%dmg and in terms of heal she easily heals up that 40percent extra dmg. Okey she might not be exactly equal but as an importance in cav comm she equals attila and bluch. as a normal run too no one easily like bluch if its not cav comm or heal run. Same with attila, attila is avoided for less hlth and suri wins there too. She dont have as much dmg though she suffices. And as for u said that arena thing. Okey dont do arena. We all do arena cause we want suri and stop after that. Et added arena for suri and so we use medals. Cant u see clearly that her awakening is passive and that is why we recommend her. Attila and bluch are more costly and require more attention she doesnt. One change. Sorry. Although it is in favor of suri. Bluch gets 50%shield so he gets 50%dmg twice. So suri wins cause she takes less dmg and heals more. |
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Post by 6Johnny23 on Nov 29, 2021 3:12:36 GMT
Rightly said. And she has better attack then blucher cause its her with comm not bluch if u add a comm buff to bluch add two to suri. That said it triggers her plunder more. And bluchers active equalizes her braveness and how more often her plunder is triggered more so still they are equal. Just do maths. Blucher gets two hits of 30% dmg and she gets one hit of 100%dmg and in terms of heal she easily heals up that 40percent extra dmg. Okey she might not be exactly equal but as an importance in cav comm she equals attila and bluch. as a normal run too no one easily like bluch if its not cav comm or heal run. Same with attila, attila is avoided for less hlth and suri wins there too. She dont have as much dmg though she suffices. And as for u said that arena thing. Okey dont do arena. We all do arena cause we want suri and stop after that. Et added arena for suri and so we use medals. Cant u see clearly that her awakening is passive and that is why we recommend her. Attila and bluch are more costly and require more attention she doesnt. One change. Sorry. Although it is in favor of suri. Bluch gets 50%shield so he gets 50%dmg twice. So suri wins cause she takes less dmg and heals more. Really where does Blucher get shield, and if so, it makes him even more tanky as he takes 25% damage. I think you may have gotten Suleiman and Blucher mixed up. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2021 3:46:50 GMT
One change. Sorry. Although it is in favor of suri. Bluch gets 50%shield so he gets 50%dmg twice. So suri wins cause she takes less dmg and heals more. Really where does Blucher get shield, and if so, it makes him even more tanky as he takes 25% damage. I think you may have gotten Suleiman and Blucher mixed up. What he means is armor master at max, which is 50% damage reduction. If what Erich von Manstein said is true, then blucher's vaue is overstated. We also have Aegis, which gives 70% damage reduction and doesn't cost any medal, and the only artifact we need to max out asap is gungir for the damage(and botte of life for the heals). Ignoring Aegis, overwhelming damage using comms and going with the "killing the enemy before they kill you" school of thought as Erich von Manstein suggestion based on his friend's opinion, might be the way to clear hard missions. So Suri's comm aura is much more valuable than Blucher's. Blucher's aura is still useful of course, and mitigating a lot of damage means that we can play more aggressively,but one problem that usually does us in isn't lack of tankiness, but lack of damage. That's with a bottle of life of course, so this thought might not be practical for f2p players. I'd still suggest getting Blucher, but i will still suggest to get him later for harder missions, as he isn't necessary to complete the main campaigns. |
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Post by mayankshadow on Nov 29, 2021 4:26:33 GMT
One change. Sorry. Although it is in favor of suri. Bluch gets 50%shield so he gets 50%dmg twice. So suri wins cause she takes less dmg and heals more. Really where does Blucher get shield, and if so, it makes him even more tanky as he takes 25% damage. I think you may have gotten Suleiman and Blucher mixed up. His active. Previously i said that blucher takes 30% dmg twice cause i thought it shields him 70%. But now i saw it shields 50% dmg. So it ties with suris braveness at lone star. And it makes up for her comm at team part. Dont worry. I dont mix things i just tend to have errors in my photographic memory. |
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Post by mayankshadow on Nov 29, 2021 4:28:20 GMT
Really where does Blucher get shield, and if so, it makes him even more tanky as he takes 25% damage. I think you may have gotten Suleiman and Blucher mixed up. What he means is armor master at max, which is 50% damage reduction. If what Erich von Manstein said is true, then blucher's vaue is overstated. We also have Aegis, which gives 70% damage reduction and doesn't cost any medal, and the only artifact we need to max out asap is gungir for the damage(and botte of life for the heals). Ignoring Aegis, overwhelming damage using comms and going with the "killing the enemy before they kill you" school of thought as Erich von Manstein suggestion based on his friend's opinion, might be the way to clear hard missions. So Suri's comm aura is much more valuable than Blucher's. Blucher's aura is still useful of course, and mitigating a lot of damage means that we can play more aggressively,but one problem that usually does us in isn't lack of tankiness, but lack of damage. That's with a bottle of life of course, so this thought might not be practical for f2p players. I'd still suggest getting Blucher, but i will still suggest to get him later for harder missions, as he isn't necessary to complete the main campaigns. Yups same suggestion. And my next gen will be him after pach ofcourse. |
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Post by stoic on Nov 29, 2021 12:33:43 GMT
Really where does Blucher get shield, and if so, it makes him even more tanky as he takes 25% damage. I think you may have gotten Suleiman and Blucher mixed up. What he means is armor master at max, which is 50% damage reduction. If what Erich von Manstein said is true, then blucher's vaue is overstated. We also have Aegis, which gives 70% damage reduction and doesn't cost any medal, and the only artifact we need to max out asap is gungir for the damage(and botte of life for the heals). Ignoring Aegis, overwhelming damage using comms and going with the "killing the enemy before they kill you" school of thought as Erich von Manstein suggestion based on his friend's opinion, might be the way to clear hard missions. So Suri's comm aura is much more valuable than Blucher's. Blucher's aura is still useful of course, and mitigating a lot of damage means that we can play more aggressively,but one problem that usually does us in isn't lack of tankiness, but lack of damage. That's with a bottle of life of course, so this thought might not be practical for f2p players. I'd still suggest getting Blucher, but i will still suggest to get him later for harder missions, as he isn't necessary to complete the main campaigns. I use Aegis with Blucher and in right hands  he's able to activate both his aura for the whole team, and then an active ability of Aegis for himself. It is not easy, but it is possible.  |
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Post by mayankshadow on Nov 29, 2021 12:44:38 GMT
Making the strong stronger is a good choice. Although it should depend on need of the hour. Anyways did u try the last industrial strong hold?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2021 14:06:22 GMT
What he means is armor master at max, which is 50% damage reduction. If what Erich von Manstein said is true, then blucher's vaue is overstated. We also have Aegis, which gives 70% damage reduction and doesn't cost any medal, and the only artifact we need to max out asap is gungir for the damage(and botte of life for the heals). Ignoring Aegis, overwhelming damage using comms and going with the "killing the enemy before they kill you" school of thought as Erich von Manstein suggestion based on his friend's opinion, might be the way to clear hard missions. So Suri's comm aura is much more valuable than Blucher's. Blucher's aura is still useful of course, and mitigating a lot of damage means that we can play more aggressively,but one problem that usually does us in isn't lack of tankiness, but lack of damage. That's with a bottle of life of course, so this thought might not be practical for f2p players. I'd still suggest getting Blucher, but i will still suggest to get him later for harder missions, as he isn't necessary to complete the main campaigns. I use Aegis with Blucher and in right hands he's able to activate both his aura for the whole team, and then an active ability of Aegis for himself. It is not easy, but it is possible. Must be manual. Also that Li shimin must've hurt your soul while upgrading his skills. |
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Post by stoic on Nov 29, 2021 14:31:38 GMT
I use Aegis with Blucher and in right hands he's able to activate both his aura for the whole team, and then an active ability of Aegis for himself. It is not easy, but it is possible. Must be manual. Also that Li shimin must've hurt your soul while upgrading his skills. Well, I am planning to upgrade only one of them, so, it is not as bad as it may sound   |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2021 14:43:38 GMT
Well, I am planning to upgrade only one of them, so, it is not as bad as it may sound Ah, the Gungir Li Shimin. I heard that the damage it can do to buildings is quite spectacular. Blucher, Attila, Li Shimin, Nelson. Thinking about the rank upgrade cost and it's already giving me a headache. At least Suri is there, she never disappoints. Along with Mulan. |
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Post by stoic on Nov 29, 2021 14:52:03 GMT
Well, I am planning to upgrade only one of them, so, it is not as bad as it may sound Ah, the Gungir Li Shimin. I heard that the damage it can do to buildings is quite spectacular. Blucher, Attila, Li Shimin, Nelson. Thinking about the rank upgrade cost and it's already giving me a headache. At least Suri is there, she never disappoints. Along with Mulan. Probably Blucher is the most expensive one. His Armour master is far more expensive than Attila's Commander skill. But, on the other hand, I have plenty of cheap generals, so that I can compensate my expenditures to a certain extent. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2021 15:08:20 GMT
Ah, the Gungir Li Shimin. I heard that the damage it can do to buildings is quite spectacular. Blucher, Attila, Li Shimin, Nelson. Thinking about the rank upgrade cost and it's already giving me a headache. At least Suri is there, she never disappoints. Along with Mulan. Probably Blucher is the most expensive one. His Armour master is far more expensive than Attila's Commander skill. But, on the other hand, I have plenty of cheap generals, so that I can compensate my expenditures to a certain extent. Blucher, Suri and Attila really make a good tag team. Blucher and Suri both have Plunder so surviving isn't an issue, 2 Cav comms is enough damage to just demolish things. Expensive team, but it will definitely accelerate your progress in the harder challenges. |
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he's able to activate both his aura for the whole team, and then an active ability of Aegis for himself. It is not easy, but it is possible.
