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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Dec 7, 2021 15:35:40 GMT
I see room for dabating. One question also, why it was possible for nazis getting power politically and over the military while we know Germans being rather well educated How do you see room for debating? How could have Hitler possible been "good"!? By overthrowing the previous status quo and treaties, by restoring military glory, by putting in place an economic system that countries still emulate, by killing a bunch of people, by uniting his enemies in conquest but breaking them apart in the postwar world. Essentially a Napoleon 2.0. Again, I mean great, not good, and like Nappy, he eventually was IMO worse for his country than it it was before. |
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Dec 7, 2021 17:01:03 GMT
why dont you see sense in this thread while viewing hitler as he was? if you would not try to close down this thread, its a talk about was hitler a man with some good qualities or just evil. sure its to divide a person in the end and, if you dont like the topic just dont talk. my advice , I agree with you, but I think the original question was based on "good and evil", as you can see from this post, where I don't see room for debate. |
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Dec 7, 2021 17:58:05 GMT
shall we characterise special forum members? to see who has sympathy or antipathy to somebody? lol i find it interesting,,, or maybe not Definitely not, this is not a totalitarian social hierarchy. This is a forum to talk about ET games. |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Dec 7, 2021 19:55:45 GMT
I think anything "good" that Hitler could have done was really just to benefit himself or his own caste of supporters:
- Possibly ending the Great Depression? That was cause he was making weapons
- Uniting his people? Pointless when you kill off 15% of your own population
- Training Chinese Nationalists to fight against the communists? The ROC was pretty much fascist at the time, in fact they were so bad that the PRC was actually pretty popular until about 10 years after they won the Second Chinese Civil War (the CCP after that is another story for another time)
- Gaining popular support as showcased in the German popular vote? Well why did Hitler get rid of democratic elections after that then? Cause he knew that the people wouldn't like what he would do
I guess you COULD argue that he wasn't as bad as Stalin, but that's just bad vs really bad, and the only reason why the Balkans "willingly" joined Nazi Germany was because they were winning at the time, once the USSR came back in 1944 they all left the Axis.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2021 3:08:15 GMT
Of course Adolf Hitler was great. What kind of question is this. He was the guy who killed Adolf Hitler.
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Post by Shrimant Peshwa Madhavrao Bhat on Dec 8, 2021 6:07:29 GMT
Hitler was a jew, claims new study. |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Dec 8, 2021 11:43:39 GMT
Hitler was a jew, claims new study. We have known this for years. |
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Post by imkhoa3 on Dec 8, 2021 15:37:35 GMT
When people think of Hitler as great, it is usually because they think that he helped the German people. That is, while he may not be good, he is great. But that is false. He lost tons of their manpower in useless wars, he censored everything, he made life "difficult" for the undesirables, to say the least. Some other reforms may have been good, like ending Versailles, or setting up an economic structure under Hermann Goering, the single best economist of the day, but all in all, he hurted Germany more than he helped it. Again, I am not debating whether he was good, but great. 1.hermann goering is trash at economic like hitler but he somehow replace shacts 2.ye , nazi german have absolute no law , hitler say = Law and you can easily bypass the law if you give goering some money |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Dec 8, 2021 17:19:51 GMT
When people think of Hitler as great, it is usually because they think that he helped the German people. That is, while he may not be good, he is great. But that is false. He lost tons of their manpower in useless wars, he censored everything, he made life "difficult" for the undesirables, to say the least. Some other reforms may have been good, like ending Versailles, or setting up an economic structure under Hermann Goering, the single best economist of the day, but all in all, he hurted Germany more than he helped it. Again, I am not debating whether he was good, but great. 1.hermann goering is trash at economic like hitler but he somehow replace shacts 2.ye , nazi german have absolute no law , hitler say = Law and you can easily bypass the law if you give goering some money 1. Goering's plans were absolutely brilliant, if carried out poorly. I honestly don't think that Hjalmar Schacht was that great an economist. 2. Agreed |
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Post by zink on Dec 8, 2021 19:00:32 GMT
1.hermann goering is trash at economic like hitler but he somehow replace shacts 2.ye , nazi german have absolute no law , hitler say = Law and you can easily bypass the law if you give goering some money 1. Goering's plans were absolutely brilliant, if carried out poorly. I honestly don't think that Hjalmar Schacht was that great an economist. 2. Agreed Had a terrible health plan tho |
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Post by Gerd von Rundstedt on Dec 8, 2021 19:07:16 GMT
1. Goering's plans were absolutely brilliant, if carried out poorly. I honestly don't think that Hjalmar Schacht was that great an economist. 2. Agreed Had a terrible health plan tho Fair enough. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2021 20:04:19 GMT
hitler would have made a mad world we would live in now. but usa won. and usa is still ok. ofc there is still improvement necesary
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Post by Manfred von Richthofen on Dec 8, 2021 23:59:25 GMT
(i don't wanna say his name so i call him moustache man).
I don't really like him tho, since he killed 6 million people. And started a WW2 which people would never forget.
Basically, he was a tyrant. But he had some great skills in leadership tho.
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Post by Thortilla on Dec 9, 2021 2:47:37 GMT
(i don't wanna say his name so i call him moustache man). I don't really like him tho, since he killed 6 million people. And started a WW2 which people would never forget. Basically, he was a tyrant. But he had some great skills in leadership tho. He was a good leader. Loved by his people. An example of this is that they tried to assassinate him 42 times. |
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Post by Manfred von Richthofen on Dec 9, 2021 2:49:18 GMT
(i don't wanna say his name so i call him moustache man). I don't really like him tho, since he killed 6 million people. And started a WW2 which people would never forget. Basically, he was a tyrant. But he had some great skills in leadership tho. He was a good leader. Loved by his people. An example of this is that they tried to assassinate him 42 times. Bruh |
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