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Mar 4, 2022 9:27:12 GMT
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Post by gambino on Mar 4, 2022 9:27:12 GMT
Is it worth spending resources trying to complete bonds? I’m thinking about purchasing either Narses or halfdan to complete either of those bonds but both of the generals are meh in my opinion. Especially in the case of halfdan I’m not sure how useful naval capabilities will prove to be yet, although he is less expensive he’s not narsesarily cheap.
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Post by stoic on Mar 4, 2022 9:55:43 GMT
At first I thought that bonds between Belisarius and Narses are not good enough to invest in it. But after I did some experiments with a legion: Counter infantry/charge cavalry/archers I think Narses could be very good at commanding it too. This legion is good at defence as well as offense, so, it is worth trying it, at least. So, now I wouldn't condemn Narses right away.  And in comparison to Belisarius the speed of such legion of Narses will be 10 instead of 8! |
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Mar 4, 2022 10:37:29 GMT
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Post by kingbutawl on Mar 4, 2022 10:37:29 GMT
At first I thought that bonds between Belisarius and Narses are not good enough to invest in it. But after I did some experiments with a legion: Counter infantry/charge cavalry/archers I think Narses could be very good at commanding it too. This legion is good at defence as well as offense, so, it is worth trying it, at least. So, now I wouldn't condemn Narses right away. And in comparison to Belisarius the speed of such legion of Narses will be 10 instead of 8! Narses can be good even in Cavalry with that Byzantine book that boosts attack in percentage. |
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Mar 4, 2022 11:22:36 GMT
Post by andrei on Mar 4, 2022 11:22:36 GMT
Is it worth spending resources trying to complete bonds? I’m thinking about purchasing either Narses or halfdan to complete either of those bonds but both of the generals are meh in my opinion. Especially in the case of halfdan I’m not sure how useful naval capabilities will prove to be yet, although he is less expensive he’s not narsesarily cheap. And what about Halfdan's active skill? Its description is vague. +%DMG and +%DMG received. Received? Maybe the meaning is "inflicted"? |
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Mar 4, 2022 11:36:45 GMT
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Post by stoic on Mar 4, 2022 11:36:45 GMT
Is it worth spending resources trying to complete bonds? I’m thinking about purchasing either Narses or halfdan to complete either of those bonds but both of the generals are meh in my opinion. Especially in the case of halfdan I’m not sure how useful naval capabilities will prove to be yet, although he is less expensive he’s not narsesarily cheap. And what about Halfdan's active skill? Its description is vague. +%DMG and +%DMG received. Received? Maybe the meaning is "inflicted"? As I understand it - we receive less damage but our own damage is also reduced. If so, it is a very strange skill. |
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Mar 4, 2022 11:44:17 GMT
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Post by blueberry on Mar 4, 2022 11:44:17 GMT
And what about Halfdan's active skill? Its description is vague. +%DMG and +%DMG received. Received? Maybe the meaning is "inflicted"? As I understand it - we receive less damage but our own damage is also reduced. If so, it is a very strange skill. That's concentrated defence: both your attack and the enemy's attack decrease. This is good for when it's the AI's turn. Likewise for rage: both your attack and the enemy's attack increase. This could be a problem when you end turn and the enemy attacks you. |
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Mar 4, 2022 14:48:43 GMT
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Post by kingbutawl on Mar 4, 2022 14:48:43 GMT
Is it worth spending resources trying to complete bonds? I’m thinking about purchasing either Narses or halfdan to complete either of those bonds but both of the generals are meh in my opinion. Especially in the case of halfdan I’m not sure how useful naval capabilities will prove to be yet, although he is less expensive he’s not narsesarily cheap. And what about Halfdan's active skill? Its description is vague. +%DMG and +%DMG received. Received? Maybe the meaning is "inflicted"? I’ve completed the Vikings’ bond and it’s pretty useful in naval battle. Halfdan can deal pretty much damage and he’s surely better than Aetius (sometimes even better than Belisarius on infantry). He and the other sad, blonde long hair Viking (yes, I don’t remember his name and I’m a bit rude) can immediately deal 20 or so % of damage receiving as much offence in percentage. In description is not displayed, but 9/10 you will also do critical damage. |
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Mar 4, 2022 14:52:08 GMT
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Post by kingbutawl on Mar 4, 2022 14:52:08 GMT
As I understand it - we receive less damage but our own damage is also reduced. If so, it is a very strange skill. That's concentrated defence: both your attack and the enemy's attack decrease. This is good for when it's the AI's turn. Likewise for rage: both your attack and the enemy's attack increase. This could be a problem when you end turn and the enemy attacks you. Rage applies only in current round (this means you will only receive a boosted counter attack). |
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Mar 4, 2022 15:10:17 GMT
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Post by blueberry on Mar 4, 2022 15:10:17 GMT
That's concentrated defence: both your attack and the enemy's attack decrease. This is good for when it's the AI's turn. Likewise for rage: both your attack and the enemy's attack increase. This could be a problem when you end turn and the enemy attacks you. Rage applies only in current round (this means you will only receive a boosted counter attack). From what I've seen, it applies also during the AI's turn. The skill icon is visible on the unit during AI's turn |
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Mar 4, 2022 15:28:10 GMT
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Post by kingbutawl on Mar 4, 2022 15:28:10 GMT
Rage applies only in current round (this means you will only receive a boosted counter attack). From what I've seen, it applies also during the AI's turn. The skill icon is visible on the unit during AI's turn the current round is also the AI’s one, and I replied not paying enough attention to what you wrote. However I’ve just saw something interesting: in the first Attila hero mission, apparently, during the AI’s turn (which should also fall under the “current round”) the enemy attack is not increased. I saw only more counter attack during my turn. Tell me if you’ve noticed the same thing. I did 20 times the same attack on the same unit with and without “rage”. |
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Post by blueberry on Mar 4, 2022 16:29:20 GMT
blueberry the current round is also the AI’s one, and I replied not paying enough attention to what you wrote. Yes, that's what I meant. One turn is made by your moves plus the AI's moves. However I’ve just saw something interesting: in the first Attila hero mission, apparently, during the AI’s turn (which should also fall under the “current round”) the enemy attack is not increased. I saw only more counter attack during my turn. Tell me if you’ve noticed the same thing. I did 20 times the same attack on the same unit with and without “rage”. No, I tried about 10 times both with Ivar and Lupicinus in the first Attila hero legend mission, and the damage taken/dealt is always more or less consistent with the skill's description (lvl 1 for Lupicinus, lvl 3 for Ivar). But I still haven't updated the game to the latest version, that might have caused some bugs, who knows. Or maybe it's a matter of the units you used. I used Ivar on double viking raiders and Lupicinus on single garrison spearmen (in this case I didn't take into account the times when the "counter" ability triggered). |
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Mar 4, 2022 16:45:16 GMT
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Post by kingbutawl on Mar 4, 2022 16:45:16 GMT
blueberry the current round is also the AI’s one, and I replied not paying enough attention to what you wrote. Yes, that's what I meant. One turn is made by your moves plus the AI's moves. However I’ve just saw something interesting: in the first Attila hero mission, apparently, during the AI’s turn (which should also fall under the “current round”) the enemy attack is not increased. I saw only more counter attack during my turn. Tell me if you’ve noticed the same thing. I did 20 times the same attack on the same unit with and without “rage”. No, I tried about 10 times both with Ivar and Lupicinus in the first Attila hero legend mission, and the damage taken/dealt is always more or less consistent with the skill's description (lvl 1 for Lupicinus, lvl 3 for Ivar). But I still haven't updated the game to the latest version, that might have caused some bugs, who knows. Or maybe it's a matter of the units you used. I used Ivar on double viking raiders and Lupicinus on single garrison spearmen (in this case I didn't take into account the times when the "counter" ability triggered). I used triple Viking raiders. Maybe it’s the update, I don’t know. |
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Mar 4, 2022 16:54:08 GMT
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Post by blueberry on Mar 4, 2022 16:54:08 GMT
I used triple Viking raiders. Maybe it’s the update, I don’t know. Did you take into account the "counter" ability? Viking raiders have it, too (with a low chance). If it activates, they deal more damage because they also hit the rear stacks. |
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Mar 4, 2022 18:17:04 GMT
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Post by kingbutawl on Mar 4, 2022 18:17:04 GMT
I used triple Viking raiders. Maybe it’s the update, I don’t know. Did you take into account the "counter" ability? Viking raiders have it, too (with a low chance). If it activates, they deal more damage because they also hit the rear stacks. I can do more tests, you have right. However I don’t think this ability triggers for 20 times in a row. |
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Mar 4, 2022 19:05:50 GMT
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Post by kingbutawl on Mar 4, 2022 19:05:50 GMT
I used triple Viking raiders. Maybe it’s the update, I don’t know. Did you take into account the "counter" ability? Viking raiders have it, too (with a low chance). If it activates, they deal more damage because they also hit the rear stacks. Bro, you won’t believe it! I took less damage and dealt more damage using that skill on Lupicinus with 2 Ravenna archers. 47/50 damage with rage 60 whitout I think there are some bugs around  |
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