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Post by prebenh on Aug 25, 2022 9:45:24 GMT
I’m a Harald Hardrada fanboy here (best on heavy axe vikings which are a better unit than varangian, but only if you have an outburst general). I have a full Cnut and why not both, you will use them in the end to complete treasure missions hard level Is this still your opinion on Hardrada, or have you put in some Varangians? Anybody else with an opinion here? |
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Post by kingbutawl on Aug 25, 2022 12:35:36 GMT
I’m a Harald Hardrada fanboy here (best on heavy axe vikings which are a better unit than varangian, but only if you have an outburst general). I have a full Cnut and why not both, you will use them in the end to complete treasure missions hard level Is this still your opinion on Hardrada, or have you put in some Varangians? Anybody else with an opinion here? Since mercenary fragments are pretty rare you wouldn’t need to focus on more than one kind of unit of his kind. I’ve never focused on blue Viking, but I managed to slowly upgrading them to lvl 11 and they’re objectively stronger than varangians. However blue vikings charge way less and take into account that only max morale and Nevsky’s skill together could guarantee you a secure triple charge, or just an outburst general. You have Nordic helmet in Territory shop which makes Hardrada a nightmare for everybody, but only him, because your Cnut, Basil, Belysarius, etc., will benefit way less than with a triple varangians setup. Blue Vikings have also top shields which reduces direct and counter ranged damage (just like on templars) and their fragments cost 80 war souls for each one of those. If I were you I’d make a cloud safe to test both units at the same lvl, just to find out what mercenary better fits your gaming style and strategy  |
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Post by Sviatoslav I Igorevich on Aug 25, 2022 14:24:18 GMT
Is this still your opinion on Hardrada, or have you put in some Varangians? Anybody else with an opinion here? Since mercenary fragments are pretty rare you wouldn’t need to focus on more than one kind of unit of his kind. I’ve never focused on blue Viking, but I managed to slowly upgrading them to lvl 11 and they’re objectively stronger than varangians. However blue vikings charge way less and take into account that only max morale and Nevsky’s skill together could guarantee you a secure triple charge, or just an outburst general. You have Nordic helmet in Territory shop which makes Hardrada a nightmare for everybody, but only him, because your Cnut, Basil, Belysarius, etc., will benefit way less than with a triple varangians setup. Blue Vikings have also top shields which reduces direct and counter ranged damage (just like on templars) and their fragments cost 80 war souls for each one of those. If I were you I’d make a cloud safe to test both units at the same lvl, just to find out what mercenary better fits your gaming style and strategy At same lvl Teutonic axemens better, but charge only 5%, but for generals with outburst they are better, and one of the best bonus from Surprise Attack against ramparts. But both of them don't have any bonus for territory movement. PS. Without outburst, like Cnut, better use 2 Varangians + unique unit or Scottish Long Spearmen, for best movement and easy bonus from gems for them, for example. |
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Post by kingbutawl on Aug 25, 2022 18:57:09 GMT
Since mercenary fragments are pretty rare you wouldn’t need to focus on more than one kind of unit of his kind. I’ve never focused on blue Viking, but I managed to slowly upgrading them to lvl 11 and they’re objectively stronger than varangians. However blue vikings charge way less and take into account that only max morale and Nevsky’s skill together could guarantee you a secure triple charge, or just an outburst general. You have Nordic helmet in Territory shop which makes Hardrada a nightmare for everybody, but only him, because your Cnut, Basil, Belysarius, etc., will benefit way less than with a triple varangians setup. Blue Vikings have also top shields which reduces direct and counter ranged damage (just like on templars) and their fragments cost 80 war souls for each one of those. If I were you I’d make a cloud safe to test both units at the same lvl, just to find out what mercenary better fits your gaming style and strategy At same lvl Teutonic axemens better, but charge only 5%, but for generals with outburst they are better, and one of the best bonus from Surprise Attack against ramparts. But both of them don't have any bonus for territory movement. PS. Without outburst, like Cnut, better use 2 Varangians + unique unit or Scottish Long Spearmen, for best movement and easy bonus from gems for them, for example. Bro, I agree that Cnut is a tank with a pike in front , but Scottish spearmen are not the best (even if they’re good). By now the best options are Lombardy halberdiers or legion spearmen, but I’d prefer the first thanks to the halberd. A last option is modao camp on Cnut which could be devastating for knights |
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Post by Sviatoslav I Igorevich on Aug 25, 2022 21:54:31 GMT
At same lvl Teutonic axemens better, but charge only 5%, but for generals with outburst they are better, and one of the best bonus from Surprise Attack against ramparts. But both of them don't have any bonus for territory movement. PS. Without outburst, like Cnut, better use 2 Varangians + unique unit or Scottish Long Spearmen, for best movement and easy bonus from gems for them, for example. Bro, I agree that Cnut is a tank with a pike in front , but Scottish spearmen are not the best (even if they’re good). By now the best options are Lombardy halberdiers or legion spearmen, but I’d prefer the first thanks to the halberd. A last option is modao camp on Cnut which could be devastating for knights Maybe. In real life, men's with big swords and shield s or even 2 swords can't fight against men's with long spear, they can only die, and faster than charge cavalry. But it's another story. |
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Post by verily on Aug 25, 2022 22:21:22 GMT
my setup is legion brigade-vikings-varangians
while this setup is not good. its cheap in conquest.
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Post by verily on Aug 25, 2022 22:25:41 GMT
Bro, I agree that Cnut is a tank with a pike in front , but Scottish spearmen are not the best (even if they’re good). By now the best options are Lombardy halberdiers or legion spearmen, but I’d prefer the first thanks to the halberd. A last option is modao camp on Cnut which could be devastating for knights Maybe. In real life, men's with big swords and shield s or even 2 swords can't fight against men's with long spear, they can only die, and faster than charge cavalry. But it's another story. yes. the best setup is defence - melee - melee defence- for not being prey to charge cavalry melee- unique unit/skill |
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Post by Boss Tweed on Aug 26, 2022 2:58:25 GMT
Maybe. In real life, men's with big swords and shield s or even 2 swords can't fight against men's with long spear, they can only die, and faster than charge cavalry. But it's another story. yes. the best setup is defence - melee - melee defence- for not being prey to charge cavalry melee- unique unit/skill Also some ability to dent archers pretty hard. |
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Post by crimsonkhan on Feb 3, 2023 4:35:17 GMT
Personally I like the triple varangian combo because my Cnut does more damage than the Viking-double varang one I was using until now. I haven't tried it yet, but since triple varang does more damage on average, and the Viking-double varang can already one hit archer legions, I have very high hopes for this build.
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Post by Erich on Feb 4, 2023 16:55:17 GMT
The best setup for Cnut:
Modao/Halberdier+Vikings+Hengdao
Fast moving, -35% from ranged attacks. We should have Halberdiers if fighting Cavs, and Modao if fighting other Melee Inf, I prefer Modao coz the unit’s also a nightmare for Cavs, but I don’t have Modao, so… this only a dream
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Post by stif on Feb 5, 2023 0:36:59 GMT
The best setup for Cnut: Modao/Halberdier+Vikings+Hengdao Fast moving, -35% from ranged attacks. We should have Halberdiers if fighting Cavs, and Modao if fighting other Melee Inf, I prefer Modao coz the unit’s also a nightmare for Cavs, but I don’t have Modao, so… this only a dream This is how I roll. I pay 6 bucks a month and bought most of the IAP. My Modao is 19 and Hengdao 14. It wrecks. |
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Post by Erich on Feb 5, 2023 6:38:00 GMT
This is how I roll. I pay 6 bucks a month and bought most of the IAP. My Modao is 19 and Hengdao 14. It wrecks. If that’s the situation, I think he should be strong whatever you give him; any level 20 melee Inf pair with Vikings is enough. |
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Post by crimsonkhan on Feb 5, 2023 13:17:39 GMT
This is how I roll. I pay 6 bucks a month and bought most of the IAP. My Modao is 19 and Hengdao 14. It wrecks. If that’s the situation, I think he should be strong whatever you give him; any level 20 melee Inf pair with Vikings is enough. yeah, cnut will destroy no matter what you put on him. |
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Post by lafluth on Feb 6, 2023 8:10:11 GMT
The best setup for Cnut: Modao/Halberdier+Vikings+Hengdao Fast moving, -35% from ranged attacks. We should have Halberdiers if fighting Cavs, and Modao if fighting other Melee Inf, I prefer Modao coz the unit’s also a nightmare for Cavs, but I don’t have Modao, so… this only a dream Hengdao and def infy do not benefit from axe/dual wielded passive skill dmg buff. I can see the benefit for mobility, range and cav attack protection but feels it is slightly underpowered. I have cnut with royal swordsman, vikings and varangians, along with super defensive equipment and when it is full morale it is really good. When not full morale it is still ok because he is still super defensive (except to charge cav but that’s just how the game is, need to watch out for placement as usual) but yeah, as someone else noted, with cnut, in the end, just put any high level infy units on him and he just tanks through any way |
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