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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jun 12, 2022 7:07:15 GMT
$12.99 Proof of Honor: Gives you over 10k medals when complete. Also, unlocks many unique equipment for gens like Baldwin, Barberossa, Nur Din, Belisarius, and Justinian. Allowing them to reach full potential. In addition, many unique units like Dragoons, Swiss harbaldiers, etc are unlocked. Also, you get hundreds if not thousands of recruitment and war gear orders allowing you to unlock units much faster. Plus this gives you Beowulf the best infantry gen in the game in addition to Caesar, another good gen. There may be even more unique weapons or gens added to POF. Honorable Mentions If You Have Money: Matilda, Atilla, and Chralemagne Hm... While the prices of the rest of the stuff matches with mine (though I pay in euros, so overall a little more), for this one ET asks me for 15.99€. So either this is a typo, or price raises the more you progress through it (which I doubt).
I do agree on your split with one exception, Justinian. Justinian is a must general to have as Consul when doing conquests. It makes them so much easier its absurd and should be toned down. I agree its quite a setback looking at his price, but there is also an identical alternative (consul wise), Nikephoros I, who is cheaper, and unless you do buy the proof of honor (in which you get Justinian's unique weapon, and thus can raise Lobbyist to lvl 3), its a solid option to consider. You miss out on the bond with Theodora, which besides the last bonus (technology bonus) and that having both gens on the field is awful on campaign, but due to the no-gen limit on conquest (or you can field many), its also solid there.
There's no point of getting Nikephoros, I can't even see how he's better than Eleanor of Aquitaine. |
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Post by Ralyks on Jun 12, 2022 12:55:04 GMT
There's no point of getting Nikephoros, I can't even see how he's better than Eleanor of Aquitaine. I see him as a . Same consul skills, which are the main reason you get Justinian over other generals. But cheaper. The key to why they're both best is simply because they have Lobbyist. Then they both have a second consul skill, which if I understood Nikephoros' skill correctly, depending on situation, one can shine better than the other. Combat wise its clear Nikephoros is weaker than Justinian, but neither shine at it, but I was speaking consul wise, they're both the best. I disagree on the Theodora part,she and with Justinian is almost mandatory in my campaign,yes Theodora is not offensive general but she can at least defend with my lv9 swordmans till further reinforcement come and when she is too damaged Then your other gens are weaklings if you have to use her instead of some other gen. I currently don't use neither Justinian nor his weaker bond, Theodora, and have them both. They're only for Conquest. Early game when your other options are Hermeric, Aiham or nothing, she can stand out. But mid to late game, Theodora should be benched first, followed by Justinian. Both of them having 2 consul skills makes them bad combat wise compared to other existing alternatives. And combat is what wins campaigns and challenges.
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Post by awsome4444 on Jun 12, 2022 14:15:40 GMT
When buying PoH, you should understand that the last part of the rewards will be difficult to achieve or not available at all. HoC: This is the best part, all rewards are available through hegemony farming. HoQ: Requires completing all Hero Legends (or most Legends with the introduction of new content) with the purchase and improvement of the legendary generals (even if they are not needed). HoS: this sucks. You need the maximum improvement of all units. What is more worth buying then |
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Post by nikomachos on Jun 13, 2022 12:57:35 GMT
$12.99 Proof of Honor: Gives you over 10k medals when complete. Also, unlocks many unique equipment for gens like Baldwin, Barberossa, Nur Din, Belisarius, and Justinian. Allowing them to reach full potential. In addition, many unique units like Dragoons, Swiss harbaldiers, etc are unlocked. Also, you get hundreds if not thousands of recruitment and war gear orders allowing you to unlock units much faster. Plus this gives you Beowulf the best infantry gen in the game in addition to Caesar, another good gen. There may be even more unique weapons or gens added to POF. Honorable Mentions If You Have Money: Matilda, Atilla, and Chralemagne Hm... While the prices of the rest of the stuff matches with mine (though I pay in euros, so overall a little more), for this one ET asks me for 15.99€. So either this is a typo, or price raises the more you progress through it (which I doubt).
I do agree on your split with one exception, Justinian. Justinian is a must general to have as Consul when doing conquests. It makes them so much easier its absurd and should be toned down. I agree its quite a setback looking at his price, but there is also an identical alternative (consul wise), Nikephoros I, who is cheaper, and unless you do buy the proof of honor (in which you get Justinian's unique weapon, and thus can raise Lobbyist to lvl 3), its a solid option to consider. You miss out on the bond with Theodora, which besides the last bonus (technology bonus) and that having both gens on the field is awful on campaign, but due to the no-gen limit on conquest (or you can field many), its also solid there.
yeah idk why the € prices are so much higher, richard, etc and PoH are just crazy expensive. if they were to adjust the prices to dollar vallue poh should be 12,5€ and richard 7€ or less and not 8,50€. is there some tax that makes them more expensive or are they just messing with us  |
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Post by nexttimebro on Jun 13, 2022 16:04:18 GMT
I’d put PoH to the first place. Yes, it’s more expensive, but it gives more advantages than buying few p2w generals.
With advanced rewards you may have up to 9 fully equipped (general + its unique sword) generals:
1. Caesar with his Calmness lvl 4 which is the best supportive general in the game because it may reset cooldowns of any other skill like outburst or composure every second turn.
2. Belisarius with -30% for recruitment troops, which is the best defensive general for defending cities in campaigns
3. Beowulf with the outburst every second turn (lvl 4) and maximum melee dmg in the game (124 or 126) + Master of Assault lvl 4(+15% dmg) + Infantry Tactician lvl 3 (+10% dmg)
4. Justinian I which is the best general for conquests as a council.
Plus in the middle of the game HoS will automatically unlock full features for
5. Frederic I
6. Nur Din
7. Baldwin
8. Khalid
9. Zengi
In addition to generals, there are good rewards like 10/15% dmg reduction plates and +24 weapons
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Post by irvin on Jun 13, 2022 16:37:11 GMT
The thing is when you get this advantages
And do you have enough resources to invest in all this generals
To my understanding, game is f2p. Hard, but possible. Yes, you will struggle many times, but that’s for fun
If you want to support ET and make life easier- buy Saladin and Richard. That’s more than enough for a regular player to win. Still, brut force is not a way, but it’s never been like this in ET games
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Post by nexttimebro on Jun 13, 2022 16:54:15 GMT
The thing is when you get this advantages And do you have enough resources to invest in all this generals To my understanding, game is f2p. Hard, but possible. Yes, you will struggle many times, but that’s for fun If you want to support ET and make life easier- buy Saladin and Richard. That’s more than enough for a regular player to win. Still, brut force is not a way, but it’s never been like this in ET games HoC items are achievable since the beginning of the game and quite easy for grind using First conquest and Holy Roman Empire (It takes me 7 minutes of my time and after that just ~15 min of waiting in auto mode to have it completed) HoS is more harder. in my case, I’ll open swords for Nur Din and Baldwin right after the next update (1.6) HoQ swords for Frederic and Khalid will be opened if you buy all available free generals with a hero legend using your medals. |
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Post by irvin on Jun 13, 2022 19:58:38 GMT
You need to consider that from scratch of the game you don’t have Nur- Din and other good boys
And this is guide mainly for new players
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Post by awsome4444 on Jun 13, 2022 20:27:41 GMT
You need to consider that from scratch of the game you don’t have Nur- Din and other good boys And this is guide mainly for new players Nur Din is *Auto Corrected*. Even with unit and weapon he is still *Auto Corrected*. Bought him and I have to say the greatest regret in my life. And this is a guide for mainly new players. You can't go for budget gens in EW7, or you will waste medals. Sure you can buy coin gens, but you mostly want to go for gold or legendary gens first. You have to go for those that are powerful and good that have free unique weapons, they will help you to beat hard levels much more easily and more sufficient than if you were to buy a silver gen. |
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Post by irvin on Jun 13, 2022 20:50:21 GMT
I think we turned wrong way. The question was what to buy if you want to spend some real cash. My point was that buying Richard and Saladin is enough to have quite pleasurable path along scenarios. And second point that you are not able to get too many gens before unlocking certain chapters, and this could be painful
Me personally have Nur Din. He is better than many others, but overall a crap. I took him because medals not an issue and he has Legend mode. All missions are done, and this is additional fun and resources for ranks and upgrading weapons. Gold as well. I got all gens with Legend mode that are f2p. Of course, for late game , only elite gens with unique weapons make sense. Alfred, Cnut, El Cid, Basil, Narses - this is the core for f2p. You may add some bronze gens for early missions. And I’d say that probably I could spend some cash for Saladin and Richard, if I’d have to replay from start. Now it’s not needed, but never too late.
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Post by Ralyks on Jun 13, 2022 21:15:12 GMT
I’d put PoH to the first place. Yes, it’s more expensive, but it gives more advantages than buying few p2w generals. With advanced rewards you may have up to 9 fully equipped (general + its unique sword) generals: 1. Caesar with his Calmness lvl 4 which is the best supportive general in the game because it may reset cooldowns of any other skill like outburst or composure every second turn. 2. Belisarius with -30% for recruitment troops, which is the best defensive general for defending cities in campaigns 3. Beowulf with the outburst every second turn (lvl 4) and maximum melee dmg in the game (124 or 126) + Master of Assault lvl 4(+15% dmg) + Infantry Tactician lvl 3 (+10% dmg) 4. Justinian I which is the best general for conquests as a council. Plus in the middle of the game HoS will automatically unlock full features for 5. Frederic I 6. Nur Din 7. Baldwin 8. Khalid 9. Zengi In addition to generals, there are good rewards like 10/15% dmg reduction plates and +24 weapons Remember that buying an IAP not only comes with the general, but also a recruitment of the troop (which are highest tier and very hard to get), their hero missions, and an important priviledge (Richard gets you monthly 1700 medals (30x50 + 4 double days (+200)), Saladin gets you an solid 1 extra spawn on campaigns (sucks that it doesn't work in Conquest) and 2 extra territory tickets daily), and so on.
If the weapons of Saladin or Richard were not obtainable f2p, I would drag them under PoH. But else, although value for money is great for all 3 first options, I do still think Richard + Saladin with all their contents is better and cheaper than PoH. Having the strongest cavalry and archer gens along their troop and their weapon makes everything so much easier. Richard solid best option. Saladin and PoH may share the second spot, but then again... prices
yeah idk why the € prices are so much higher, richard, etc and PoH are just crazy expensive. if they were to adjust the prices to dollar vallue poh should be 12,5€ and richard 7€ or less and not 8,50€. is there some tax that makes them more expensive or are they just messing with us  Actually, yesterday talked with an American friend and apparently store prices then get bumped at the last moment before purchase, as it depends on the state they're on. Like stores there do not show final price, but price pre-taxes.
He doesn't do mobile gaming, but I guess its the same? Its just the "freedom" way and that they're too used to this way, and having now final prices instead of pre-tax ones will make them look expensive against the competition, so its not gonna change anytime soon. awsome4444 can you tell us if the prices you wrote are final? |
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Post by awsome4444 on Jun 13, 2022 22:46:55 GMT
yeah idk why the € prices are so much higher, richard, etc and PoH are just crazy expensive. if they were to adjust the prices to dollar vallue poh should be 12,5€ and richard 7€ or less and not 8,50€. is there some tax that makes them more expensive or are they just messing with us Actually, yesterday talked with an American friend and apparently store prices then get bumped at the last moment before purchase, as it depends on the state they're on. Like stores there do not show final price, but price pre-taxes.
He doesn't do mobile gaming, but I guess its the same? Its just the "freedom" way and that they're too used to this way, and having now final prices instead of pre-tax ones will make them look expensive against the competition, so its not gonna change anytime soon. awsome4444 can you tell us if the prices you wrote are final? Idk man. I never made an IAP purchase in game. But I am assuming before tax. |
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Post by awsome4444 on Jun 14, 2022 2:42:07 GMT
I think we turned wrong way. The question was what to buy if you want to spend some real cash. My point was that buying Richard and Saladin is enough to have quite pleasurable path along scenarios. And second point that you are not able to get too many gens before unlocking certain chapters, and this could be painful Me personally have Nur Din. He is better than many others, but overall a crap. I took him because medals not an issue and he has Legend mode. All missions are done, and this is additional fun and resources for ranks and upgrading weapons. Gold as well. I got all gens with Legend mode that are f2p. Of course, for late game , only elite gens with unique weapons make sense. Alfred, Cnut, El Cid, Basil, Narses - this is the core for f2p. You may add some bronze gens for early missions. And I’d say that probably I could spend some cash for Saladin and Richard, if I’d have to replay from start. Now it’s not needed, but never too late. Never said they were needed. Only said they were suggested. |
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Post by awsome4444 on Jun 17, 2022 0:45:33 GMT
Hm... While the prices of the rest of the stuff matches with mine (though I pay in euros, so overall a little more), for this one ET asks me for 15.99€. So either this is a typo, or price raises the more you progress through it (which I doubt).
I do agree on your split with one exception, Justinian. Justinian is a must general to have as Consul when doing conquests. It makes them so much easier its absurd and should be toned down. I agree its quite a setback looking at his price, but there is also an identical alternative (consul wise), Nikephoros I, who is cheaper, and unless you do buy the proof of honor (in which you get Justinian's unique weapon, and thus can raise Lobbyist to lvl 3), its a solid option to consider. You miss out on the bond with Theodora, which besides the last bonus (technology bonus) and that having both gens on the field is awful on campaign, but due to the no-gen limit on conquest (or you can field many), its also solid there.
There's no point of getting Nikephoros, I can't even see how he's better than Eleanor of Aquitaine. Are U gonna pin the guide or no? |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jun 17, 2022 21:21:09 GMT
There's no point of getting Nikephoros, I can't even see how he's better than Eleanor of Aquitaine. Are U gonna pin the guide or no? The game hasn't released everything yet. This guide could be outdated like torvestareborn's in the future. |
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