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Post by stoic on Sept 23, 2022 11:28:40 GMT
Disappointed. One campaign. Couple of gens (meh) One conquest. Or and two more missions called epic battle. Such a long waiting for absolutely standard update. That is a strange thing... After almost half a year of playing all new generals should be better or, at least, have interesting skills and abilities to compete with existing generals. So far I can't say that John Tzimiskes is better than cavalry generals we already have. His active skill is of dubious quality and he has only 2 skills useful for a cavalry general. Besides, his unit is brand new and it will take months to upgrade it to respectable levels. William Wallace, on the other hand, will command one of the oldest units of the game. The problem is that it is one of the worst units of the game He can set traps. The problem is that we attack 90% of the time, and simply don't have time to sit and wait until someone stupid will be killed in it. I simply can't believe they haven't changed his unit to something more appropriate. They could create improved version of Pikemen or something like that. And where are Ottoman generals? We have Ottoman campaign, just for a second!
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Post by playeruser37 on Sept 23, 2022 11:37:55 GMT
I hoped there will Suleyman the magnificent , Mehmed the conqueror Yelu Dashi and Li Shimin , their weapons are already in the game ,the next conquest is fine , there seems to be 4 epic battle , of which 2 are to be unlocked in the game in 1.8. update , 1 new campaign , one new IAP general , who can send traps , but this cost 3 mobility points , one general with a skill that reduce damage for archers , 3 rounds coldown .
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Post by hrabrimalitoster on Sept 23, 2022 12:12:40 GMT
stoic, I disagree with you about William Wallace, setting traps can also be useful when attacking. For example, you destroy the enemy general and place a trap in his place, during the opponent's turn, the enemy falls into the trap because he wanted to attack from that field. You can also use a trap to protect your flanks and during the opponent's turn they attack him from one square instead of two. It will be interesting to see how that ability works in combination with Calmness.
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Post by hrabrimalitoster on Sept 23, 2022 12:18:23 GMT
Disappointed. One campaign. Couple of gens (meh) One conquest. Or and two more missions called epic battle. Such a long waiting for absolutely standard update. Didn't they say that there would also be a treasure missions. If so, it's no small thing because they bring a huge amount of resources. The map for Conquest is quite large and there are a lot of countries to play, so there will be a lot of content, not everything is so catastrophic.
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Post by ALWA~Dark Prince of Wallachia on Sept 23, 2022 13:10:44 GMT
Disappointed. One campaign. Couple of gens (meh) One conquest. Or and two more missions called epic battle. Such a long waiting for absolutely standard update. That is a strange thing... After almost half a year of playing all new generals should be better or, at least, have interesting skills and abilities to compete with existing generals. So far I can't say that John Tzimiskes is better than cavalry generals we already have. His active skill is of dubious quality and he has only 2 skills useful for a cavalry general. Besides, his unit is brand new and it will take months to upgrade it to respectable levels. William Wallace, on the other hand, will command one of the oldest units of the game. The problem is that it is one of the worst units of the game He can set traps. The problem is that we attack 90% of the time, and simply don't have time to sit and wait until someone stupid will be killed in it. I simply can't believe they haven't changed his unit to something more appropriate. They could create improved version of Pikemen or something like that. And where are Ottoman generals? We have Ottoman campaign, just for a second! Probably we won't get Ottoman generals in this update, which is very strange. They didn't show anything about them, neither about the new unit for Mehmed the Conqueror, Sudan Musketeer (which in my opinion should be named Sipahi) I hope I'm wrong though because I really wanted to play with them.
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Post by stoic on Sept 23, 2022 13:35:44 GMT
That is a strange thing... After almost half a year of playing all new generals should be better or, at least, have interesting skills and abilities to compete with existing generals. So far I can't say that John Tzimiskes is better than cavalry generals we already have. His active skill is of dubious quality and he has only 2 skills useful for a cavalry general. Besides, his unit is brand new and it will take months to upgrade it to respectable levels. William Wallace, on the other hand, will command one of the oldest units of the game. The problem is that it is one of the worst units of the game He can set traps. The problem is that we attack 90% of the time, and simply don't have time to sit and wait until someone stupid will be killed in it. I simply can't believe they haven't changed his unit to something more appropriate. They could create improved version of Pikemen or something like that. And where are Ottoman generals? We have Ottoman campaign, just for a second! Probably we won't get Ottoman generals in this update, which is very strange. They didn't show anything about them, neither about the new unit for Mehmed the Conqueror, Sudan Musketeer (which in my opinion should be named Sipahi) I hope I'm wrong though because I really wanted to play with them. I hope they haven't revealed all the details about the new update in their video. But, of course, they haven't mentioned it neither in their "leaks", nor in this video.
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Post by kingbutawl on Sept 23, 2022 13:41:17 GMT
That is a strange thing... After almost half a year of playing all new generals should be better or, at least, have interesting skills and abilities to compete with existing generals. So far I can't say that John Tzimiskes is better than cavalry generals we already have. His active skill is of dubious quality and he has only 2 skills useful for a cavalry general. Besides, his unit is brand new and it will take months to upgrade it to respectable levels. William Wallace, on the other hand, will command one of the oldest units of the game. The problem is that it is one of the worst units of the game He can set traps. The problem is that we attack 90% of the time, and simply don't have time to sit and wait until someone stupid will be killed in it. I simply can't believe they haven't changed his unit to something more appropriate. They could create improved version of Pikemen or something like that. And where are Ottoman generals? We have Ottoman campaign, just for a second! Probably we won't get Ottoman generals in this update, which is very strange. They didn't show anything about them, neither about the new unit for Mehmed the Conqueror, Sudan Musketeer (which in my opinion should be named Sipahi) I hope I'm wrong though because I really wanted to play with them. Considering we have “Mongolian riders” instead of “Mangudais”, I see only coherence in their approach.
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Post by playeruser37 on Sept 23, 2022 14:04:44 GMT
Maybe Tzimikes's skill was maked to Make Timur , Subutai , and other archer generals in Mongolian raider, imperial bow cavalery and mamluks archers to not be so op
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Post by anastasios on Sept 23, 2022 14:05:55 GMT
I'm eager to see the new conquest features. If they limit the amount of time you spend in conquest due to micromanagement, then it's significant. Also it will allow you to be more of an armchair strategist rather than a tactician. Furthermore, the negativity seems unfounded, since it is going to be one of the updates with the most content. At least wait until its out
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Post by playeruser37 on Sept 23, 2022 14:18:15 GMT
Maybe they want Mehmed the conqueror, Suleyman the magnificent, Yelu Dashi and Li Shimin as a surprise when the update will be out.
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Post by verily on Sept 23, 2022 14:22:24 GMT
I'm eager to see the new conquest features. If they limit the amount of time you spend in conquest due to micromanagement, then it's significant. Also it will allow you to be more of an armchair strategist rather than a tactician. Furthermore, the negativity seems unfounded, since it is going to be one of the updates with the most content. At least wait until its out the conquest update is good for auto click/ai. i'm more manual approach and so i will not benefit from it, like the bribing your ally to fight your enemy.
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Post by stoic on Sept 23, 2022 15:24:04 GMT
I'm eager to see the new conquest features. If they limit the amount of time you spend in conquest due to micromanagement, then it's significant. Also it will allow you to be more of an armchair strategist rather than a tactician. Furthermore, the negativity seems unfounded, since it is going to be one of the updates with the most content. At least wait until its out the conquest update is good for auto click/ai. i'm more manual approach and so i will not benefit from it, like the bribing your ally to fight your enemy. Oh, I am quite sure that AI won't be able to win such complex conquests as these new ones on auto notwithstanding how many options there are. So, I see it as additional micromanagement for manual conquests, and hardly anything more than that. AI is only good at straightforward conquests like Western Roman Empire, for example, when you deploy your best generals and hope they will be able to crush everything around.
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Post by ALWA~Dark Prince of Wallachia on Sept 23, 2022 16:00:25 GMT
Probably we won't get Ottoman generals in this update, which is very strange. They didn't show anything about them, neither about the new unit for Mehmed the Conqueror, Sudan Musketeer (which in my opinion should be named Sipahi) I hope I'm wrong though because I really wanted to play with them. Considering we have “Mongolian riders” instead of “Mangudais”, I see only coherence in their approach. It's not quite like that. Indeed, i think they should rename Mongolian riders to be Mangudais. But, with all due respect, i cannot recall any sudanese soldier to fight in Ottoman armies. 😂
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Post by kingbutawl on Sept 23, 2022 18:40:29 GMT
Considering we have “Mongolian riders” instead of “Mangudais”, I see only coherence in their approach. It's not quite like that. Ideed, i think they should rename Mongolian riders to be Mangudais. But, with all due respect, i cannot recall any sudanese soldier to fight in Ottoman armies. 😂 They always listen to our criticism, though. Just send a proper note of disappointment on discord and they will understand.
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Post by ɪʟʟʏᴀꜱᴠɪᴇʟ ᴠᴏɴ ᴇɪɴᴢʙᴇʀɴ on Sept 24, 2022 4:37:51 GMT
European War 7: Medieval Update Preview New Campaign: Ottoman Invasion New Hero Legend: Emperor of War-John I Tzimiskes Brave Heart: William Wallace New conquest: Extra large size map- Century of Iron Dozens of forces compete together for the victory of the century New mode: Epic Battle - First 2 chapters: Battle of Chalons and Battle of Poitiers New unit: Klibanophoros New bond: Heart of Freedom - William Wallace and Robert the Bruce New Feature: -Player can adjust defend or attack mode on the right side of the Conquest map -Added Formation, drag-and-drop function to the atlas -New Heraldry: Neptune Heraldry, Caelus Heraldry, Earthquake Heraldry and Constraint Heraldry -Can accelerate the fight in Territory Battle -Newly added raid function in treasure missions -The level limitation of units increases to lvl20 Features adjustment: -Privilege adjustment of Su Dingfang, Richard I and Arthur -New characteristic for Scottish Longspearman: Trap Immunity -Characteristic adjustment for Ranged Cavalry: Precision -Characteristic adjustment for Royal Cavalry: Knight Halberd -Generals are default in Hero Legend and can be changed -Except for the unique equipment, only one piece of equipment with the same characteristic can be equipped -Adjust the troops buff of Melee Infantry and Defense Infantry -Adjust the probability of Dodge and Charge of Melee Infantry
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