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Post by resiphius on Jul 25, 2022 16:39:50 GMT
I listed Cunningham as a choice is because he only cost 1060 for his Colonel rank and 1460 for M General, yet you also get 3 lvl Camouflage, in contrast you are paying 1700 for a factory Colonel Halsey, who is even more expensive than a Colonel rank Spruance. Also, I was suggesting him on the base that Kusuo Saiki will swap him out for another endgame general later. Well true if you don't promote Cunningham too much he does have a price advantage, but Camouflage is useless and he has 0 mobility. Be mindful that Halsey has 5* air as well. Cunningham is for short term stop-gap, that’s why I overlook his 0 mobility, otherwise the problem would be choosing between Nagano and Goring. |
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Post by Josip Broz Tito on Jul 25, 2022 17:07:33 GMT
Well true if you don't promote Cunningham too much he does have a price advantage, but Camouflage is useless and he has 0 mobility. Be mindful that Halsey has 5* air as well. Cunningham is for short term stop-gap, that’s why I overlook his 0 mobility, otherwise the problem would be choosing between Nagano and Goring. While you’re at it, why not just burn your medals? |
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Post by Josip Broz Tito on Jul 25, 2022 17:08:47 GMT
Cunningham is for short term stop-gap, that’s why I overlook his 0 mobility, otherwise the problem would be choosing between Nagano and Goring. While you’re at it, why not just burn your medals? Much more efficient at disposing of waste than buying Cunningham, am I right?  |
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Post by resiphius on Jul 25, 2022 17:19:20 GMT
While you’re at it, why not just burn your medals? Much more efficient at disposing of waste than buying Cunningham, am I right? I will consult my 3 EC with 5* in all field, Sansonetti, Eisenhower, Nimitz and Dönetz about your suggestion, smarty. Oh, and do you know where to buy a naval ship that sails on land in the Siberia? I’m fighting alien there for the gold stars |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jul 25, 2022 21:44:25 GMT
I disagree that Wolfpack is useless. As an admiral, they would be commonly attacked by other naval units, having a +8 extra damage (for most admirals) would help to deal more damage (without spending on the 5th navy star). This skill does lose its purpose in aliens, but in early to mid game it is an invaluable skill. And we don't even need an admiral in early-mid game. Sansonetti is enough against humans, so when the second admiral joins, aliens are his only enemies. |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jul 25, 2022 21:58:47 GMT
Well true if you don't promote Cunningham too much he does have a price advantage, but Camouflage is useless and he has 0 mobility. Be mindful that Halsey has 5* air as well. Cunningham is for short term stop-gap, that’s why I overlook his 0 mobility, otherwise the problem would be choosing between Nagano and Goring. A stopgap we don't need. Before this update it was Ozawa; now that we have Sansonetti, we shouldn't need one at all. |
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Post by Luigi Sansonetti on Jul 26, 2022 10:35:17 GMT
I listed Cunningham as a choice is because he only cost 1060 for his Colonel rank and 1460 for M General, yet you also get 3 lvl Camouflage, in contrast you are paying 1700 for a factory Colonel Halsey, who is even more expensive than a Colonel rank Spruance. Also, I was suggesting him on the base that Kusuo Saiki will swap him out for another endgame general later. Well true if you don't promote Cunningham too much he does have a price advantage, but Camouflage is useless and he has 0 mobility. Be mindful that Halsey has 5* air as well. Luigi Sansonetti is a skilled player so he doesn't need Cunningham as a stepping stone to any endgame general. In fact not just him, no one should get an admiral and expect to swap him out for someone else in 1.5 since Sansonetti is endgame material. If we are getting a second admiral, he has to be of endgame quality as well. I just finished making a Bai-silevsky EC ( Erich von Manstein 's endgame idea of not buying Konev), and I think I would rather spend two extra navy stars for my EC so that I can have a Sansonetti-like general rather than spend 1000 medals on another admiral. That free 3100 medals not spent on Yamamoto is a huge help. |
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Post by resiphius on Jul 27, 2022 15:34:10 GMT
Cunningham is for short term stop-gap, that’s why I overlook his 0 mobility, otherwise the problem would be choosing between Nagano and Goring. A stopgap we don't need. Before this update it was Ozawa; now that we have Sansonetti, we shouldn't need one at all. Of course we don’t need a naval stopgap, that’s why we don’t need Halsey either, because being a naval stopgap is the best shot he has: too many excessive components for a land 5* air general but does not perform good enough to justify his lower price comparing to his more expensive competitors, he also miserably failed to be a cheaper substitute of Yamamoto as a land-capable carrier general. |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jul 28, 2022 2:25:45 GMT
A stopgap we don't need. Before this update it was Ozawa; now that we have Sansonetti, we shouldn't need one at all. Of course we don’t need a naval stopgap, that’s why we don’t need Halsey either, because being a naval stopgap is the best shot he has: too many excessive components for a land 5* air general but does not perform good enough to justify his lower price comparing to his more expensive competitors, he also miserably failed to be a cheaper substitute of Yamamoto as a land-capable carrier general. But I didn't nominate Halsey as a stopgap. The biggest difference between Halsey and other land air generals is his HP. If stationed in safe areas, there isn't much of a difference between Halsey and Goring. A player should definitely choose Goring if he expects his air general to have a moderate degree of combat ability, but if not, I see no reason to exclude Halsey. As for Yamamoto, Halsey has an edge in price if you don't mind losing 30 HP. |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jul 28, 2022 2:30:02 GMT
Well true if you don't promote Cunningham too much he does have a price advantage, but Camouflage is useless and he has 0 mobility. Be mindful that Halsey has 5* air as well. Luigi Sansonetti is a skilled player so he doesn't need Cunningham as a stepping stone to any endgame general. In fact not just him, no one should get an admiral and expect to swap him out for someone else in 1.5 since Sansonetti is endgame material. If we are getting a second admiral, he has to be of endgame quality as well. I just finished making a Bai-silevsky EC ( Erich von Manstein 's endgame idea of not buying Konev), and I think I would rather spend two extra navy stars for my EC so that I can have a Sansonetti-like general rather than spend 1000 medals on another admiral. That free 3100 medals not spent on Yamamoto is a huge help. That's the ideal option for me as well. I'm going 3 ECs so even giving 5 navy stars will still be a better investment. Same logic for air force. There should be absolute zero need for an academy admiral in the current version. |
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Post by resiphius on Jul 29, 2022 7:06:43 GMT
Of course we don’t need a naval stopgap, that’s why we don’t need Halsey either, because being a naval stopgap is the best shot he has: too many excessive components for a land 5* air general but does not perform good enough to justify his lower price comparing to his more expensive competitors, he also miserably failed to be a cheaper substitute of Yamamoto as a land-capable carrier general. But I didn't nominate Halsey as a stopgap. The biggest difference between Halsey and other land air generals is his HP. If stationed in safe areas, there isn't much of a difference between Halsey and Goring. A player should definitely choose Goring if he expects his air general to have a moderate degree of combat ability, but if not, I see no reason to exclude Halsey. As for Yamamoto, Halsey has an edge in price if you don't mind losing 30 HP. But you thought Halsey is a choice if people want more naval stars than hp when compared to Goring, despite the fact that he doesn’t have sufficient health to act as useful naval general (on top of the fact that we already have ECs and Sansonetti to deal with most naval businesses), that’s where I thought you recommend him as a naval stopgap. |
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Post by Just One Bite on Jul 29, 2022 12:41:36 GMT
But I didn't nominate Halsey as a stopgap. The biggest difference between Halsey and other land air generals is his HP. If stationed in safe areas, there isn't much of a difference between Halsey and Goring. A player should definitely choose Goring if he expects his air general to have a moderate degree of combat ability, but if not, I see no reason to exclude Halsey. As for Yamamoto, Halsey has an edge in price if you don't mind losing 30 HP. But you thought Halsey is a choice if people want more naval stars than hp when compared to Goring, despite the fact that he doesn’t have sufficient health to act as useful naval general (on top of the fact that we already have ECs and Sansonetti to deal with most naval businesses), that’s where I thought you recommend him as a naval stopgap. You misunderstood. If Halsey is chosen, he would just be a land-air general that could also assist Sansonetti in naval operations, he is by no means a naval stopgap. |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Jul 30, 2022 6:38:30 GMT
But I didn't nominate Halsey as a stopgap. The biggest difference between Halsey and other land air generals is his HP. If stationed in safe areas, there isn't much of a difference between Halsey and Goring. A player should definitely choose Goring if he expects his air general to have a moderate degree of combat ability, but if not, I see no reason to exclude Halsey. As for Yamamoto, Halsey has an edge in price if you don't mind losing 30 HP. But you thought Halsey is a choice if people want more naval stars than hp when compared to Goring, despite the fact that he doesn’t have sufficient health to act as useful naval general (on top of the fact that we already have ECs and Sansonetti to deal with most naval businesses), that’s where I thought you recommend him as a naval stopgap. My mistake for not mentioning price. I was recommending Halsey as a permanent air general, with his main selling points being the lowest price and naval capabilities. Sansonetti is sufficient for naval combats; therefore, I have no intention to recommend any naval stopgap. |
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Post by resiphius on Jul 31, 2022 21:51:45 GMT
But you thought Halsey is a choice if people want more naval stars than hp when compared to Goring, despite the fact that he doesn’t have sufficient health to act as useful naval general (on top of the fact that we already have ECs and Sansonetti to deal with most naval businesses), that’s where I thought you recommend him as a naval stopgap. My mistake for not mentioning price. I was recommending Halsey as a permanent air general, with his main selling points being the lowest price and naval capabilities. Sansonetti is sufficient for naval combats; therefore, I have no intention to recommend any naval stopgap. I would rather put air stars on my artillery or infantry EC and hire a spare artillery/infantry general than hire Halsey. |
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Post by Erich von Manstein on Aug 2, 2022 1:43:21 GMT
My mistake for not mentioning price. I was recommending Halsey as a permanent air general, with his main selling points being the lowest price and naval capabilities. Sansonetti is sufficient for naval combats; therefore, I have no intention to recommend any naval stopgap. I would rather put air stars on my artillery or infantry EC and hire a spare artillery/infantry general than hire Halsey. And that is the difference in preference. I probably won't get any of them as well, but people who do, Halsey remains a feasible option. |
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