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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Dec 8, 2022 21:08:11 GMT
When did research become a thing and how does it work? suggested it, but I believe it's still in sort of testing phase (to be fair everything is). But anyways, I decided to do it. And how are panzers different from tanks? They aren't - I believe - I just used the same wording as Warlord. |
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Dec 8, 2022 21:11:49 GMT
350,000 infantry, 500 tanks and 1500 guns attack Istanbul and need a 6 to win (all out).
CQLl0aYH·
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Dec 8, 2022 21:13:49 GMT
350,000 infantry, 500 tanks and 1500 guns attack Istanbul and need a 6 to win (all out). CQLl0aYHI cannot believe it! Why am I cursed with so bad luck! Being pushed back to the sea the same amount of forces an all out landing on Istanbul again. 6 to win. _S8VPhjy· |
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Dec 8, 2022 21:16:31 GMT
350,000 infantry, 500 tanks and 1500 guns attack Istanbul and need a 6 to win (all out). CQLl0aYHI cannot believe it! Why am I cursed with so bad luck! Being pushed back to the sea the same amount of forces an all out landing on Istanbul again. 6 to win. _S8VPhjyThis is just unbelievable. |
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Post by Theron of Acragas on Dec 8, 2022 21:28:47 GMT
In that case I'll also get in on the Panzer action, I guess. I kind of feel like research for the major powers should progress in parallel more or less automatically though.
I forgot to mention, my troops on the Alpine border with Austria begin fortifying. Given the numbers of troops and the fairly small area to be defended, trenches will be complete in three pages.
We wish Austria to note that while a surprise attack could easily have seized Innsbruck at the very least, we choose not to advance into Austria proper. Italy makes no claims on Austrian territory, but only demands withdrawal from the illegally occupied territories. Yugoslavia will be liberated. And, purely for IRL reasons, Transylvania must be restored to Romania, where it belongs.
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Post by Warlord247 on Dec 8, 2022 23:22:57 GMT
Army Groups Emil, Friedrich, Julius, and Kaufmann (1,034,478 troops) are repositioned to the Italian border. Once there they will begin the construction of .1 fortification per round. They take 5 posts to move. Along with them moves the I-III panzer armies (1,725 tanks) as well as Artillery batteries 1 and 5 (4,000 guns) Army groups Gustav and Heinrich remain on the Polish border (453,952 troops) To clarify from earlier, Army Groups Ärger-Dora, as will as Ida, are stationed along the French border (1,800,000 troops). Accompanying them are the IV-VII Panzer armies (2,300 Panzers), as will as Artillery Batteries 2-4 (6,000 guns). 950 fighters, 500 bombers, and 270 AA (2 posts to move) will also be sent to the Italian and French borders. The factory focused on Panzer research will be diverted to the research of of Heavy forts and Guns (4 pages) which will allow entrenched troops to preform normal attack up to a +4 victory. My panzers had been upgraded once already, and now do +1.5 damage (side note on that, I feel it makes sense for entrenched troops to be able to skirmish while maintaining their entrenchment, is that agreed upon by everyone?) Please provide more detail on the positioning of your forces. The border of Austria and the illegally occupied territories is 300-400 km long (too lazy to measure properly right now). I do think my troops should arrive first and probably have a chance to make some advances before any Austrian troops arrive. My troops were at a depot ready to move out while yours were already in defensive positions and also have twice as far to travel as the majority of my forces. I don't really understand your last paragraph. You're talking about offensive skirmishing? Then I don't really see why defensive positions should apply, but if you can make a good argument I'm listening. I more detailed map shall be up in a few minutes. Sorry for the delay, it's been a busy day. As for the part about skrimishing, the defense bonus wouldn't apply to an attack, however making said attack wouldn't remove the infantry from the fortifications. Put simply, you can make an attack to inflict casualties without abandoning the defenses, so you still have the bonus next time you're attacked. Skirmishing doesn't result in any troop movement, so it makes sense to be able to do that and not lose the defensive bonus. What I'm researching would give the troops more firepower which can reach further, and is part of the fortifications themselves, so it makes sense for them to be able to make a higher level attack without leaving their defenses Does that make more sense? Also, I'll tag you in the first post with the relevant rule changes in the thread "future of the Rp", just read from where I tagged you onward. I thought I already had but I guess I forgot, sorry! |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Dec 8, 2022 23:32:40 GMT
This is just unbelievable. Now you know how I felt when I failed 3 attacks in a row in Romania lol |
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Post by Warlord247 on Dec 8, 2022 23:57:47 GMT
This is a map of the full zone. I'll make a more detailed one for each line once I can use my laptop. Red is army, blue is artillery, and purple is panzer. These are all of my forces, besides an uncomplete panzer reserve army and reserve artillery battery.  |
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Post by Theron of Acragas on Dec 9, 2022 6:09:17 GMT
 Sorry it's not the nicest map, but I advance by this much before Austrian opposition arrives. Given that your forces need some time to deploy, I honestly think I could get Ljubljana, but no need to be greedy. Note that starting positions are based on pre-WWII borders.
Based on your map I'm assuming a fairly even distribution of forces? I'll note that mine aren't evenly distributed, also that based on the map my right wing is flanking you. I'll wait for the more detailed map before attacking.
With regard to the skirmishing question, I assume after *any* attack you can choose to maintain your defensive positions instead of attacking. Well, unless you get routed, perhaps. If the question is what happens if you do a skirmishing attack and lose, then I agree that your positions don't change. |
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Post by Warlord247 on Dec 9, 2022 6:18:31 GMT
Hey Theron of Acragas , if you read my first message when I was moving my troops you'd have seen that the maneuver would have taken only 5 posts, which has most definitely passed by this point. Therefore my troops are already in position, and the map you've posted is invalid. (Edit: this came off a bit sparky sounding, I'm sorry, I'm a bit tired right now, and mean nothing by it) Also for clarification, I'm guarding Italy's northern border, and my navy is still stationed in the North Sea. |
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Post by Theron of Acragas on Dec 9, 2022 6:27:54 GMT
Hey Theron of Acragas , if you read my first message when I was moving my troops you'd have seen that the maneuver would have taken only 5 posts, which has most definitely passed by this point. Therefore my troops are already in position, and the map you've posted is invalid. (Edit: this came off a bit sparky sounding, I'm sorry, I'm a bit tired right now, and mean nothing by it) Also for clarification, I'm guarding Italy's northern border, and my navy is still stationed in the North Sea. If you check again, I responded three posts later that my troops would be advancing while yours are on the way, I just didn't have time to sit down and make a map then. I don't think this map is unreasonable. And in general, I think post limits need to have a bit of flexibility - sometimes nothing happens all day, sometimes France attacks on all fronts and we get 5 posts in 10 minutes. But it should be clear just from looking at your map that troops stationed in Italy, with the main concentration in northern Italy, have a headstart on those coming from the German frontier and there should, when it's straightforward, be a reasonable IRL time to take advantage of it. |
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Post by Warlord247 on Dec 9, 2022 6:32:32 GMT
Hey Theron of Acragas , if you read my first message when I was moving my troops you'd have seen that the maneuver would have taken only 5 posts, which has most definitely passed by this point. Therefore my troops are already in position, and the map you've posted is invalid. (Edit: this came off a bit sparky sounding, I'm sorry, I'm a bit tired right now, and mean nothing by it) Also for clarification, I'm guarding Italy's northern border, and my navy is still stationed in the North Sea. If you check again, I responded three posts later that my troops would be advancing while yours are on the way, I just didn't have time to sit down and make a map then. I don't think this map is unreasonable. Ohhh, my mistake, I was a bit confused. In that case yeah, I think it's reasonable. I'm working on my in depth map right now |
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Dec 13, 2022 20:58:13 GMT
I cannot believe it! Why am I cursed with so bad luck! Being pushed back to the sea the same amount of forces an all out landing on Istanbul again. 6 to win. _S8VPhjyThis is just unbelievable. I'm banging my head in the wall here, but I'll attempt a landing with 500 tanks, 1000 guns and as many infantry as I need for an over 3:1 (I'll calculate this later). 7 to win, this is all out. cFeh3wps· |
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Post by Theron of Acragas on Dec 15, 2022 8:08:46 GMT
Since we're a bit stalled, 100,000 men cross the Adriatic to occupy the port of Split. They'll arrive in two posts. After that, another 100,000 from Bari will be ordered to join them, taking another 4. 100,000 men from Sicily will move to garrison Taranto and Bari.
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Post by Theron of Acragas on Dec 19, 2022 20:58:19 GMT
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