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Post by Darth Nihilus on Jun 30, 2023 14:18:20 GMT
Only for Darth Nihilus I propose a treaty, which will include non-aggression, and that neither of us will allow armed forces hostile to the other access through our lands. Only for Kliment Jefremovitš VorošilovI can guarantee that my forces will not invade mainland France, territories that are held in the Balkans, or attack French troops inside my borders, but I can't guarantee elsewhere if I am compelled by the Soviets to do so. |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Jun 30, 2023 14:21:07 GMT
Since Germany has fallen out of position of fame and power and has collapsed, I propose a meeting of the leaders of concerned European powers - namely France, Spain, Soviet Union to a conference to carve up Germany peacefully. Armed conflict does no good to humans and the biggest threat to Spain has collapsed. Ours is an era of peace, not war and the balance of power must be maintained in Europe. Let this serve as a warning to all those nations who try to horde all the land and power and threaten the independence of innocent neutral countries. Let this also be a warning to all those states who claim to be 'communist' but in reality, is an oligarchic dictator holding entire power and misusing the concept of class struggle. This, my fellow humans is what happens if you don't allow power to the people. On this occasion, I would like to announce free and fair elections to be held in Spain. The period of turmoil and internal strife between our fellow countrymen is over and ahead of us, lies Glory and fame to be achieved. In order to do that, we need to be at peace with ourselves first and weed out all foreign influence, especially from the people who supported our enemies during the recent civil war. Let this day be known in history as the day when Democracy started to flourish in Europe and let this be remembered as the day which symbolises the fall of autocratic nations, thus restoring power to its original wielders - The common people. The Polish delegation is quite concerned with this conference. The idea of carving up a nation that borders Poland on two fronts while not inviting Poland itself is disrespectful to the Polish people, who have given their lives in multiple conflicts with Germany. |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Jun 30, 2023 14:23:53 GMT
Only for Darth Nihilus So, with Austria-Hungary ultimately leaving, only you, me, France and Slain have left. France and Spain are already allied, which leaves me alone and outnumbered. And you too. They can easily attack you without my or Austria-Hungary's support. As we are both alone now, what else is there for us to do except ultimately allying too, just like them?
So, I'm proposing an ultimate alliance, that will continue at least as long as the current balance remains. Otherwise, the RP will be very unfair, with one side overpowered against a single country. For the RP to be able to realistically continue, we need more or less balance in the alliances. In my proposed alliance, France and I would deal with each other, while you'd balance the force of Spain.
My only condition is that you announce the results of your new election, and that at least the social democrats/democratic socialists win it. You can still be democratic of course. The reason I propose this is roleplaying reasons; if our ideologies aligned, it'd be easier for us to cooperate. France and Spain are already doing this. Why not we do it too?
So, how does this sound? Only for Eugene V. DebsI will announce elections and give a favor to the socdem party, but I cannot guarantee that they will win (because of the whole dice thing) |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Jun 30, 2023 14:28:22 GMT
Poland holds national elections, for a representative democracy that will be held every 5 years. Our house contains 200 seats, 100 of whom belong to Poland, 75 of which are Lithuanian, and 25 of which belong to Polish Romania. As the general of the Polish army I personally endorse the center-left social democatic party. We have not allowed any fascist or communist parties to run for the time being.
Parties: Center-right (federalist) (1-3), center-left (socdem) (4-9), left (demsoc) (10-12).
Poland-North (centered in Warsaw): By7ftcYZ
Poland-South (centered in Krakow):
Lithuania:
Romania: ·······
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Post by Eugene V. Debs on Jun 30, 2023 14:28:42 GMT
Only for Darth Nihilus So, with Austria-Hungary ultimately leaving, only you, me, France and Slain have left. France and Spain are already allied, which leaves me alone and outnumbered. And you too. They can easily attack you without my or Austria-Hungary's support. As we are both alone now, what else is there for us to do except ultimately allying too, just like them?
So, I'm proposing an ultimate alliance, that will continue at least as long as the current balance remains. Otherwise, the RP will be very unfair, with one side overpowered against a single country. For the RP to be able to realistically continue, we need more or less balance in the alliances. In my proposed alliance, France and I would deal with each other, while you'd balance the force of Spain.
My only condition is that you announce the results of your new election, and that at least the social democrats/democratic socialists win it. You can still be democratic of course. The reason I propose this is roleplaying reasons; if our ideologies aligned, it'd be easier for us to cooperate. France and Spain are already doing this. Why not we do it too?
So, how does this sound? Only for Eugene V. DebsI will announce elections and give a favor to the socdem party, but I cannot guarantee that they will win (because of the whole dice thing) Only for Darth NihilusOf course, it's your choice, and I have respect to the will of the Polish people (not to the will of dice tho  ) I intend this to be an equal alliance, without being affected by the difference of our power. Please don't feel compelled to do something due to the threat of my hostility otherwise, I want this to be a proper alliance. If we were to do ally just because of being forced, I'd prefer not allying at all. |
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Jun 30, 2023 14:29:47 GMT
Ok, for some reason I thought 1 and 2 were possible dice rolls. 2-5 are federalist, 6-9 are socdem, and 10-12 are demsoc
That gives the federalists 75 seats, and the socdems 125 seats. The socdems win a majority in the house.
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Post by Darth Nihilus on Jun 30, 2023 14:31:25 GMT
Only for Darth Nihilus Of course, it's your choice, and I have respect to the will of the Polish people (not to the will of dice tho :D) I intend this to be an equal alliance, without being affected by the difference of our power. Please don't feel compelled to do something due to the threat of my hostility otherwise, I want this to be a proper alliance. If we were to do ally just because of being forced, I'd prefer not allying at all. Only for Eugene V. Debs, Good news, the socdems won a majority in the election (which was heavily skewed in their favour), and the federalists control 3/8ths of the house. Our alliance will go forward. |
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Post by Eugene V. Debs on Jun 30, 2023 14:45:24 GMT
Ok, for some reason I thought 1 and 2 were possible dice rolls. 2-5 are federalist, 6-9 are socdem, and 10-12 are demsoc That gives the federalists 75 seats, and the socdems 125 seats. The socdems win a majority in the house. We send our congratulations to the Polish social democrat party, and our support to the free will of the Polish people. Social democrats are our allies in many issues, while our methods may differ, we shouldn't ignore our many similarities either. We also use this opportunity to emphasize the importance of leftist unity, and never to repeat the mistakes of our previous administrations. As the Soviet Union, we also want to declare that we will do everthing we can to protect the Polish people against the rising tensions on Europe and against imperialist powers, should the Polish people wish our help. Our countries have had a good relationship ever since the beginning of this cycle of events, and as the the people of the Soviet Union, we intend to continue this as long as the Polish people wants it too. May the good relationship of our peoples continue forever! Long live Poland, and long live our glorious motherland! |
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Post by Eugene V. Debs on Jun 30, 2023 14:55:06 GMT
Since Germany has fallen out of position of fame and power and has collapsed, I propose a meeting of the leaders of concerned European powers - namely France, Spain, Soviet Union to a conference to carve up Germany peacefully. Armed conflict does no good to humans and the biggest threat to Spain has collapsed. Ours is an era of peace, not war and the balance of power must be maintained in Europe. Let this serve as a warning to all those nations who try to horde all the land and power and threaten the independence of innocent neutral countries. Let this also be a warning to all those states who claim to be 'communist' but in reality, is an oligarchic dictator holding entire power and misusing the concept of class struggle. This, my fellow humans is what happens if you don't allow power to the people. On this occasion, I would like to announce free and fair elections to be held in Spain. The period of turmoil and internal strife between our fellow countrymen is over and ahead of us, lies Glory and fame to be achieved. In order to do that, we need to be at peace with ourselves first and weed out all foreign influence, especially from the people who supported our enemies during the recent civil war. Let this day be known in history as the day when Democracy started to flourish in Europe and let this be remembered as the day which symbolises the fall of autocratic nations, thus restoring power to its original wielders - The common people. The Polish delegation is quite concerned with this conference. The idea of carving up a nation that borders Poland on two fronts while not inviting Poland itself is disrespectful to the Polish people, who have given their lives in multiple conflicts with Germany. Just like we promised, we shall support our neighbour Poland against the imperialist powers. See, they're trying to surround the Polish people against their own will and then they claim us to be imperialist, while they literally have empires themselves, unlike their claim of them being a democracy! Look at the hypocrisy! They don't invite the Polish people to something that concerns them very much, but well, what can you expect from imperialists? The Soviet people is together with the Polish people in this fight. Unlike the self-claimed "democracies" (totally ignore they're imperialists in fact), our words are backed by our actions. We'll stand with the Polish people in this conflict against imperialism. |
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Jun 30, 2023 15:08:46 GMT
France will not under any circumstances allow the Soviet Union to occupy all of Europe. I will however, give you Serbia, Vojvodina, Hungary, and Romania. Czechoslovakia should, as a sovereign democracy, become totally independent free of occupation. As to Poland, I will gladly allow the annexation of Eastern German lands to Poland. Then neither will the Soviet Union allow you to do the same. You cannot, in your right mind, expect me not to do the same. This is unacceptable. Let me explain. While Germany has many factories you'll benefit from, your proposed territory for me has nothing in comparison. You'll gain a lot by I'll gain nothing, which makes me doubt your intentions. Are you trying to expand your empire, or are you trying to cooperate with me to ensure a peaceful Europe? If the latter was true, you'd be more equal in your proposition. By this one, you gain significantly more factories and territory than me. If you were me, would you accept it? No, this game called diplomacy isn't played that way. Moreover, you have a direct and long border with former Austria-Hungary, so this new occupation zone will be like your own territory. You'll be able to directly protect these lands in the event of a threat. While, in my case, as I don't have a direct border, I'll be severerly disadvantaged, and your suggestion makes this even more unequal. You cannot expect me to accept this in your right mind. You gain the world, while I gain nothing in comparison, like I explained. You will gain the factories of Bucharest, Belgrade, and Budapest. I will gain the ones at Essen, Düsseldorf, Stuttgart, Hamburg, and Berlin. Sure I get two more, but it is only fair. While I have actively opposed German invasion of sovereign democracies and spilt my own men's blood in your wars, what have you done? You have sat in Moscow helping no one! Then you have made a deal with the devil carving up Romania with Austria-Hungary, and then you play the Saint claiming yourself to be the saviour of all peoples of the Earth! Tell me, oh worthy delegate, what has your country done to limit the power of Austria-Hungary? Was it not France that was the only one who opposed when Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia were attacked, while the Slviet Union was pursuing its own interests with Austria-Hungary? Was it not France that defeated Fascist Italy all alone? Was it not Spain, who despite only just having recovered from a civil war - which was won by us French, while you did nothing - declared war on Austria-Hungary? I call it outrageous to accuse democracies of hypocrisy and imperialism, while all you do is ally even with your political arch rivals, just for your own gain. If you are so anti-imperialistic, why don't you dissolve your empire right away? Your empire which Lenin made with mass terror, only to be bested at it by Stalin who spared no one he deemed an opponent. |
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Post by Eugene V. Debs on Jun 30, 2023 15:24:13 GMT
Then neither will the Soviet Union allow you to do the same. You cannot, in your right mind, expect me not to do the same. This is unacceptable. Let me explain. While Germany has many factories you'll benefit from, your proposed territory for me has nothing in comparison. You'll gain a lot by I'll gain nothing, which makes me doubt your intentions. Are you trying to expand your empire, or are you trying to cooperate with me to ensure a peaceful Europe? If the latter was true, you'd be more equal in your proposition. By this one, you gain significantly more factories and territory than me. If you were me, would you accept it? No, this game called diplomacy isn't played that way. Moreover, you have a direct and long border with former Austria-Hungary, so this new occupation zone will be like your own territory. You'll be able to directly protect these lands in the event of a threat. While, in my case, as I don't have a direct border, I'll be severerly disadvantaged, and your suggestion makes this even more unequal. You cannot expect me to accept this in your right mind. You gain the world, while I gain nothing in comparison, like I explained. You will gain the factories of Bucharest, Belgrade, and Budapest. I will gain the ones at Essen, Düsseldorf, Stuttgart, Hamburg, and Berlin. Sure I get two more, but it is only fair. While I have actively opposed German invasion of sovereign democracies and spilt my own men's blood in your wars, what have you done? You have sat in Moscow helping no one! Then you have made a deal with the devil carving up Romania with Austria-Hungary, and then you play the Saint claiming yourself to be the saviour of all peoples of the Earth! Tell me, oh worthy delegate, what has your country done to limit the power of Austria-Hungary? Was it not France that was the only one who opposed when Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia were attacked, while the Slviet Union was pursuing its own interests with Austria-Hungary? Was it not France that defeated Fascist Italy all alone? Was it not Spain, who despite only just having recovered from a civil war - which was won by us French, while you did nothing - declared war on Austria-Hungary? I call it outrageous to accuse democracies of hypocrisy and imperialism, while all you do is ally even with your political arch rivals, just for your own gain. If you are so anti-imperialistic, why don't you dissolve your empire right away? Your empire which Lenin made with mass terror, only to be bested at it by Stalin who spared no one he deemed an opponent. First, I'd like to answer your misconceptions. 1. I helped you in the Baltics, don't you dare dishonour our heroes who gave their lives for liberty of the peoples of the Baltics. You literally control some of those lands yourself, our soldiers gave their lives for you. 2. Poland collaborated with Austria-Hungary too, we both got territory which otherwise Austria-Hungary would get. We both did this in the same time, informing each other, because you were collaborating with Italy as well. Why don't you blame Poland as well? Because they can't be blamed, and neither can I. Your behaviour is hypocritical. 3. Likewise, both Poland and I had a positive relationship with Austria-Hungary, against the threat of the fascist Italy. 4. You seemed to be collaborating with Italy, a fascist imperialist power. I'd definitely prefer a monarchy to fascism, which is why I supported Austria-Hungary against Italy. A fascist power and a monarchy would have destroyed each other. 5. The Soviet Constitution allows every republic the right to leave, we're not an empire. We're a voluntary union, continuing with the free will of our people, while you're an empire. Tell me, what about your empire? Your colonies, from Africa to Asia? All the blood spilled to form it? Your empire is a betrayal to the French Revolution and the Paris Commune, as well as the Revolutions of 1848! 6. What do you think the peoples you destroyed would think? You have the second biggest empire after the UK, you're literally the dictionary definition of imperialism. All the people France massacred, all the free peoples France destroyed and conquered! You still have an active empire. How can you blame me with the mistakes of Stain while your empire spilled greater blood, spreading your empire to almost every continent? 7. If you blame due to Stalin's mistakes, then I'll blame you due to the appeasement policy of France. When Nazi Germany was a thing, your leaders collaborated with the Nazis, making appeasements by literally gifting sovereign countries to the Third Reich! You tried to appease a monster. And if I can be blamed due to Stalin, then you've got far more things to be blamed for. You were the ones who took away all liberties of the German nation, and then tried to appease the new born monster when it decided to avenge this. You were the ones who directly caused (and then allowed by appeasement) the rise of the Nazi Germany in the first place! |
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Jun 30, 2023 17:03:58 GMT
You will gain the factories of Bucharest, Belgrade, and Budapest. I will gain the ones at Essen, Düsseldorf, Stuttgart, Hamburg, and Berlin. Sure I get two more, but it is only fair. While I have actively opposed German invasion of sovereign democracies and spilt my own men's blood in your wars, what have you done? You have sat in Moscow helping no one! Then you have made a deal with the devil carving up Romania with Austria-Hungary, and then you play the Saint claiming yourself to be the saviour of all peoples of the Earth! Tell me, oh worthy delegate, what has your country done to limit the power of Austria-Hungary? Was it not France that was the only one who opposed when Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia were attacked, while the Slviet Union was pursuing its own interests with Austria-Hungary? Was it not France that defeated Fascist Italy all alone? Was it not Spain, who despite only just having recovered from a civil war - which was won by us French, while you did nothing - declared war on Austria-Hungary? I call it outrageous to accuse democracies of hypocrisy and imperialism, while all you do is ally even with your political arch rivals, just for your own gain. If you are so anti-imperialistic, why don't you dissolve your empire right away? Your empire which Lenin made with mass terror, only to be bested at it by Stalin who spared no one he deemed an opponent. First, I'd like to answer your misconceptions. 1. I helped you in the Baltics, don't you dare dishonour our heroes who gave their lives for liberty of the peoples of the Baltics. You literally control some of those lands yourself, our soldiers gave their lives for you. 2. Poland collaborated with Austria-Hungary too, we both got territory which otherwise Austria-Hungary would get. We both did this in the same time, informing each other, because you were collaborating with Italy as well. Why don't you blame Poland as well? Because they can't be blamed, and neither can I. Your behaviour is hypocritical. 3. Likewise, both Poland and I had a positive relationship with Austria-Hungary, against the threat of the fascist Italy. 4. You seemed to be collaborating with Italy, a fascist imperialist power. I'd definitely prefer a monarchy to fascism, which is why I supported Austria-Hungary against Italy. A fascist power and a monarchy would have destroyed each other. 5. The Soviet Constitution allows every republic the right to leave, we're not an empire. We're a voluntary union, continuing with the free will of our people, while you're an empire. Tell me, what about your empire? Your colonies, from Africa to Asia? All the blood spilled to form it? Your empire is a betrayal to the French Revolution and the Paris Commune, as well as the Revolutions of 1848! 6. What do you think the peoples you destroyed would think? You have the second biggest empire after the UK, you're literally the dictionary definition of imperialism. All the people France massacred, all the free peoples France destroyed and conquered! You still have an active empire. How can you blame me with the mistakes of Stain while your empire spilled greater blood, spreading your empire to almost every continent? 7. If you blame due to Stalin's mistakes, then I'll blame you due to the appeasement policy of France. When Nazi Germany was a thing, your leaders collaborated with the Nazis, making appeasements by literally gifing sovereign countries to the Third Reich! You tried to appease a monster. And if I can be blamed due to Stalin, then you've got far more things to be blamed for. *Auto corrected*, I lost all my progress writing this twice so I won't answer poetically. 1. I lost 35,000 men. You cam e after me and Poland did all the work. 2 - 4. I didn't collaborate with Italy. You supported Austro-Hungarian expansionism, I never supported Italian expansionism. I don't blame Poland cause they don't blame me. 5 - 6. I doubt it, why are you militarily occupying Estonia and Romania then? My empire has its flaws, but it was not made by today's people of France. If we'd dissolve it, the colonies would succumb into wars and turmoil. 7. I didn't appease Nazi Germany, the only one appeasing was you. Austria joined Germany willingfully after which they both joined Austria-Hungary. I opposed Austrian expansion, you supported it, don't dare call me a hypocrite! 8. Now, you cannot deny my offer is fair, so why don't you accept it? |
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Post by Eugene V. Debs on Jun 30, 2023 17:20:14 GMT
First, I'd like to answer your misconceptions. 1. I helped you in the Baltics, don't you dare dishonour our heroes who gave their lives for liberty of the peoples of the Baltics. You literally control some of those lands yourself, our soldiers gave their lives for you. 2. Poland collaborated with Austria-Hungary too, we both got territory which otherwise Austria-Hungary would get. We both did this in the same time, informing each other, because you were collaborating with Italy as well. Why don't you blame Poland as well? Because they can't be blamed, and neither can I. Your behaviour is hypocritical. 3. Likewise, both Poland and I had a positive relationship with Austria-Hungary, against the threat of the fascist Italy. 4. You seemed to be collaborating with Italy, a fascist imperialist power. I'd definitely prefer a monarchy to fascism, which is why I supported Austria-Hungary against Italy. A fascist power and a monarchy would have destroyed each other. 5. The Soviet Constitution allows every republic the right to leave, we're not an empire. We're a voluntary union, continuing with the free will of our people, while you're an empire. Tell me, what about your empire? Your colonies, from Africa to Asia? All the blood spilled to form it? Your empire is a betrayal to the French Revolution and the Paris Commune, as well as the Revolutions of 1848! 6. What do you think the peoples you destroyed would think? You have the second biggest empire after the UK, you're literally the dictionary definition of imperialism. All the people France massacred, all the free peoples France destroyed and conquered! You still have an active empire. How can you blame me with the mistakes of Stain while your empire spilled greater blood, spreading your empire to almost every continent? 7. If you blame due to Stalin's mistakes, then I'll blame you due to the appeasement policy of France. When Nazi Germany was a thing, your leaders collaborated with the Nazis, making appeasements by literally gifing sovereign countries to the Third Reich! You tried to appease a monster. And if I can be blamed due to Stalin, then you've got far more things to be blamed for. *Auto corrected*, I lost all my progress writing this twice so I won't answer poetically. 1. I lost 35,000 men. You cam e after me and Poland did all the work. 2 - 4. I didn't collaborate with Italy. You supported Austro-Hungarian expansionism, I never supported Italian expansionism. I don't blame Poland cause they don't blame me. 5 - 6. I doubt it, why are you militarily occupying Estonia and Romania then? My empire has its flaws, but it was not made by today's people of France. If we'd dissolve it, the colonies would succumb into wars and turmoil. 7. I didn't appease Nazi Germany, the only one appeasing was you. Austria joined Germany willingfully after which they both joined Austria-Hungary. I opposed Austrian expansion, you supported it, don't dare call me a hypocrite! 8. Now, you cannot deny my offer is fair, so why don't you accept it? 1. You were the ones who allowed and caused the rise of the Nazi Germany in the first place. For the unfair Versailles, the Germans wanted revenge. And when the monster was born, you tried to appease it, allowing it to grow. 2-4. I didn't support their expansionism, just like you had to cooperate with Italy, we and Poland had to so the same with Austria-Hungary. Don't accuse me if you'll deny you did the same thing for the same reason. 5-6. Why are you militarily occupying the Baltics then? Or Albania? Or the rest of your colonies? Your empire has its flaws? Are you serious? Imperialism cannot be excused, and you're just being hypocritical when you accuse me with Romania and Estonia, while you're doing the samw with Albania and the Baltics. 6.2. If you truly wanted, you could dissolve your empire. Even if not socialism, capitalist democracy is still better than imperialism. Your empire is kept alive by force. While the USSR is a voluntary union. 7. You didn't appease Nazi Germany? The historians are already writing about this called "the appeasement policy" You were the ones who allowed the rearmament of Rhineland and the German rearmament in the first place. I'm not saying the Germans wanting to defend against French and British aggression is wrong. I'm saying that you were the one behind the Versailles. And then the one who tried to appease the Nazi Germany and ignored all its violations of the agreement, allowing the monster to rise. 8. I didn't support the Austrian expansion if you didn't support the Italian fascists. I, just like Poland, cooperated with them because we thought you were cooperating with Italy. This is I assume what caused this disagreement in the first place. Also, you knew of my and Poland's plans in Romania. I'd tagged you as well. You didn't object, because you knew our reasons. And now, you're acting like we're the agressors. 9. I don't think so, like I explained. Unless you want to fight, I see no reason to become this aggressive. |
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Jun 30, 2023 17:44:53 GMT
*Auto corrected*, I lost all my progress writing this twice so I won't answer poetically. 1. I lost 35,000 men. You cam e after me and Poland did all the work. 2 - 4. I didn't collaborate with Italy. You supported Austro-Hungarian expansionism, I never supported Italian expansionism. I don't blame Poland cause they don't blame me. 5 - 6. I doubt it, why are you militarily occupying Estonia and Romania then? My empire has its flaws, but it was not made by today's people of France. If we'd dissolve it, the colonies would succumb into wars and turmoil. 7. I didn't appease Nazi Germany, the only one appeasing was you. Austria joined Germany willingfully after which they both joined Austria-Hungary. I opposed Austrian expansion, you supported it, don't dare call me a hypocrite! 8. Now, you cannot deny my offer is fair, so why don't you accept it? 1. You were the ones who allowed and caused the rise of the Nazi Germany in the first place. For the unfair Versailles, the Germans wanted revenge. And when the monster was born, you tried to appease it, allowing it to grow. 2-4. I didn't support their expansionism, just like you had to cooperate with Italy, we and Poland had to so the same with Austria-Hungary. Don't accuse me if you'll deny you did the same thing for the same reason. 5-6. Why are you militarily occupying the Baltics then? Or Albania? Or the rest of your colonies? Your empire has its flaws? Are you serious? Imperialism cannot be excused, and you're just being hypocritical when you accuse me with Romania and Estonia, while you're doing the samw with Albania and the Baltics. 6.2. If you truly wanted, you could dissolve your empire. Even if not socialism, capitalist democracy is still better than imperialism. Your empire is kept alive by force. While the USSR is a voluntary union. 7. You didn't appease Nazi Germany? The historians are already writing about this called "the appeasement policy" You were the ones who allowed the rearmament of Rhineland and the German rearmament in the first place. I'm not saying the Germans wanting to defend against French and British aggression is wrong. I'm saying that you were the one behind the Versailles. And then the one who tried to appease the Nazi Germany and ignored all its violations of the agreement, allowing the monster to rise. 8. I didn't support the Austrian expansion if you didn't support the Italian fascists. I, just like Poland, cooperated with them because we thought you were cooperating with Italy. This is I assume what caused this disagreement in the first place. Also, you knew of my and Poland's plans in Romania. I'd tagged you as well. You didn't object, because you knew our reasons. And now, you're acting like we're the agressors. 9. I don't think so, like I explained. Unless you want to fight, I see no reason to become this aggressive. 1. I would he a hypocrite if I was the one who started blaming you of imperialism. 2. When and how did I co-operate with Italy? Which country did I help them invade? 3. Do you accept the terms, and if not, present atleast a reasonable counter offer. |
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Post by Kliment Jefremovitš Vorošilov on Jun 30, 2023 17:48:26 GMT
Only for Darth Nihilus I propose a treaty, which will include non-aggression, and that neither of us will allow armed forces hostile to the other access through our lands. Only for Kliment Jefremovitš VorošilovI can guarantee that my forces will not invade mainland France, territories that are held in the Balkans, or attack French troops inside my borders, but I can't guarantee elsewhere if I am compelled by the Soviets to do so. Only for Darth NihilusThen I cannot promise anything in return. |
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) I intend this to be an equal alliance, without being affected by the difference of our power. Please don't feel compelled to do something due to the threat of my hostility otherwise, I want this to be a proper alliance. If we were to do ally just because of being forced, I'd prefer not allying at all.
