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Post by grizz on Dec 4, 2022 12:44:01 GMT
Hello everyone! Just started playing EU war 7 yesterday and found this great community this morning. I am progressing fine currently but would like any advice tips on going forward which will be appreciated! As of right now I am on chapter 3 with 1.2mil coins and 4.2k medals Just have a few questions of my own..
Can f2p finish the campaign without IAP Gens?
Can F2P Gens compete with IAP Gens? Or are they another tier?
What are the best F2P Gens I should work towards for each respective unit types?
Should I keep my mercenary orders for recruiting until I have progressed much future in the campaign and have unlocked more units?
What is the best strategy in terms of long term? Pretty much any game that I've played I like to play for the long term and get invested in if that helps with my direction.. I am not opposed to IAP but if I can hold out for the time being until perhaps sales come up?
Thanks in advance!
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Post by conkueror on Dec 4, 2022 13:37:30 GMT
Hello everyone! Just started playing EU war 7 yesterday and found this great community this morning. I am progressing fine currently but would like any advice tips on going forward which will be appreciated! As of right now I am on chapter 3 with 1.2mil coins and 4.2k medals Just have a few questions of my own.. Can f2p finish the campaign without IAP Gens? Can F2P Gens compete with IAP Gens? Or are they another tier? What are the best F2P Gens I should work towards for each respective unit types? Should I keep my mercenary orders for recruiting until I have progressed much future in the campaign and have unlocked more units? What is the best strategy in terms of long term? Pretty much any game that I've played I like to play for the long term and get invested in if that helps with my direction.. I am not opposed to IAP but if I can hold out for the time being until perhaps sales come up? Thanks in advance! There are already many great guides and tips on this forum (and on Reddit too) but I'll try to give some quick tips. 1. It is possible to finish campaign (at least up til now, more chapters are to come. Hundred Years' War 1 is the last one currently available), but it will likely be very hard and grindy. 2. I don't think many IAP-gens itself are that game-changing, aside from Richard. He is a truck among bumping cars  . Though their priviledges are the biggest thing about them, some of those are incredibly good and make a huge difference between f2p and p2p players. Also, you'll need PoH (battle pass) for many f2p gens to unlock their full potential. Towards the end-game you'll have to focus on gens whose weapon you have access to. PoH is easily the best in-app-purchase to get if you want to spend any money. 4. About gens, there are many guides already so I'll skip this part. And I quess it is up to you whether to save merc orders. If you don't have trouble progressing right now, you could do that and wait until you unlock more units for the recruitment tool. 5. Long-term plan: Well, I suggest to get few good gens at first, then buy the golden and purple items from the shop (and blue if needed). Then you can either save medals to buy merc orders from shop ONCE IN A MONTH when there is a sale (last 3 days, you'll see when it starts again), or buy more gens, as you prefer. Later, try to focus on few good units to upgrade and grind for. Play territory mode daily as soon as you unlock it, thats your best way to grind resources. Oh, and once you have enough medals, buy gens with hero legends, they give nice rewards too. There is a lot more if you want to dig deep in the game like I do, but just search from this forum 😅 |
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Post by grizz on Dec 4, 2022 14:39:27 GMT
Hello everyone! Just started playing EU war 7 yesterday and found this great community this morning. I am progressing fine currently but would like any advice tips on going forward which will be appreciated! As of right now I am on chapter 3 with 1.2mil coins and 4.2k medals Just have a few questions of my own.. Can f2p finish the campaign without IAP Gens? Can F2P Gens compete with IAP Gens? Or are they another tier? What are the best F2P Gens I should work towards for each respective unit types? Should I keep my mercenary orders for recruiting until I have progressed much future in the campaign and have unlocked more units? What is the best strategy in terms of long term? Pretty much any game that I've played I like to play for the long term and get invested in if that helps with my direction.. I am not opposed to IAP but if I can hold out for the time being until perhaps sales come up? Thanks in advance! There are already many great guides and tips on this forum (and on Reddit too) but I'll try to give some quick tips. 1. It is possible to finish campaign (at least up til now, more chapters are to come. Hundred Years' War 1 is the last one currently available), but it will likely be very hard and grindy. 2. I don't think many IAP-gens itself are that game-changing, aside from Richard. He is a truck among bumping cars . Though their priviledges are the biggest thing about them, some of those are incredibly good and make a huge difference between f2p and p2p players. Also, you'll need PoH (battle pass) for many f2p gens to unlock their full potential. Towards the end-game you'll have to focus on gens whose weapon you have access to. PoH is easily the best in-app-purchase to get if you want to spend any money. 4. About gens, there are many guides already so I'll skip this part. And I quess it is up to you whether to save merc orders. If you don't have trouble progressing right now, you could do that and wait until you unlock more units for the recruitment tool. 5. Long-term plan: Well, I suggest to get few good gens at first, then buy the golden and purple items from the shop (and blue if needed). Then you can either save medals to buy merc orders from shop ONCE IN A MONTH when there is a sale (last 3 days, you'll see when it starts again), or buy more gens, as you prefer. Later, try to focus on few good units to upgrade and grind for. Play territory mode daily as soon as you unlock it, thats your best way to grind resources. Oh, and once you have enough medals, buy gens with hero legends, they give nice rewards too. There is a lot more if you want to dig deep in the game like I do, but just search from this forum 😅 Thanks for your reply! Yea I've been looking on YouTube etc but figured I put a post up Incase things have changed since those posts a while back. Yea I was looking at Richard earlier before your post as the privilege is nice long term. I've tried to find a guide/list of gens that are f2p that are close to the IAP Gens but couldn't find a up to date one.. perhaps you could link one for me? I ma tempted by Richard.. would you say that is the best purchase now/late game? When it comes to the IAP Gens what are they needed for after campaign? Is there a online aspect vs other people and paid players dominate? Thanks in advance Edit- just purchased Richard 😅😁 |
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Post by conkueror on Dec 4, 2022 15:24:05 GMT
Yea I've been looking on YouTube etc but figured I put a post up Incase things have changed since those posts a while back. Yea I was looking at Richard earlier before your post as the privilege is nice long term. I've tried to find a guide/list of gens that are f2p that are close to the IAP Gens but couldn't find a up to date one.. perhaps you could link one for me? I ma tempted by Richard.. would you say that is the best purchase now/late game? When it comes to the IAP Gens what are they needed for after campaign? Is there a online aspect vs other people and paid players dominate? Thanks in advance Edit- just purchased Richard 😅😁[/quote] If you like to play all aspects of the game, you can use them everywhere. (main campaign, hero legends, treasure missions, epic battles and in territory and conquest modes). Expedition requires as good generals as possible up to a point, until you can complete all 15 stages (you'll get pass coins to skip some to make it easier at some point). I would say best iaps are PoH, Saladin, Richard, Charlemagne (esp if you have PoH) and Black Prince since latest update changed his priviledge. european-war-4.boards.net/thread/18342/best-generals-rankingeuropean-war-4.boards.net/thread/18430/top-tier-generals-keepingeuropean-war-4.boards.net/thread/18172/all-recommended-generalshere are some useful links about generals. You can see from generals info page and by looking at PoH and triumphs where and when generals weapon is available and if it is free or not. |
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Post by lafluth on Dec 4, 2022 15:28:05 GMT
Hey there, welcome to the wonderful world of ew7  I am by no means an expert but will give you a few of my own views on the game, fwiw. Generally speaking, try to get opinions from different people and see what makes sense to you. You will regularly find conflicting advice, as there are different ways to approach the game. First off, it is absolutely possible to ‘finish’ the campaign as 100% f2p. I am full f2p and have finished campaigned up until ch. 13 included, which is the latest. I am however struggling to go further than mid ch. 11 in hard atm. Just need to wait for my units and gens to improve to progress further. So far I would say f2p is doable but, as it should be, takes longer, requires more grinding and causes the occasional stall. Whereas p2w will go much quicker and will be less frustrating. When I see all the resources I could get if I were p2w it just boggles the mind. Here I am grinding for a week to upgrade a unit by 1 level when p2w can upgrade the same by 5 levels in one day. F2p is a bit masochistic. But still doable. It is often said you should focus on a few units as f2p and invest most resources in these. While I absolutely get why that makes sense, I am actually doing this half way. I am focusing on some units but definitely more than just a few. It is certainly a drag but I find it more fun to play around with a larger variety of special abilities and gen special units. I know it means it will take me longer though. In terms of f2p gens there are definitely some very good ones in this game. In fact, I have never felt my gens were the part of my set up letting me down. It is really the unit level that makes a big difference between f2p and p2w. Richard is however head and shoulder above all other gens it seems though. Over time you can get all the important f2p gens available, so it is not really a question of which one should you get but rather in which order. The answer to that question is very simple: get the ones for which you have the special weapon first. So iirc it will be something like: roland > narses > alfred > cnut > el cid > nevsky > basil > timur. All of these are very strong when fully upgraded (perhaps roland and narses could be considered second tier, but that might just be the way I have my gens set up). Alfred, cnut, basil, timur are amongst the absolute best gens in the game, amongst both f2p and iap. Much later in the game tzimiskes, gao, and potentially li jing and bruce are also super strong. So my advice is grind as much as you can, get your gens with special weapons upgraded as a matter of priority. Make sure you have their special units too. And perhaps for the first month or so don’t spend too much cash and gold until you have a better grasp of this complex game. Especially in terms of what merc units to focus on upgrading, where to spend souls etc. Some stuff I only realised after 2 months of playing (like impact of moral, which unit wins vs. other in which circumstances, what abilities make a difference, what I can get from territory or epic battles, etc etc). Also, as f2p, getting top tier gens without their p2w weapons is not worthless as their hero legends provide much needed ressources. You will not use these gens in campaign or conquest, but you can still use them in expedition too. |
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Post by lafluth on Dec 4, 2022 17:09:37 GMT
And also, if you like conquest or think it can get you resources you want (which it will if you have time to play it… very quickly it is not a challenge any more and not that much fun…), justinian makes a big difference when appointed as counsel
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Post by grizz on Dec 5, 2022 5:33:58 GMT
And also, if you like conquest or think it can get you resources you want (which it will if you have time to play it… very quickly it is not a challenge any more and not that much fun…), justinian makes a big difference when appointed as counsel Thanks for that.. I'm trying to figure out what units to upgrade so I can get Richards crown from honor tree thingy.. what advice would you give for for using souls etc ? Should I just upgrade all units even shoot ones to get the points to get Richards unique item? I also picked up Alfred.. and have his unique item.. I could upgrade him and his ranks etc or is it worth saving the resources? Quickest way to get immortality item? |
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Post by lafluth on Dec 5, 2022 8:32:38 GMT
Others with more experience should chime in but my personal take, specifically regarding getting to richard’s crown in honor of soldier, is upgrade whatever unit you think makes sense It is a very early reward and you should get it quickly. So you cannot really go wrong. If I had to choose, given that you have richard, you might as well upgrade your templars, they are one of the best units in the game and will be a beast on richard with his crown. Others to consider are noble cavalry (good units easier to upgrade since there are more possibilities to get fragments, like in the shop with gold, also generate the 20pc bonus with alfred and his unique weapon), woad raiders and ravenna crossbows for their atk movt bonus, mamluks, ibcs, and of course varangians which I believe are universally recognised to be one of the best infy units. All chinese units are very strong but some are more difficult to get. Upgrading non-merc units (the ‘regular’ ones at the top line of every type of unit, the ones without the castle emblem) is useful for campaign and imho should not be under-estimated. The level of these units will be the level of the units you get to command in campaigns. So the more upgraded they are the easier the campaign missions will be (in the ones where they are used). I would say, at your stage in the game, upgrade pretty much all non-merc units and pick a few merc units to focus on, eg templars. I would save souls for later in the game, stockpile like 2000 or even 4000 before using them. By then you will have a much better picture as to where you will want to spend them and will be happy you have them at disposal. In the meantime you should be able to progress in campaign without much trouble, quite far. There is a limit on max upgrade for non-merc units for each stage of the campaign anyway. I might have overdone it but I maxed all non-merc units before moving to the next chapter every time. And as full f2p it was not too tedious. Ranks for gens and mithril for special weapon: just spend them on your few best gens. Start by using a little and increase usage as you go along and again have a more definite picture of who your top gens will be. They make a big difference, and while you will get enough to max all your top gens over time without issue, they are slow to get so should be used wisely. The one thing that would be a bit sad is using a bunch on a gen now and realising later that you will not use that gen any more because your other gens are better by then. But again it is not a crucial mistake, it just means it will take you longer to upgrade your other gens, not that it will become impossible. Try and upgrade one good cav, one good archer and one good infy gen to start with. Some missions will need a certain type more than another and they will complement each other on the battlefield. |
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Post by stoic on Dec 5, 2022 14:07:22 GMT
And also, if you like conquest or think it can get you resources you want (which it will if you have time to play it… very quickly it is not a challenge any more and not that much fun…), justinian makes a big difference when appointed as counsel Thanks for that.. I'm trying to figure out what units to upgrade so I can get Richards crown from honor tree thingy.. what advice would you give for for using souls etc ? Should I just upgrade all units even shoot ones to get the points to get Richards unique item? I also picked up Alfred.. and have his unique item.. I could upgrade him and his ranks etc or is it worth saving the resources? Quickest way to get immortality item? It is always preferable to have a clear plan before upgrading units, items, etc. Since you just started the run, you can avoid many mistakes we've made. In my opinion, you should avoid buying generals who don't have personal weapons AND special chapters. Taking this into account you can easily draw your map: Cavalry: Richard (since you already have him ), Alfred, Nevsky, Tzimiskes Units - Templars, Noble Cavalry, Boyars, Clibanarii (optional) Infantry: Cnut, Basil Robert the Bruce Units - Varangians, Lombard Halberders, Vikings (optional). Archers: El Cid, Timur. Units - Imperial Bow Cavalry, Conquistadors (optional). After obtaining these generals and upgrading these units you will have a clear picture what to do next and what do you need to improve/strengthen. |
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Post by grizz on Dec 5, 2022 16:15:29 GMT
Thanks for that.. I'm trying to figure out what units to upgrade so I can get Richards crown from honor tree thingy.. what advice would you give for for using souls etc ? Should I just upgrade all units even shoot ones to get the points to get Richards unique item? I also picked up Alfred.. and have his unique item.. I could upgrade him and his ranks etc or is it worth saving the resources? Quickest way to get immortality item? It is always preferable to have a clear plan before upgrading units, items, etc. Since you just started the run, you can avoid many mistakes we've made. In my opinion, you should avoid buying generals who don't have personal weapons AND special chapters. Taking this into account you can easily draw your map: Cavalry: Richard (since you already have him ), Alfred, Nevsky, Tzimiskes Units - Templars, Noble Cavalry, Boyars, Clibanarii (optional) Infantry: Cnut, Basil Robert the Bruce Units - Varangians, Lombard Halberders, Vikings (optional). Archers: El Cid, Timur. Units - Imperial Bow Cavalry, Conquistadors (optional). After obtaining these generals and upgrading these units you will have a clear picture what to do next and what do you need to improve/strengthen. Cheers for the info! I am a bit tempted to pick up another IAP.. after Richard which would you suggest? I am conflicted on buying the pass.. does it have a time limit? Resets ? After the campaign.. what is the end game to ew7? I did a few battles territory but I see that some players are like 100k-200k power.. I assume these are not f2p players? Thanks in advance |
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Post by lafluth on Dec 5, 2022 17:19:20 GMT
Am f2p and 130k, still going up |
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Post by stoic on Dec 5, 2022 18:26:00 GMT
It is always preferable to have a clear plan before upgrading units, items, etc. Since you just started the run, you can avoid many mistakes we've made. In my opinion, you should avoid buying generals who don't have personal weapons AND special chapters. Taking this into account you can easily draw your map: Cavalry: Richard (since you already have him ), Alfred, Nevsky, Tzimiskes Units - Templars, Noble Cavalry, Boyars, Clibanarii (optional) Infantry: Cnut, Basil Robert the Bruce Units - Varangians, Lombard Halberders, Vikings (optional). Archers: El Cid, Timur. Units - Imperial Bow Cavalry, Conquistadors (optional). After obtaining these generals and upgrading these units you will have a clear picture what to do next and what do you need to improve/strengthen. Cheers for the info! I am a bit tempted to pick up another IAP.. after Richard which would you suggest? I am conflicted on buying the pass.. does it have a time limit? Resets ? After the campaign.. what is the end game to ew7? I did a few battles territory but I see that some players are like 100k-200k power.. I assume these are not f2p players? Thanks in advance I have 190k power and f2p so it is just a matter of time. As a new player you have a definite disadvantage in Territory and Expedition modes, because most likely you will face players who already played for a while and have upgraded units. No worries though. In Territory mode many experienced players just leave one weak unit in defence to make life easier for new players. Since you can choose your fights, it is advisable early in the game to pick up easy opponents with 10-50 k power. For example, I have only one general in defence with 10 k power. Buying pass is arguably the best investment. You get a couple of really good generals and unlock a bunch of personal weapons in return (not to mention other stuff), and personal weapons are a very significant improvement of a general. It transforms decent generals into good ones, and good generals into excellent ones. Buying the Pass hasn't any time limit, if you bought it - it is yours forever Concerning endgame, I am afraid, we don't have an answer yet. Simply because we don't have a slightest idea what this "endgame" will be look like. ET is well known for updating their games on a regular basis. They continue to release new content for many of their previous games, so we can expect something similar here as well. |
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Post by conkueror on Dec 6, 2022 8:26:43 GMT
Battle pass is your best shot, believe me. Can't go wrong with that.
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Post by jonblend on Dec 6, 2022 16:54:21 GMT
Concerning endgame, I am afraid, we don't have an answer yet. Simply because we don't have a slightest idea what this "endgame" will be look like. ET is well known for updating their games on a regular basis. They continue to release new content for many of their previous games, so we can expect something similar here as well. Even though we don't know about the actual end game there is a way to be optimally prepared for it By completing all campaigns on normal, clearing all epic battles and being able to beat 12..13/15 expedition and (low point) territory battles, we have the maximal output of daily/monthly resources. And by storing "instant use resources" such as gold, medals, mithril, mercenary orders and souls (and unit fragments of unneeded mercenaries) we have the ability to quickly adapt to new situations. But here we need to find a balance between saving for the future and having manageable difficulty in the present.
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. Though their priviledges are the biggest thing about them, some of those are incredibly good and make a huge difference between f2p and p2p players. Also, you'll need PoH (battle pass) for many f2p gens to unlock their full potential. Towards the end-game you'll have to focus on gens whose weapon you have access to. PoH is easily the best in-app-purchase to get if you want to spend any money.
