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Post by shiba on Jul 18, 2023 17:49:03 GMT
Was wondering if anyone would recommend a nation and map that would be the easiest for challenges above 65 pts. I was able to do crusader states with the elguzid dynasty but it was a grind. Anything would help, and I have a good amount of generals as well
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Post by jonblend on Jul 19, 2023 10:09:52 GMT
Was wondering if anyone would recommend a nation and map that would be the easiest for challenges above 65 pts. I was able to do crusader states with the elguzid dynasty but it was a grind. Anything would help, and I have a good amount of generals as well Unless you are heading for titles, then small nations can be surprisingly "easy" since they need to pay very little in terms of bribes and you can gain a lot of resources early by stealing with Guiscard and the calmness crew and by completing the little quests like "upgrade house" etc. This allows you to stay neutral with most countries and only fight 4/5/6 enemies (total, 2 enemy neighbors max) at a time. |
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Post by stoic on Jul 19, 2023 10:34:34 GMT
If you are looking for grinding materials then Austria (75 pts) in 100 years war is arguably the easiest choice. You just need to kill Bohemia and Poland, improve your economy and then bribe all other states. Pretty straightforward. At the beginning you have to choose both diplomatic stance and slider. Justinian will do the rest.
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Post by Louis Gabriel Suchet on Jul 22, 2023 3:43:23 GMT
If you are looking for grinding materials then Austria (75 pts) in 100 years war is arguably the easiest choice. You just need to kill Bohemia and Poland, improve your economy and then bribe all other states. Pretty straightforward. At the beginning you have to choose both diplomatic stance and slider. Justinian will do the rest. I'm assuming you just need the "Lobbyist" skill, so if I have a gen like Charles VII I can use him and just equip the gems to get the skill and that should work for the Austria run? |
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Post by stoic on Jul 22, 2023 6:28:25 GMT
If you are looking for grinding materials then Austria (75 pts) in 100 years war is arguably the easiest choice. You just need to kill Bohemia and Poland, improve your economy and then bribe all other states. Pretty straightforward. At the beginning you have to choose both diplomatic stance and slider. Justinian will do the rest. I'm assuming you just need the "Lobbyist" skill, so if I have a gen like Charles VII I can use him and just equip the gems to get the skill and that should work for the Austria run? Yep, that should work. |
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Post by Louis Gabriel Suchet on Jul 24, 2023 4:00:45 GMT
I'm assuming you just need the "Lobbyist" skill, so if I have a gen like Charles VII I can use him and just equip the gems to get the skill and that should work for the Austria run? Yep, that should work. Is there a database compiled of all the easiest countries to play for each conquest map? I know there are a lot of conquest maps now so... |
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Jul 24, 2023 5:25:47 GMT
Is there a database compiled of all the easiest countries to play for each conquest map? I know there are a lot of conquest maps now so... The pinned thread on Conquest is a good reference. Not sure about Challenge Conquests because even unlikely states will befriend each other like the Franks and Salian Franks. |
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Post by stoic on Jul 24, 2023 14:20:24 GMT
Is there a database compiled of all the easiest countries to play for each conquest map? I know there are a lot of conquest maps now so... Because there are so many conquest maps and participants it is rather difficult to create a meaningful index at the moment. There are many hidden gems, I am sure, especially, when we are talking about challenge conquests. I haven't played them all yet... Well, I haven't completed all of them on normal difficulty, to be honest  |
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Post by balthazar on Jul 24, 2023 16:15:33 GMT
I think first you should focus on which resources you want/need. Barbarian invasion is the easiest/quickest because of the map size and number enemies within. But challenges there dont give you armor pieces or gunpowder as far as i am aware. So if you are looking for chain armor Austria is the pick as everyone said in 100 yw. For other materials that changes. But if you are not looking for materials id say Barbarian invasion Ostrogoths is the quickest. You enemy WRE and Huns only if you bribe everyone (which you can because the resource quests are very easy to achieve) and turns are quite fast compare to other maps. I become enemies with Alans, burgundy and franks while awaiting Huns and when Huns show up 80 point challenge finishes on turns 20-21. I use a fully upgraded counsel, The rest is easy.
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Post by Nobunaga Oda on Jul 24, 2023 17:44:20 GMT
I think first you should focus on which resources you want/need. Barbarian invasion is the easiest/quickest because of the map size and number enemies within. But challenges there dont give you armor pieces or gunpowder as far as i am aware. So if you are looking for chain armor Austria is the pick as everyone said in 100 yw. For other materials that changes. But if you are not looking for materials id say Barbarian invasion Ostrogoths is the quickest. You enemy WRE and Huns only if you bribe everyone (which you can because the resource quests are very easy to achieve) and turns are quite fast compare to other maps. I become enemies with Alans, burgundy and franks while awaiting Huns and when Huns show up 80 point challenge finishes on turns 20-21. I use a fully upgraded counsel, The rest is easy. Bribe everyone and only two to three enemies? You're talking about farming HOC points, right? |
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Post by balthazar on Jul 24, 2023 19:29:56 GMT
Yeah if not aiming for the upgrade resources like chain and plate armor, i find ostrogoths the best option to farm. Mercenary orders and Raid tickets are the most important rewards I gather from this farm.
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Post by Louis Gabriel Suchet on Jul 24, 2023 23:37:08 GMT
Yeah if not aiming for the upgrade resources like chain and plate armor, i find ostrogoths the best option to farm. Mercenary orders and Raid tickets are the most important rewards I gather from this farm. Ahhh I see, thank you that's good to know!! I think the Byzantine Empire (Crusader States conquest) is the easiest for farming HOC points... I can complete it with Charles VII as consul in around 15 turns, if there is a faster one please let me know |
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Post by Louis Gabriel Suchet on Jul 24, 2023 23:38:42 GMT
Is there a database compiled of all the easiest countries to play for each conquest map? I know there are a lot of conquest maps now so... Because there are so many conquest maps and participants it is rather difficult to create a meaningful index at the moment. There are many hidden gems, I am sure, especially, when we are talking about challenge conquests. I haven't played them all yet... Well, I haven't completed all of them on normal difficulty, to be honest Ahhh yes, do you have any recommendations for challenge difficulty (like what are the easiest countries/maps to play just in general, not caring about the rewards)? |
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Post by stoic on Jul 25, 2023 8:39:08 GMT
Because there are so many conquest maps and participants it is rather difficult to create a meaningful index at the moment. There are many hidden gems, I am sure, especially, when we are talking about challenge conquests. I haven't played them all yet... Well, I haven't completed all of them on normal difficulty, to be honest Ahhh yes, do you have any recommendations for challenge difficulty (like what are the easiest countries/maps to play just in general, not caring about the rewards)? Just try to analyze the starting conditions of each country... A rule of thumb is that the more allies it has the better. And try always to use diplomacy. Since your enemies will spam units on a gigantic scale it does really matter how many enemies you have. It is possible to overcome this difficulty eventually but in terms of time spent on the conquest there is a huge difference. Therefore countries who have different diplomatic bonuses (such as improvement of relations with neutral states, or a positive diplomatic slider each turn etc) in the national tech tree are usually easier to manage the those who don't have such bonuses. |
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Post by nikomachos on Jul 25, 2023 13:21:33 GMT
Because there are so many conquest maps and participants it is rather difficult to create a meaningful index at the moment. There are many hidden gems, I am sure, especially, when we are talking about challenge conquests. I haven't played them all yet... Well, I haven't completed all of them on normal difficulty, to be honest Ahhh yes, do you have any recommendations for challenge difficulty (like what are the easiest countries/maps to play just in general, not caring about the rewards)? the game already offers you up a halfway decent ranking when you click on the nation, easy, normal, hard. Its certainly not perfect and challenges can make some be less accurate but "in general" its perfect for a first assessment in combination with watching the first 5 turns unfold. |
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